The SN mindfuck

[Dosentmatter903]

So I just read a thread on here talking about how SN is not a humane way to die. My first thought was "great I just ordered some and the aquarium test". I read some comments and it seems like every one has their own way of looking at it that has been shaped by something they read or researched. Only problem is MOST OF US ARE NOT EXPERTS BY ANY MEANS. Me my self tbh don't consider myself to be all that intelligent but I understand there are many variables to this. Ex: did you take the right dose, size and weight, preparation, did they keep it down with out vomiting ect. Now I'm just like wtf because the thread went as far as to say some cases took 40 hours with convulsions. Now this is not to say I'm scared or decided against this method I just wish wish was 1 good factual, rational and expert study we can all read an agree on.(I know the pph but even this we can't agree to it as a whole) Maybee something that falls in the middle of all this... some of u may have read that my original plan was cyanide. I immediately decided against it when I found out about SN on here. Idk how hard it is to get but honestly if I'm going to be going through hours of w.e it is that SN causes I may just go with the few minutes of pain the cyanide brings and be done with it. Not to mention I can be drunk off my ass with the cyanide....what to do what to do?

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't think the SN method sounds that horrible especially in comparison to many of the other methods which are riskier and more difficult to go through with, in fact I see those who have access to it as being fortunate. But anyway it's up to you deciding what method, I wish you the best with your plans.

 

[juraviel]

yeah well since i registered on here 2 years ago it certainly doesn't seem like the community has come to an agreement in regards to the actual effectiveness of this method. odds are more likely than not than you'll pass quickly and peacefully if everything is done right. however there are these edge cases of people that either survived or had a pretty miserable death.

if you feel like you can put things off, and are able to save some money, then an N source is bound to surface up sooner or later. It's still the best way in my opinion.

 

[Little_Suzy]

Looking at pictures and reading autopsy reports is the only way to grasp SN. These two are truthful!

 

[Dosentmatter903]

Any links?
N would be ideal but how much money and time we talking about?

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

After being here since almost the beginning of SS, this is just my opinion on what I have seen.
It is the best or cheaper option or was until the prolifers ruined it.
No option is 100% guaranteed. I think most of the SN failures were due to being found to soon,or someone changing their mind.
There are also some who probably didn't get the dosage right. And a small few who did throw up.
There are NO studies that I have heard of that test the reliability of SN for suicide. I don't think to there ever will be.
I think far more people have succeeded with it than not. Otherwise it wouldn't be banned.

Again these are just my thoughts.

 

[Vizzy]

Any links?
N would be ideal but how much money and time we talking about?

N is impossible to get and it ain't gonna get better in the future

Did you read that sn post again, op accepted that he did a mistake

 

[Kerrtu]

I have SN and I feel less and less afraid of the pain and/or distress it may cause when I CTB. As long as it works, I won't mind.

I think of painful things I've experienced in my life and figure 30-40 minutes with SN won't come close to a lifetime of hurt.

 

[Vizzy]

So I just read a thread on here talking about how SN is not a humane way to die. My first thought was "great I just ordered some and the aquarium test". I read some comments and it seems like every one has their own way of looking at it that has been shaped by something they read or researched. Only problem is MOST OF US ARE NOT EXPERTS BY ANY MEANS. Me my self tbh don't consider myself to be all that intelligent but I understand there are many variables to this. Ex: did you take the right dose, size and weight, preparation, did they keep it down with out vomiting ect. Now I'm just like wtf because the thread went as far as to say some cases took 40 hours with convulsions. Now this is not to say I'm scared or decided against this method I just wish wish was 1 good factual, rational and expert study we can all read an agree on.(I know the pph but even this we can't agree to it as a whole) Maybee something that falls in the middle of all this... some of u may have read that my original plan was cyanide. I immediately decided against it when I found out about SN on here. Idk how hard it is to get but honestly if I'm going to be going through hours of w.e it is that SN causes I may just go with the few minutes of pain the cyanide brings and be done with it. Not to mention I can be drunk off my ass with the cyanide....what to do what to do?

Comparing sn to cyanide is crazy

Sn is way better than cyanide, cyanide is one of the horrible and nasty way to die, don't do it

As ppeh sn peacefulness is 8/10 which is really good, for cyanide peacefulness will be zero, I don't know what made you to compare sn with cyanide

 

[OceanBlue]

I have SN and I feel less and less afraid of the pain and/or distress it may cause when I CTB. As long as it works, I won't mind.

I think of painful things I've experienced in my life and figure 30-40 minutes with SN won't come close to a lifetime of hurt.

Same, except have some purity doubts. Otherwise, drinking something is so much easier than drowning/jumping and does not have the horror movie aesthetic like hanging.

I'm conditioning myself to look at it like a dare, a "drink me" bottle.

 

[Dosentmatter903]

Not comparing then at all, the point I wanted to make was that If I'm going to prolong the process I might as well take the pain wich is short lived and just get it over with

 

[juraviel]

N is impossible to get and it ain't gonna get better in the future

Did you read that sn post again, op accepted that he did a mistake

now why would you say that. as far as i know, n is just as readily available in latin america as it always was. it may be getting harder to get it shipped. but it's being sold. damn pretty much every vet clinic in the world has is in stock..

 

[Vizzy]

now why would you say that. as far as i know, n is just as readily available in latin america as it always was. it may be getting harder to get it shipped. but it's being sold. damn pretty much every vet clinic in the world has is in stock..

You have no idea, N is not readily available in Latin America

It is available in Latin America but not readily and not every shop will sell it to you, most of the vet clinic don't have N in the world because it is hard to get for them too and they all move on to different methods to euthanize animals

now why would you say that. as far as i know, n is just as readily available in latin america as it always was. it may be getting harder to get it shipped. but it's being sold. damn pretty much every vet clinic in the world has is in stock..

If N is readily available in Latin America, all American will go there to get it but it ain't easy like you think lol

 

[TeflonMummy]

SN will deliver you a 90-95% or higher success rate within 12 - 35 minutes, up to 8 hours according to a particular mega thread. The 40 hour claim was from a personal experience recorded in a Dutch dissertation. I have no English version of the text to confirm the context of the claim, but seeing as it is really rare for the process to take any more than an hour, I think it was likely a dosage issue. Also the toxicology report from the mega thread is actually easily available and readable so I'd probably value it over the Dutch information.

You also aren't stuck to Cyanide or SN, or even N for that matter (if that really is available to you). There are a ton of methods out there, and you most likely will find one that alligns very well with your needs if any of these methods leave too much to be desired.

 

[Unknown21]

It's literally in the pph.

What's "PPH" ?

 

[ReWind]

What's "PPH" ?

Peaceful Pill Handbook

 

[Not.Flugel]

If you spent like 10 minutes of reading here xou will find that most people have no fucking ideas about the basic of chemistry much less pharmacology. It's funny to see some idiot claiming SN is so painful and there source is some random article or better yet word of mouth. We have the pph which observed 20+ deaths, seriously doubt there is a better source than that. Against most fuck ups are humane errors.

 

[freelifexit]

Some SN cases are painful, some cases are discomforting, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

Here you can find description of painful cases and here peaceful and discomforting cases and symptoms.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

I have SN and I feel less and less afraid of the pain and/or distress it may cause when I CTB. As long as it works, I won't mind.

I think of painful things I've experienced in my life and figure 30-40 minutes with SN won't come close to a lifetime of hurt.

I was thinking the same thing. A half hour or even a few hours is nothing compared to a lifetime of misery.

 

[Gonnerr]

A lot of people say things they dont even experienced, most people who survive or made test run with small amount said it was peaceful, i would believe them instead of the mr know it all who didnt try nothing.

I have SN and I feel less and less afraid of the pain and/or distress it may cause when I CTB. As long as it works, I won't mind.

I think of painful things I've experienced in my life and figure 30-40 minutes with SN won't come close to a lifetime of hurt.

You are right , less than 1 hour of pain for freedom from that hellhole , this is a good trade.

People dont like to suffer but for me now i accept it as just something my brain do to protect me but i think i will overcome easily when its time.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

You have no idea, N is not readily available in Latin America

It is available in Latin America but not readily and not every shop will sell it to you, most of the vet clinic don't have N in the world because it is hard to get for them too and they all move on to different methods to euthanize animals

If N is readily available in Latin America, all American will go there to get it but it ain't easy like you think lol

Thank you for this. People seem to think that it is just as simple as driving across the border, stopping at a vets office and driving back. Like just running to Walmart or Piggly Wiggly. #1 you are an American in a foreign country. If you start going to every vet and asking for N, you are going to set off some red flags. By now I'm sure they ALL know what you intend to use it for. If someone was actually getting it for a pet, they could have just taken their pet to a vet in the US.
Also there is a worldwide shortage of N or pentobarbital.
@Vizzy ... Did I miss anything or get anything wrong?

A lot of people say things they dont even experienced, most people who survive or made test run with small amount said it was peaceful, i would believe them instead of the mr know it all who didnt try nothing.

You are right , less than 1 hour of pain for freedom from that hellhole , this is a good trade.

People dont like to suffer but for me now i accept it as just something my brain do to protect me but i think i will overcome easily when its time.

There have been a few here that blacked out within minutes, possibly a little longer.

 

[Vizzy]

Thank you for this. People seem to think that it is just as simple as driving across the border, stopping at a vets office and driving back. Like just running to Walmart or Piggly Wiggly. #1 you are an American in a foreign country. If you start going to every vet and asking for N, you are going to set off some red flags. By now I'm sure they ALL know what you intend to use it for. If someone was actually getting it for a pet, they could have just taken their pet to a vet in the US.
Also there is a worldwide shortage of N or pentobarbital.
@Vizzy ... Did I miss anything or get anything wrong?

There have been a few here that blacked out within minutes, possibly a little longer.

You are right and I second that

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Some SN cases are painful, some cases are discomforting, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

Here you can find description of painful cases and here peaceful and discomforting cases and symptoms.

I didn't check it out yet but I'm aware there are some that will have different reactions. It is or was the most reliable method other than N.

You are right and I second that

Thank you.
I understand that people are desperately trying to leave this horrible world but it's not that easy. Especially now that prolifers caught on.

 

[Vizzy]

I didn't check it out yet but I'm aware there are some that will have different reactions. It is or was the most reliable method other than N.

I don't think this person read it because I don't see anyone mentioned pain in those reports

Even the people who failed reported that they felt like vomiting, nausea, headache, stomach pain and diarrhea which I don't think painful, uncomfortable yes, most important thing is people who failed sn method said they will try sn again for ctb which strongly suggests sn ain't that bad

Everyone react differently this claim is wrong, most of them had the same symptoms, very little had different but everyone where unconscious which is the most important part

 

[absolomonisgone]

Some SN cases are painful, some cases are discomforting, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

Here you can find description of painful cases and here peaceful and discomforting cases and symptoms.

idiot.

 

[William01]

I don't think this person read it because I don't see anyone mentioned pain in those reports

Even the people who failed reported that they felt like vomiting, nausea, headache, stomach pain and diarrhea which I don't think painful, uncomfortable yes, most important thing is people who failed sn method said they will try sn again for ctb which strongly suggests sn ain't that bad

Everyone react differently this claim is wrong, most of them had the same symptoms, very little had different but everyone where unconscious which is the most important part

What about the anti diarrhea tablets. Mist include that in my kit!

 

[Kerrtu]

Comparing sn to cyanide is crazy

Sn is way better than cyanide, cyanide is one of the horrible and nasty way to die, don't do it

As ppeh sn peacefulness is 8/10 which is really good, for cyanide peacefulness will be zero, I don't know what made you to compare sn with cyanide

I don't think this person read it because I don't see anyone mentioned pain in those reports

Even the people who failed reported that they felt like vomiting, nausea, headache, stomach pain and diarrhea which I don't think painful, uncomfortable yes, most important thing is people who failed sn method said they will try sn again for ctb which strongly suggests sn ain't that bad

Everyone react differently this claim is wrong, most of them had the same symptoms, very little had different but everyone where unconscious which is the most important part

Re: SN - I'm thinking of Moonicide

Re: Cyanide vs SN - from what I've seen with cyanide consumption, it works quickly and sounds brutal - the sounds emitted from the person consuming are hard to forget. Very much like grunting combined with high pitched whinnies and mouth foam.

There are a few cyanide clips on YouTube though they've been either edited over the years to mask the sounds or removed completely. The Michael Marin case comes to mind. Shows how quick it works for anyone interested.

I'm sticking with SN.

 

[Vizzy]

Re: SN - I'm thinking of Moonicide

Re: Cyanide vs SN - from what I've seen with cyanide consumption, it works quickly and sounds brutal - the sounds emitted from the person who consuming are hard to forget. Very much like grunting combined with high pitched whinnies and mouth foam.

There are a few cyanide clips on YouTube though they've been either edited over the years to mask the sounds or removed completely. The Michael Marin case comes to mind. Shows how quick it works for anyone interested.

I'm sticking with SN.

If anyone wanna do cyanide

I would say do cyanide the way hitler did, Hitler took the cyanide and shot himself in the head!

 

[Kerrtu]

If anyone wanna do cyanide

I would say do cyanide the way hitler did, Hitler took the cyanide and shot himself in the head!

I imagine he took it, realized how horrific it was, then decided to expedite. I've read accounts of people chewing the capsules before swallowing - seems it would feel like a blowtorch down the throat.

Hitler thinking damn, cyanide is no joke…ok, fuck this, where's the pistol?

 

[freelifexit]

I don't think this person read it because I don't see anyone mentioned pain in those reports

Here is one of reports from link with painful cases:
"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in In my life so much vomiting and pain"

Also there are cases which can't breathe, which is not peaceful.

Everyone react differently this claim is wrong, most of them had the same symptoms

You can read this post with symptoms with percentage of chances for each symptom and find out that there are different symptoms for everyone. Also in this compilation of failed cases for some people it was totally peaceful while for some people it was discomforting, which means people react differently. Also there is Russian article about SN poisoning consequences (first two paragraphs on page 6) which claims that "The clinical picture of poisoning is highly variable."

idiot.

By insulting someone instead of arguments, you just showing your low intelligence.