So, SN isn’t painless

[Sunbeam87!]

I have received my SN. I read the PPH and trawled this site for the right method. During this, I felt elated; I was so calm and happy, because I thought I finally had a way out, I thought I would find peace. I had measured the amount of water needed and made sure to have two cups ready just in case. I had the antacids and anti-emitics and I was so looking forward to my final sleep. I thought I would just slip away quietly. I arranged my bedroom, because I wanted to die in a comfortable and comforting place and had chosen my favourite music to see me through to the other side.

Then I read through the SN threads on this site and found that many people who have chosen this method experience extreme discomfort if not pain. I felt so, so disappointed. I panicked; I actually had a panic attack (like many here, I have both anxiety and depression). There is no exit that isn't terrifying or painful, unless you approach an operation like Dignitas in Switzerland. I had already looked into that. Not one of the three psychiatrists I spoke to would complete the necessary paperwork. Besides, I live in a third-world country, so my savings and salary definitely are not going to get me to Switzerland for extended assessments and arrangements. We have nothing like Dignitas in my country; we are a very religious and superstitious lot. I often think that if there were a living god, he would let me die, he would let me leave my world of pain.

So, what do I do? I want to get out. Are there any non-traumatic methods available to those who can't access Nembutal and such?

I have thought about killing myself with a gunshot to the head. Actually, it is my preferred method (high success rate and quick), however my country has very strict gun laws and regulations. If you have been treated for any mental illness, you will not be issued a gun licence.

I need to get out. I stopped living long ago, so please god, if you exist, help me.

Thanks for reading.

 

[MovingOn]

Shooting yourself in the head can also be painful, and can also fail and be extremely painful for a long time. I'm taking SN. People recommend all kind of pain killers with SN. From the threads I've read, no one who took it reported pain, just their heart racing. But they probably did take something else with SN to kill the pain, etc.

 

[gimzero]

We hope so.

 

[TydalWave]

There is a lot of misinformation our there, first of all. There are a tremendous ammount of cases of SN, and particularly the ones that were followed by Stan's Guide or PPH have been remarkably painless, for what we know.

There are always outliers. There are always people who take SN in acts of desperation and not in accordance to recommended doses, or without other particularly beneficial medications. But in the grand scheme of things it is a particularly safe and painless way to go.

Especially if you take the time to research it, prepare for it and obtain antiemetics, and benzos to make the experience and SI more tolerable..

 

[freelifexit]

From the threads I've read, no one who took it reported pain, just their heart racing.

Some cases are painful, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

In this document where failed attempts collected most cases are relatively painless and some of them really discomforting (tachycardia, headache, one case of blindness that recovered and one case couldn't move or talk). Recommend you to read this.

Here is the worst cases from forum members:

Post in thread 'I've tried SN & it's not for me. Been researching. First post btw!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...researching-first-post-btw.96193/post-1681369

"Excruciating headache, vomiting, felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest - like my pulse from my neck felt like it was gonna burst. Not peaceful at all. Not how they say. I also couldn't walk & needed help."

Thread 'Snorting sn'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/snorting-sn.86951/

"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in
In my life so much vomiting and pain if I snort it instead will it go straight into my blood stream I can't go through that pain again when it didn't even work"

Thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/

"Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank - after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking.

Chat room: 25g, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing,

Kukubananas : cannot breathe

timetogo:, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe."

Post in thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/post-1383070

"So I went to bed thinking I would fall asleep and ctb but instead I went through 4 hours of hell like suffocating. I didn't throw up at all a bit nauseous was all. I took 1000 mg naproxen before but at the end I got the worst headache of my life."

Post in thread 'Sources and scam megathread'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sources-and-scam-megathread.94434/post-1728298

"Our friend passed away last week with SN. He suffered terribly and had a terrible death struggle even though he followed the guide."

It is obvious that following a regime (pills) does not guarantee a peaceful death, but somehow this is a common misconception.

 

[MovingOn]

Thank you for all the info!

 

[FuneralCry]

At least to me SN doesn't sound that horrible. Of course nothing will be as ideal N to me but SN certainly sounds preferable to many of the other methods, like jumping and in particular hanging which can be risky. SN might be uncomfortable, but an uncomfortable dying process would be nothing compared to the suffering that existing continues to bring, at least for me. So many have died from it after all, so it is a reliable method. I do believe that in this world, unfortunately it's rare for someone to pass away peacefully, we all do deserve the option of going to an euthanasia clinic and it's sad how we live in a world that makes planning to die such a struggle for us. But anyway I hope that you find the freedom that you wish for.

 

[GasMonkey]

There is no exit that isn't terrifying or painful, unless you approach an operation like Dignitas in Switzerland.

False.

Are there any non-traumatic methods available to those who can't access Nembutal and such?

N₂ SCBA / PP SCUBA are on par with N (in my opinion they are even better than ingested N since they are much faster than it). Setup is expensive tho (N wasn't cheap either when it was available, I paid $600+ for 25gr of powdered N in 2016).

 

[Life_and_Death]

I question how many reports are fake and also how many symptoms were self induced. If you're panicking you're going to have a raised heart rate anyway and that has nothing to do with the method.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Meh. I was resigned to jumping off a cliff before I learned about SN. I might be speaking prematurely but even reading the worst reports I know I've already been through worse (on this day many years ago in fact). And even if it's not comfortable if you can endure you'll never have to feel pain again.

 

[releasespieces]

These are exactly the types of UNEDUCATED posts that try to put people off of SN. This makes me question what type of agenda the OP has on here. Anyone who does even the slightest bit of research will find a varied mix of experiences. Not impressed.

 

[Sunbeam87!]

These are exactly the types of UNEDUCATED posts that try to put people off of SN. This makes me question what type of agenda the OP has on here. Anyone who does even the slightest bit of research will find a varied mix of experiences. Not impressed.

Hi there. I didn't mean to offend. All I want is a painless way to go. I honestly thought SN was it and I am so upset that a painless death is not guaranteed. I want to leave, but I am a coward.

False.


N₂ SCBA / PP SCUBA are on par with N (in my opinion they are even better than ingested N since they are much faster than it). Setup is expensive tho (N wasn't cheap either when it was available, I paid $600+ for 25gr of powdered N in 2016).

I don't know what those are - will look them up. How can you get them?

 

[Mofreeko]

 

[Cantbereal]

Some cases are painful, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

In this document where failed attempts collected most cases are relatively painless and some of them really discomforting (tachycardia, headache, one case of blindness that recovered and one case couldn't move or talk). Recommend you to read this.

Here is the worst cases from forum members:

Post in thread 'I've tried SN & it's not for me. Been researching. First post btw!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...researching-first-post-btw.96193/post-1681369

"Excruciating headache, vomiting, felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest - like my pulse from my neck felt like it was gonna burst. Not peaceful at all. Not how they say. I also couldn't walk & needed help."

Thread 'Snorting sn'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/snorting-sn.86951/

"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in
In my life so much vomiting and pain if I snort it instead will it go straight into my blood stream I can't go through that pain again when it didn't even work"

Thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/

"Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank - after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking.

Chat room: 25g, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing,

Kukubananas : cannot breathe

timetogo:, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe."

Post in thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/post-1383070

"So I went to bed thinking I would fall asleep and ctb but instead I went through 4 hours of hell like suffocating. I didn't throw up at all a bit nauseous was all. I took 1000 mg naproxen before but at the end I got the worst headache of my life."

Post in thread 'Sources and scam megathread'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sources-and-scam-megathread.94434/post-1728298

"Our friend passed away last week with SN. He suffered terribly and had a terrible death struggle even though he followed the guide."

It is obvious that following a regime (pills) does not guarantee a peaceful death, but somehow this is a common misconception.

Omg

 

[releasespieces]

Omg

None of this is controlled. We have no idea what these people took. We have no idea what their health or pain threshold was. Some people take Sodium NITRATE when they think they are taking nitrite. It would only be fair if you read the painless experiences as well. This is only one side of the population and potentially, if not likely, inaccurate account of what it would be like for an individual.

 

[Cantbereal]

I have. It's all overwhelming

 

[👁️👃👁️]

Constipation can be painful also.

 

[Looking4Answers2]

Some cases are painful, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

In this document where failed attempts collected most cases are relatively painless and some of them really discomforting (tachycardia, headache, one case of blindness that recovered and one case couldn't move or talk). Recommend you to read this.

Here is the worst cases from forum members:

Post in thread 'I've tried SN & it's not for me. Been researching. First post btw!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...researching-first-post-btw.96193/post-1681369

"Excruciating headache, vomiting, felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest - like my pulse from my neck felt like it was gonna burst. Not peaceful at all. Not how they say. I also couldn't walk & needed help."

Thread 'Snorting sn'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/snorting-sn.86951/

"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in
In my life so much vomiting and pain if I snort it instead will it go straight into my blood stream I can't go through that pain again when it didn't even work"

Thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/

"Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank - after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking.

Chat room: 25g, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing,

Kukubananas : cannot breathe

timetogo:, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe."

Post in thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/post-1383070

"So I went to bed thinking I would fall asleep and ctb but instead I went through 4 hours of hell like suffocating. I didn't throw up at all a bit nauseous was all. I took 1000 mg naproxen before but at the end I got the worst headache of my life."

Post in thread 'Sources and scam megathread'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sources-and-scam-megathread.94434/post-1728298

"Our friend passed away last week with SN. He suffered terribly and had a terrible death struggle even though he followed the guide."

It is obvious that following a regime (pills) does not guarantee a peaceful death, but somehow this is a common misconception.

None of those are what I would call painful. Discomfort yes.

When I think pain I think hanging, drowning, cutting...

 

[vexxed]

These are exactly the types of UNEDUCATED posts that try to put people off of SN. This makes me question what type of agenda the OP has on here. Anyone who does even the slightest bit of research will find a varied mix of experiences. Not impressed.

This was unnecessarily rude. Nothing in ops post indicates they are acting in bad faith

 

[reverse03]

Hijacking this thread. Question about mixed SN.

I mixed sn this afternoon probably 6hours ago before my post. Is it still effective if I will take it tomorrow night, more than 24 hours after mixing with water? Please anyone answer.

 

[TydalWave]

Hijacking this thread. Question about mixed SN.

I mixed sn this afternoon probably 6hours ago before my post. Is it still effective if I will take it tomorrow night, more than 24 hours after mixing with water? Please anyone answer.

Do you not have any more SN to mix a clean solution? I don't have any data that I can find regarding the loss of efficacy but I would imagine that it would definitely lose some efficacy just as SN naturally reacts to oxygen in the air. Leaving it out in a H20 solution would to some degree have a similar affect. I just don't know how much or if it would still be effective. If possible make a new batch.

 

[Zegers]

What you are relating in the first part is N, which is not available now. SN has adverse effects such as nausea, puking, discomfort, but you have to understand that no method (except perhaps N and a shot in the head) is totally peaceful. SN is relatively peaceful for me but more importantly, it is effective.

 

[releasespieces]

This was unnecessarily rude. Nothing in ops post indicates they are acting in bad faith

There have been prolifers on here pushing an agenda to turn people off of SN. My point is that it's not a balanced approach demonstrating the truth about SN experiences. It did come off defensive, but it's for good reason. I've been off and on SS for 3 years and I've witnessed all sorts of crazy stuff. Rude? I don't think so.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

I have received my SN. I read the PPH and trawled this site for the right method. During this, I felt elated; I was so calm and happy, because I thought I finally had a way out, I thought I would find peace. I had measured the amount of water needed and made sure to have two cups ready just in case. I had the antacids and anti-emitics and I was so looking forward to my final sleep. I thought I would just slip away quietly. I arranged my bedroom, because I wanted to die in a comfortable and comforting place and had chosen my favourite music to see me through to the other side.

Then I read through the SN threads on this site and found that many people who have chosen this method experience extreme discomfort if not pain. I felt so, so disappointed. I panicked; I actually had a panic attack (like many here, I have both anxiety and depression). There is no exit that isn't terrifying or painful, unless you approach an operation like Dignitas in Switzerland. I had already looked into that. Not one of the three psychiatrists I spoke to would complete the necessary paperwork. Besides, I live in a third-world country, so my savings and salary definitely are not going to get me to Switzerland for extended assessments and arrangements. We have nothing like Dignitas in my country; we are a very religious and superstitious lot. I often think that if there were a living god, he would let me die, he would let me leave my world of pain.

So, what do I do? I want to get out. Are there any non-traumatic methods available to those who can't access Nembutal and such?

I have thought about killing myself with a gunshot to the head. Actually, it is my preferred method (high success rate and quick), however my country has very strict gun laws and regulations. If you have been treated for any mental illness, you will not be issued a gun licence.

I need to get out. I stopped living long ago, so please god, if you exist, help me.

Thanks for reading.

I don't think there is any completely peaceful method but it's definitely more peaceful than almost everything else other than N.

There have been prolifers on here pushing an agenda to turn people off of SN. My point is that it's not a balanced approach demonstrating the truth about SN experiences. It did come off defensive, but it's for good reason. I've been off and on SS for 3 years and I've witnessed all sorts of crazy stuff. Rude? I don't think so.

I totally agree with you. Misinformation is everywhere. Most of it is from the prolifers. Also your point in a previous post about peoples methods, and if it was done correctly. I've been here over 4 years and have also seen some crazy sh!t. There were some that seemed to drift off peacefully.
Some that experience the heart racing and or palpitations.
Some are found too soon. Some even have changed their mind and call for help.
Some I do believe are made up to scare us. We will never really know about most of them.
I understand your defensiveness, we don't know who is asking questions but I think this one is sincere.
Sometimes I just want to shout in all caps "There is no completely peaceful method" but I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Not everyone has been here as long as we have. I can't believe I'm still here to be honest.

 

[UtopianElephant]

I have received my SN. I read the PPH and trawled this site for the right method. During this, I felt elated; I was so calm and happy, because I thought I finally had a way out, I thought I would find peace. I had measured the amount of water needed and made sure to have two cups ready just in case. I had the antacids and anti-emitics and I was so looking forward to my final sleep. I thought I would just slip away quietly. I arranged my bedroom, because I wanted to die in a comfortable and comforting place and had chosen my favourite music to see me through to the other side.

Then I read through the SN threads on this site and found that many people who have chosen this method experience extreme discomfort if not pain. I felt so, so disappointed. I panicked; I actually had a panic attack (like many here, I have both anxiety and depression). There is no exit that isn't terrifying or painful, unless you approach an operation like Dignitas in Switzerland. I had already looked into that. Not one of the three psychiatrists I spoke to would complete the necessary paperwork. Besides, I live in a third-world country, so my savings and salary definitely are not going to get me to Switzerland for extended assessments and arrangements. We have nothing like Dignitas in my country; we are a very religious and superstitious lot. I often think that if there were a living god, he would let me die, he would let me leave my world of pain.

So, what do I do? I want to get out. Are there any non-traumatic methods available to those who can't access Nembutal and such?

I have thought about killing myself with a gunshot to the head. Actually, it is my preferred method (high success rate and quick), however my country has very strict gun laws and regulations. If you have been treated for any mental illness, you will not be issued a gun licence.

I need to get out. I stopped living long ago, so please god, if you exist, help me.

Thanks for reading.

"Actually, it is my preferred method (high success rate and quick), however my country has"

Would it be not too difficult to obtain a long gun (shotgun or rifle) on the streets in your country? They are usually easier to obtain than handguns in most countries that allow firearms in some capacity. You mention you are in a 3rd world country, so maybe bribes can work on some people. Is it possible to pay someone to borrow their firearm? But having a long gun and placing it properly against the head is an almost guaranteed painless and instant death. But please be careful if you decide to go about obtaining a weapon this way.

 

[reverse03]

Do you not have any more SN to mix a clean solution? I don't have any data that I can find regarding the loss of efficacy but I would imagine that it would definitely lose some efficacy just as SN naturally reacts to oxygen in the air. Leaving it out in a H20 solution would to some degree have a similar affect. I just don't know how much or if it would still be effective. If possible make a new batch.

I have no more SN. I mixed it inside a water bottle so I hope it is still effective.

 

[Someone123]

Siemtimes SN is painless or close to it, sometimes it is very painful, it depends on how much of the protocol you do and also it seems to depend on luck quite a bit.

 

[releasespieces]

I don't think there is any completely peaceful method but it's definitely more peaceful than almost everything else other than N.

I totally agree with you. Misinformation is everywhere. Most of it is from the prolifers. Also your point in a previous post about peoples methods, and if it was done correctly. I've been here over 4 years and have also seen some crazy sh!t. There were some that seemed to drift off peacefully.
Some that experience the heart racing and or palpitations.
Some are found too soon. Some even have changed their mind and call for help.
Some I do believe are made up to scare us. We will never really know about most of them.
I understand your defensiveness, we don't know who is asking questions but I think this one is sincere.
Sometimes I just want to shout in all caps "There is no completely peaceful method" but I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Not everyone has been here as long as we have. I can't believe I'm still here to be honest.

I don't know about you, but I've been lingering around to be certain about my method, the painlessness and it's efficacy. Over time people should get it figured out and I'm hopeful I won't have to be the guinea pig that screws something up. I'm a big baby who wants to die and feels no pain in the process.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Not like natural deaths are generally all that painless. Think of the millions of people who died a suffocating death from Covid. it seems to me that unless you pass suddenly in your sleep or are killed instantaneously without seeing it coming (like someone sniping you in the head) all deaths involve some degree of suffering, whether physical or mental.

 

[DejectedRealtor]

Siemtimes SN is painless or close to it, sometimes it is very painful, it depends on how much of the protocol you do and also it seems to depend on luck quite a bit.

'Luck' being your physical makeup or choosing the right instructions or something?