Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[midinat]

I can't make it work, despite trying many times with variations. All I get is a pulsating feeling in my head and feeling as if my head is going to explode, but not the peaceful and quick thing described at all

 

[Vegan Antinatalist]

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Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

I just think its absolutely beautiful that you would share this and help people. Thank you <3

 

[masterboy]

Are you sure that method is painless?

Have anyone tried this method and successfully ctb?

If someone has tried successfully then no one is here to reply you saying yes Bro I did it . Try cutting your wrist. It will be ok

 

[Excentricqueer]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

I don't exactly understand 'put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck' and showed the carotid arteries and how do I put the sackhole bag on my neck and wrap the tree rachet around my neck to kill myself

 

[jwordz]

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I have a great demonstration of this method if anyone wants it. Helped me to the point of almost making it.

could you dm me about that?

I tried it to , you need to find the correct spot first , I instantly felt dizzy after pressing my arteries.

Its easy to find your sweet spot and you can also experiment by pressing it with mere fingers you will instantly feel dizy , look for a heartbeat above Adam apple , keep trying , not on windpipe but beside it.

this was helpful
ok so itll leave the windpipe open. good. when you fuya practice with hands, can you swallow wirhiur any problems?

i feel arpujs but where i press makes mw not be able ro swallow without pain so i usually stop pretry quick.

and yeah, other than that 1 streamer, has anyone elae ever succeeded with this that anyone knows of?

Yep! When you're out, you're out. If there is nobody there to undo the ratchet or the tape when you're out and it wasn't too loose, then it will continue to cut off the blood and you'll be gone.

The only thing I could think of that might happen is maybe if you were standing and you smashed your head when you hit the ground. Might cause something to happen with the nervous system where your body flails for a second or the arms come up. This is called the "Fencing Pose".

That's one reason I encouraged people to just sit down. That way you won't have any fear of hitting a thing and possibly loosening the strap or tape. Have a lazy boy? Hell, kick the leg rest up and recline it.

what about rhat dude who streamed it? Did he do it wrong? because he was all over the place, even though he obvs passed out pretty quick.
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If you watch the vids you will see that you very quickly slip out of conscienceness. You will only flail if your fighting it in the beginning. I'll be using a couple a t-shirts with a strap, kooz has said that this will work fine.

ow me what the shirts look like??

 

[jwordz]

I looked on the first page of posts briefly and combined with what @Kooz said I managed to do it. It was something @Prime said on the first page.

It was something like sitting down and with your hand (either left or right) forming a U shape with your thumb and first and second fingers. Then getting them and finding a pulse on both sides of the windpipe then pressing straight in.

I tried to squeeze the arteries together and I couldn't get it. Turns out you just press inwards (so towards you as if your finger will come out in the same spots on the back of your neck) and then you should feel it.

Does that help at all?

finally. thank you
how ro avoid the jugulars??? cornhoke seems like itll preas both in?

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

how wide is a tree ratchet?

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

how wide is a tree ratchet?

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

are rhe atraps on thrse rarchets cms thick, or inches thick?

 

[jwordz]

All of what i said is how I managed to do it. I did it twice and it was slightly different both times but I did press lower on my neck the second time so that differed it a bit.

That experimentation I did would help determine where the beanbags would go. Like from my experiments I think the lower one with the beanbags would work better but I think it differs a bit from person to person

how wide is your ratchet strap or tape? an inch? wider?

 

[HoplessBegins]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Rahhhh 0331. Go big or go back to your room ya know

 

[jwordz]

where did you find this?

The ratchet and bean bags make it similar to being choked out by a arm. Rear naked choke.

I love bean bags because they're thick. I suggest the same size as a bean bag and you can fill it with buckwheat, corn, or beans. The reason I try to avoid having people go for anything softer is that you want to make sure that there is mostly even distribution from the bag and ratchet. You could use tightly wrapped socks or a shirt but then you risk it being too soft if not done properly which could cause the compression to not work as well.

As stated before, imagine what it's like to have the arms around your neck. You're trying to replicate that feeling and stability. Also one reason I suggested to have someone from an MMA center actually apply one on you. Then you'll know exactly what it is supposed to feel like and where the pressure is supposed to be.

Drop in classes are pretty easy to do and either are free or super cheap. State that it's one of the first moves you want to learn and I'm more then certain someone will oblige you.

did that. tirna out their cholke blocks the blood up and down from the brain. unless the guy wasnt skilled enoigh to just do it to the upward trajectory veins?

where did you find this?


did that. tirna out their cholke blocks the blood up and down from the brain. unless the guy wasnt skilled enoigh to just do it to the upward trajectory veins?

is that the bloodflow going up AND down? because arent we meant to only be doing it for the upward movement of blood?

 

[jwordz]

Totally forgot about the choking game! Same idea, but we're doing it longer!

Visual example for all of you <3

neh, keep trying it different ways, but no luck realy

 

[Walilamdzii]

It's hit or miss, I've blocked it a few times and then couldn't do it like the next 5 times. If you really wanna take the risk of feeling like your heads gonna explode (it's really not nice) then go for it. It will take less than a minute to practice and get the feeling you want. But hey, if you wanna go in blind. Go for it.

Why would you go blind?

 

[HoleintheDark]

I've been practicing hitting the carotid arteries with my fingers for the past 5 days now, about 4 hours a day, making an attempt every half hour or so. I was able to do it a total of 17 times with the desired effects (lightheadedness, vision becoming spotty, and no throbbing sensation due to hitting the jugular veins).

I've found it significantly easier to get to the right location by starting at a smaller lump directly below the adam's apple, instead of the adam's apple itself. (I'm not sure if I'm using the right anatomy term here, is it called the thyroid?) From there, I follow the natural curve of the neck in an upward motion, until I feel my pulse. I haven't really noticed a significance in the direction that I press my fingers (towards the back of my throat, inwards to the middle of my neck, etc).

Despite these "successful" attempts, I still fail to make myself pass out in a timely manner. Is this to be expected? As in, is the amount of pressure I can apply with my fingers just not enough?

Either way, my neck is feeling pretty sore now, so I'll wait till the end of this week to start practicing some more. Hopefully I'll be able to learn a lot more this time around.

 

[KevG]

I saw the original diagram of where the arteries are but I am still confused. Are they more on the sides of the neck, toward the front, etc. Is there a better diagram?

From a video I watched on line you will find the artery directly on either side of your Adams apple. Sure enough when I press there I fee a pulse.

 

[thot88]

Have I found the right place when I found the pulse on the neck? I don't feel it as well as I do on my wrist.
But I feel it clearly anyway.

 

[Himalayan]

HE WAS UNCONSCIOUS! Stop making lies in your own head, jesus.

He didnt felt anything. The problem whit this method is this gurgling agonal breath, it sounds like a pig is dying. How do i not alert the whole country? Can someone say if i am exaggerating this

 

[pando12718]

I unfortunately have a short neck...idk who created this universe but whoever it was really just does not want me to CTB. I even found some spots where I could feel pulses, although its always much less of a pulse on the left side. was basically stabbing these parts of my neck with my hands yet nothing happened. also, i've been looking at artery/vein diagrams, it looks like the jugular is literally right next to the carotid, how are people able to not squeeze the jugular along the carotid?

 

[gbi2]

I can't seem to get myself to pass out with polycord, a thin scarf for a bit of comfort, and a wooden spoon, which I thought would work after reading the 5 last acts book. But I've found some pipe foam (like a pool noodle) which just happens to be the right length if I wrap that around the back of my neck and thread the poly cord though it. It makes the pressure comfortable. But then when I twist the cord at the front the cord eventually digs into my neck because the foam doesn't create a big enough gap, and as I swallow it causes the cord to jump below my adams apple (which seems to be really high up on me), so I'm just trying to design a block with a U cut into it to 3D print, thinking if I put those at the side of my neck they will be right for applying pressure and they will give more room at the front of my neck. I'll probably have to secure this to my neck with 'No more nails' won't I? It's 40cm high.

 

[front of me]

It's Like 50K people watched this method there is no one of 50K by chance figure out Easy way to make dead easy ???

 

[Kenni]

Both arteries have to be pressed for it to work, expanding head feeling should be avoided and means you are pressing too hard on the jugular veins (located behind the carotid arteries, they allow blood to flow down from the brain into the body)

Sadly I can't seem to find the arteries, I will find one pulse point but then have to release pressure to try and fine the other. Once I find the other, when I place it down on my original side I can't seem to find the pulse any more!! It's so frustrating as this seems to be a very good method as the other one I looked into was CO2 as a possibility but, it would harder to bring in glass canisters to a university residence than gorilla (duct tape?) And some sort of padded weight. I'm very sorry that I am being extremely dense here and can't even find the pulse points but does anyone have any tips?? I'm overweight and have had trouble with a double chinn but my neck is not overly fat as I have lost a lot of weight recently (aka I do not count as obese)

I can't seem to get myself to pass out with polycord, a thin scarf for a bit of comfort, and a wooden spoon, which I thought would work after reading the 5 last acts book. But I've found some pipe foam (like a pool noodle) which just happens to be the right length if I wrap that around the back of my neck and thread the poly cord though it. It makes the pressure comfortable. But then when I twist the cord at the front the cord eventually digs into my neck because the foam doesn't create a big enough gap, and as I swallow it causes the cord to jump below my adams apple (which seems to be really high up on me), so I'm just trying to design a block with a U cut into it to 3D print, thinking if I put those at the side of my neck they will be right for applying pressure and they will give more room at the front of my neck. I'll probably have to secure this to my neck with 'No more nails' won't I? It's 40cm high.


View attachment 117620

If you were to 3d print something, wouldn't the outcome be too hard and be a discomfort in itself? Or do you have softer filiment / are modelling it to them make yourself

I unfortunately have a short neck...idk who created this universe but whoever it was really just does not want me to CTB. I even found some spots where I could feel pulses, although its always much less of a pulse on the left side. was basically stabbing these parts of my neck with my hands yet nothing happened. also, i've been looking at artery/vein diagrams, it looks like the jugular is literally right next to the carotid, how are people able to not squeeze the jugular along the carotid?

I'm having the same issue with pulse for me! Just opposite sides... It's so frustrating

 

[gbi2]

If you were to 3d print something, wouldn't the outcome be too hard and be a discomfort in itself? Or do you have softer filiment / are modelling it to them make yourself

Yes that is likely so I'd have to make the edges more rounded than in that screenshot (though you can't tell in that the bottom isn't flat, it curves upward), and/or do something like fold up something soft like toilet paper. or cut a cube of packaging foam and place it between neck and object. I considered buying some TPU but I think that would be too squishy

But then even a flattened toilet roll on each side of the neck might just be as viable an option.

 

[SebastianIbanez]

Sorry if it's been mentioned earlier, but what are people recommending as the best way to simulate an arm doing a rnc with household items or things that can be ordered online?

 

[jwordz]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

these arteriea seem pretry deep. Not sire how to get them ousbed in withour choking myself at thr same time.

also, the jugular is milimeters away from rhe vein, so again, i dont know.

 

[jwordz]

found the choke points for myself finall
i rrckon its viable, so long as i get the padding in place.

 

[Sonny77]

I've already had an attempt with a ratchet strap, without a pillow, etc. Unfortunately, I had to stop it after a minute + because I felt like my head was about to burst and I just couldn't faint. This method inspired me to try it again out of interest.

I didn't really find the "sweet spot". From some tips here in the thread I had an idea that worked very quickly for me to become unconscious and not cut off the trachea. I would like to share this with you:

1. If you faint, sit on a bed or somewhere you will fall gently. Tilt your head back.

2. Put both hands around your neck: forefingers and the rest grab your neck! Both thumbs above or at the Adam's apple NEXT to the trachea. Left thumb on the left side of your neck, right thumb on your right.

Use the following image as a guide (already posted):



3. Now pinch your thumbs and fingers together as if you want to touch them. So NOT in the direction of the trachea, but thumbs in the direction of the neck and fingers in the direction of the side of the face.

If you have the right spot, within 5 seconds you will feel a tingling sensation, a decrease in vision, an increase in heart rate, etc.

If you don't feel it, just test 1 cm further out, up etc. You should have the right spot within a few minutes.

Then you have found your knock out point.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Hi
Thanks for this thread.
I don't have cornhole bags, so I'll probably use socks, I just want to understand better the location of the padding - is this good? Should it be wider and cover more area or thinner?

(Blank template in case anybody wants to draw on this)

This seems to me to be the most adequate placement for the cornhole bags before using the ratchet strap or just hand tightening it if practicing.

 

[StellaSomnus]

I just got the ratchet straps and waiting for the cornbags to arrive.

I'm new to ratchet straps so I'm afraid I might accidentally CTB on my test, as I found the releasing method to be a bit more difficult than I thought.

Is there a way to practice for the cornbag placements? Should I get tourniquet for that?

I'm reading on page 23 atm, but I'm excited to test this out though I still need to square a lot of things before i ctb

 

[puffnstuff]

After practicing several times with cornhole bags, I think I am going to fill two socks with rice and use that. I find the corrnhole bags hard to deal with. The corn is always falling down to the bottom of the bag. If I stuff the socks with rice, I shouldn't have that issue.

 

[snowman626]

I've already had an attempt with a ratchet strap, without a pillow, etc. Unfortunately, I had to stop it after a minute + because I felt like my head was about to burst and I just couldn't faint. This method inspired me to try it again out of interest.

I didn't really find the "sweet spot". From some tips here in the thread I had an idea that worked very quickly for me to become unconscious and not cut off the trachea. I would like to share this with you:

1. If you faint, sit on a bed or somewhere you will fall gently. Tilt your head back.

2. Put both hands around your neck: forefingers and the rest grab your neck! Both thumbs above or at the Adam's apple NEXT to the trachea. Left thumb on the left side of your neck, right thumb on your right.

Use the following image as a guide (already posted):

View attachment 119331

3. Now pinch your thumbs and fingers together as if you want to touch them. So NOT in the direction of the trachea, but thumbs in the direction of the neck and fingers in the direction of the side of the face.

If you have the right spot, within 5 seconds you will feel a tingling sensation, a decrease in vision, an increase in heart rate, etc.

If you don't feel it, just test 1 cm further out, up etc. You should have the right spot within a few minutes.

Then you have found your knock out point.

the one key point that made all the difference for me was tilting my head slightly back. thank you for your tip

 

[Sonny77]

the one key point that made all the difference for me was tilting my head slightly back. thank you for your tip

You are welcome

 

[Orbitc]

Exactly! The rear naked choke is the same as the blood choke. Just different names. The reason we differentiated the two in the military was you either do a "Blood Choke" or an "Air Choke."

Blood Choke - The enemy is awake for at max 10 seconds.
Air Choke - The enemy is awake for a while. You're not able to cut off enough air fast enough, so you're just slowly choking them over time.

The big thing I want to point out that they pointed out in the Marine Corps video, you want to have your Elbow basically under their chin or pointing right at their elbow. Why is this important to remember?

Because in our use, we want to make sure that we have equal pressure going to both arteries so that we can make sure that there is no blood going to the brain. That's why we're using the ratchet or the tape on top of the padding. We're forming basically two arms that are going around our neck to execute a rear naked choke/blood choke against ourselves.

So the idea of looking at the MMA videos or any videos of rear naked chokes is a perfect idea because the idea is the same. Hell, even look at videos where people failed to lock one in because they did it incorrectly to their opponent.

Also, keep in mind that everyone has a different size neck, so you're going to have to find your sweet spots!

On top of that, we used to call it "Night-Night" in the Marine by the way (For the choke). MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program) is the last form of defense against a terrorist. You're executing these moves to kill an opponent, and you want to do it as fast as possible.

Two huge videos to help you out:

When I was looking for my pulse like in your video, I couldn't do it - I was looking for it in the recesses on the sides of the trachea - on the sides of the trachea and thought that I wouldn't succeed, I thought I was some kind of mutant with deep veins and arteries))) but after watching several videos with Bas Rutten (blood choke) and the one that I post below - I made a big U with my hand and found a strong pulse! OMG I found them - they are further away than they show in your videos - they are right on the sides of the neck! They are located so close to the skin - I feel a strong pulsation and dizziness just by squeezing them a little with my hand!