Help Sooo...I'm Ukrainian

[GrumpyFrog]

Are all you the same as Alexander? Like to hurt/enjoy hurting for money?
That name and nationality gives me severe ptsd.

Listen, buddy, I don't know what happened and I'm sorry that it, apparently, was traumatic. But I genuinely have no clue what you mean and why the accusation. This is...odd and upsetting, to be frank. I understand that you're upset and I'm sorry, but I'm sure there is no country in the world where all people are the same, if that what you meant. I don't think all Alexanders are the same either, it's the most common male name in the world, I heard. Not sure what else I should say, really...

Jesus, even SaSu feels like a fever dream lately.

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

Sexist Ukraine comments spark China backlash – DW – 03/08/2022

A wave of sexist comments about Ukrainian women on Chinese social media has sparked a backlash against China and its citizens in Ukraine, prompting strong reactions from officials in Beijing.

www.dw.com

Brainwashing and annihilation of access to information, have backfired and resulted in uncultured males from China objectifying Ukrainian women. In the past I knew in China there's always a thing for young women from Eastern Europe because of the region's geoeconomic characteristics, but for those uncultured males to make such comments amid unprovoked war, is even more uncalled for, unethical and utterly disgusting.

I don't claim Chinese males - those living in China are intellectually inferior because of the way they are brought up without access to information or knowledge of the world. As a matter of fact China is extremely racist and sexist, as well as being politically xenophobic, for all intents and purposes I would advise everyone to never go to China.

 

[Istanbulite]

 

[ornitier199]

Listen, buddy

No., don't call me that. Please.

I don't know what happened and I'm sorry that it, apparently, was traumatic. But I genuinely have no clue what you mean and why the accusation. This is...odd and upsetting, to be frank. I understand that you're upset and I'm sorry, but I'm sure there is no country in the world where all people are the same, if that what you meant. I don't think all Alexanders are the same either, it's the most common male name in the world, I heard. Not sure what else I should say, really...

Jesus, even SaSu feels like a fever dream lately.

Maybe not, but it definitely brings about PTSD, both that and the name. In fact that same aura is thick as spoiled milk right now.

Are you in the right thread?

Sorry if I sound insensitive. Sounds like something has and is traumatising you. Hard to know what to take seriously sometimes. But with the gresaest respect I think it's best for you to air this in your own thread or another more relevant one.

So why say it? Definitely the same, just behind a new veil.
Well, at least this one didn't give me directions on how to best kill myself.

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

No., don't call me that. Please.


Maybe not, but it definitely brings about PTSD, both that and the name. In fact that same aura is thick as spoiled milk right now.



So why say it? Definitely the same, just behind a new veil.
Well, at least this one didn't give me directions on how to best kill myself.

You sound like a troll.

 

[ornitier199]

You sound like a troll, ngl.
Back under your bridge mate.

Suicidal troll I guess.
Think what you may, it's whatever.

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

Suicidal troll I guess.
Think what you may, it's whatever.

Find something better to do maybe.
Why so childish coming to a site like this?

 

[ornitier199]

Find something better to do maybe.
Why so childish coming to a site like this?

How about reading a bit more instead of—
Nope never mind, like him you're not worth my words even speaking.

Drop it, can you do that? and leave me alone.

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

How about reading a bit more instead of—
Nope never mind, like him you're not worth my words even speaking.

Drop it, can you do that? and leave me alone.

I am okay with not worthy of your words.
I have too much self esteem to spare.

Carry on, suicide-troll kiddo.

 

[Smart No More]

So why say it? Definitely the same, just behind a new veil.
Well, at least this one didn't give me directions on how to best kill myself.

Because it's a valid point. You're clearly in the wrong but I tried to be nice about and offer some benefit of the doubt. You should appreciate the effort.

Drop it, can you do that? and leave me alone.

You came here. You can't get in someone's face and tell them not to look at you. Have a bit of respect. Particularly in a thread with this type of topic. Your comments have nothing to do with this thread and if something you read triggered you it's really irrelevant because nothing in this thread was aimed at you or even relates to your comments. If you can't see that your issues are not just imposed on you. You have to take responsibility for some things instead of blaming everyone else because you were wronged in the past. If it was okay to act the way you are the forum couldn't even function. So take your own advice.... Drop it, and leave. This thread is not the place for it and you're probably well on the way to making a bad name for yourself on the forum. Were you to havw come and opened a thread and looked for support it would have been offered. To jump in with insults/bad attitude is utterly unacceptable.

 

[GrumpyFrog]

Maybe not, but it definitely brings about PTSD, both that and the name. In fact that same aura is thick as spoiled milk right now.

I really have no idea what this whole thing is even about besides me mentioning where I'm from, but if I'm sorry if I offended or upset you with something. That certainly wasn't my intention. Hope you'll feel better soon and maybe get some help with your PTSD.

 

[Smart No More]

Always gracious @Nessie

Honestly I don't think it's entirely deserved in this case. Think i made thst clear. But I have to take my hat off to you.

 

[Istanbulite]

 

[GrumpyFrog]

@Smart No More Thank you, I really appreciate your support in this situation and in general.

 

[Istanbulite]

Crucial....heads up

Russia's failure to take down Kyiv was a defeat for the ages

Kyiv was a Russian defeat for the ages. It started poorly for the invaders and went downhill from there.

apnews.com

 

[Smart No More]

Saw some of the reports from the war crime investigators in that little spa town with around 20 thousand civilians and no military significance to it. There were some horrible signs of death by torture. Really horrific torture and mass graves. The Russian response (as usual) is that its staged by American sources and/or Ukrainians. There are videos of russian tanks shelling the hospitals right after their senior ranking leader had been in there commending the people on the hospital and attempting to give of a more allied impression. Dirty dirty pigs those russian soldiers. Cannot believe it! Now they're likely regrouping for further and more intense attacks at the last open port creating a landlocked Ukraine. UK military specialists have suggested creating a humanitarian barrier around that area in order to offer support and avoid it happening but action has not been taken. It seems they also foresee Putins plans outside of Ukraine and that this is just the start of something even more terrible. However they did say that creating such humanitarian aid would be as likely to spurn WW3 as we're all so concerned about. He appeared to think that Putin dangles this fear over us but wouldn't be quick to put it into action. Certainly not as likely or quick as many fear. I'm still not sure myself but he really did seem to have a good grasp of things as an ex military man.

 

[Istanbulite]

 

[Smart No More]

I guess they only left them alive to let them spread a fearful message of what happens. Aweful!

 

[GrumpyFrog]

Jesus. Belarus is quite a scary place to live in.

 

[Depressed Cat]

Jesus. Belarus is quite a scary place to live in.

That's the diabolical "Russian world" that bloodthirsty genocidal mass-murderer Poo-tin wants to create in all free, democratic countries that surround the evil mafiocratic Russian Federation.

Poo-tin's filthy lackey Lukashenko has sealed his own fate. The Belarusian dictator's days are numbered now. The heroic warriors of the Kastuś Kalinoŭski Battalion of volunteer fighters now fighting against the barbaric Russkie war criminal invaders in Ukraine will return to Belarus once the bloodthirsty Moskals are kicked out of Ukraine, and will liberate Belarus and free its hapless population enslaved by Poo-tin & his Moskal savages.

Here they are, taking oath in the beautiful Belarusian language that has been suppressed in Belarus by the bloodthirsty Kremlin puppet Lukashenko. The white, red & white tricolour is the lovely historical flag of Belarus which will replace the current ugly, tyrannical flag once the diabolical dictator Lukashenko is overthrown for good



Volunteers of the Belarusian Kastuś Kalinoŭski Battalion reunite a dog with its owner in liberated Bucha after the horrific massacre of civilians by the sub-human Russkie war criminal invaders. Interestingly, the name of the dog is Nessie, same as your chosen nickname.

 

[Smart No More]

That's nice to see the dog and it's friend reunited.

 

[GrumpyFrog]

Aww, the dog made my day! Poor baby must've been so scared after getting separated from her human and being left in the warzone. So nice to see a happy ending, even a small one. I feel so bad for all the animals in danger, they so don't deserve to deal with the consequences of our human bullshit and in circumstances like this people often neglect to think about them... So glad to see someone took care of the doggo

 

[Istanbulite]

 

[Smart No More]

I'm not sure if it's good or bad that we're not surprised. What's confusing to me is how the people of Russia can be fooled by this. Are they even?

Its just insane to me that this doesn't backfire.

It's clear to the west that the tactics are to deny in such a way as to say "we know you know we're lying but what can you do about it!?" But what I don't quit understand is how they/he thinks his people will take this approach as it's used to address them and us. Surely they can see what we see. So he either thinks they're morons or they are morons. Of course I appreciate many fear speaking out against the state but there are a small few doing so and there is censorship but they can gain access to real info very easily using a vpn.

End of the Day Putin is tyrant and needs culling along with his cronies. Short of that, this ends badly. The west is already in this war, they just haven't quite realised it yet.

 

[GrumpyFrog]

What's confusing to me is how the people of Russia can be fooled by this. Are they even?

That's a very good question.
Basically, I believe there are two types of reactions among people that supposedly believe it - the people with a severe case of confirmation bias that will eat up any information and deny the obvious as long as it proves them right (I mean, take any group with a skewed wordview, from the incels dwelling on specific sites to anti-vaxxers and try to argue with them and you'll see what I mean), and the people that simply don't know/don't want to know/don't care what is really happening and will much rather say they believe the media and support anything their glorious leader does than go to jail, lose their job or otherwise get ostracised. I believe both exist but it is hard to judge how many people are like the former and how many are like the latter.

@Istanbulite I feel like your new avatar is looking at me sternly and telling me I should stop mucking around on a forum and go do something useful for my country

 

[Istanbulite]

@Istanbulite I feel like your new avatar is looking at me sternly and telling me I should stop mucking around on a forum and go do something useful for my country

Every little helps. You ve already done your part. Rest is extra.

Slava Ukraini

 

[Dot]

 

[Istanbulite]

 

[Cathy Ames]

I'm not sure if it's good or bad that we're not surprised. What's confusing to me is how the people of Russia can be fooled by this. Are they even?

Based on what has happened in the US (where there are almost LITERAL alternate realities), I believe a place where the media is under state control would easily be able to do this to the people who are only getting their news from television.

 

[GrumpyFrog]

I believe a place where the media is under state control would easily be able to do this to the people who are only getting their news from television.

You're actually raising a very interesting point about the television. I've looked into the statistics and analytics of support for the war (or "special operation" as they call it) and for the president in Russia, and regardless of whether both of these are hugely overstated in the statistics either by the means of falsification or because people give answers that they believe are expected from them to avoid trouble, there is still a very interesting trend in these stats. Pretty much in all current and historic conflicts where statistics are available, the biggest force supporting wars, revolutions and other violent endeavors are young males (18-30), and the people that are most likely to oppose the war are the old folks that usually resent any kind of change and instability and just want to live out the rest of their lives in peace. But this is absolutely not like this in Russia - the percentage of people supporting the war and the president consistently grows along with the age of respondents, with the youth supporting it the least, and the most support coming from males aged 65+. So pretty much the less likely people are to be tech savvy enough to circumvent the censorship and access alternative information sources, the more they support the state and the war. And maybe Russia has a better future that it's very depressing current state.