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greyhound

greyhound

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Oct 8, 2020
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Sounds pretty intense. Glad you're back though.

Feeling cold is a good data point to know. I've wondered about potentially feeling cold if taking N, as reports indicate your body cools off a lot before death.

The reversibility of SN is a good thing in this case, sounds like you're no worse for wear.
 
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shay23

shay23

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Nov 2, 2020
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Would you try SN again?
Yes just because I know it's certain even though it is very scary, it's not a substance to mess around with. I think I only had about 3 sips of the mixture and I was almost gone. but if there is regret then you can be saved but would need medical attention very quickly. I am now 100% sure I don't want to live so I want to take it again but I handed the ambulance people the SN.
 
Brokensaddle

Brokensaddle

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Sep 28, 2020
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Hey I'm late to this as usual. First I just wanna say I'm glad your okay and no major harm has come to you. That must've been so hard for you, with to deal with your parents and mental health services afterwards. Second thanks for coming back and telling us your experience. I was thinking of using sn as my method and I'll take on board the things you have said today.
 
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Emily_Numb

Emily_Numb

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Jan 14, 2020
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Thought I'd provide this redacted segment of my discharge summary since I've had a couple of pretty nasty DMs accusing me of being an attention seeker / lying about this.

View attachment 49940
I notice this says you have treatment reseistant depression. Can I ask what country you are in? Have you considered Ketamine Treatment? I'm in the UK and there is one clinic doing it here at the moment and it can really lift people out of the abyss. I've had several treatments myself. Just something to look into. Gotta be more fun than another night on the SN, that's for sure.
 
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JustKillBen22

JustKillBen22

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Jul 6, 2020
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Have you considered Ketamine Treatment?
OK can I ask some questions about this? I'm also in the UK and although I've not been interested in treatment recently, after past experiences, but I see ketamine and I get intrigued. How does this work? And where does it happen?
 
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Marchioness

Marchioness

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Feb 17, 2020
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Welcome back, sorry to hear about the failed ctb. Thanks for sharing your story
 
Emily_Numb

Emily_Numb

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Jan 14, 2020
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OK can I ask some questions about this? I'm also in the UK and although I've not been interested in treatment recently, after past experiences, but I see ketamine and I get intrigued. How does this work? And where does it happen?
Google 'Ketamine Clinic UK' and it will come up. It's an NHS site in the middle/south of England. It's ran by the NHS but it's a paid for service meaning you have to self fund.

You have to be referred to the service by a psychiatrist or a GP and it's not guaranteed they will except you. Depends on your medical history.

I had a consultation and then monthly IV treatments at their location where I would need to get someone to drive me to and from. I also has oral ketamine after a while during lockdown as the hospital was closed for a bit. Then I was having monthly IV and Oral treatment every week (which was fed exed to my house).

I'm currently taking a break as it's not cheap and I wasn't sure if it was still working. Sometimes after you've been taking meds for a long time it's hard to gauge if they make you any better. The problem was that treatment resistant depression mixed with Covid and lockdown made me feel even worse which wasn't the ketamines fault. Its purely situational at the moment.

if you search on the site for 'Ketamine' you'll find a bunch of stuff but feel free to dm me any questions rather than us hijack this post.:hug:
 
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peacechoice

peacechoice

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Oct 11, 2020
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I don't remember where, but I read somewhere that "food grade" is usually considered better than "laboratory grade" for our purposes? Don't cite me on this, I'm pretty stupid.
I guess I'm taking SN in a hotel by myself.
 
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AJ95

AJ95

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Sep 3, 2020
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I notice this says you have treatment reseistant depression. Can I ask what country you are in? Have you considered Ketamine Treatment? I'm in the UK and there is one clinic doing it here at the moment and it can really lift people out of the abyss. I've had several treatments myself. Just something to look into. Gotta be more fun than another night on the SN, that's for sure.
I'm in Australia, I have actually looked into it but the one trial that was near me has now closed :(
 
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Emily_Numb

Emily_Numb

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I'm in Australia, I have actually looked into it but the one trial that was near me has now closed :(
This isn't a trial. It's an actual proper treatment. I'd keep checking if I were you as the law may have changed in Australia.
 
SmellyRat

SmellyRat

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Nov 5, 2018
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Yes just because I know it's certain even though it is very scary, it's not a substance to mess around with. I think I only had about 3 sips of the mixture and I was almost gone. but if there is regret then you can be saved but would need medical attention very quickly. I am now 100% sure I don't want to live so I want to take it again but I handed the ambulance people the SN.
@shay23
Was it lab or food grade SN?
 
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ronigail9

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Oct 5, 2019
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It's important to edit your post and include after "SN was painless" that you only lasted a minute until you crawled to your parents rescue.


You also threw up several times with the stat dose regime. If you really, really wanna die you go with 48 hour regime but that's just my opinion.

Mooncide who was filmed during her attempt showed that she didn't stop breathing after several minutes and she said "fuck" three times as if she was in pain. She also groaned a lot,
She did a six hour fast from dinner. She did not follow a regimen of 8 hours fast.
 
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specklenought

specklenought

Internet Cry Baby
Oct 2, 2020
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I'm so sorry it didn't work, the hospital /family stuff sounds really traumatic, I hope you are managing ok. I am selfishly glad to see ur avatar again tho ~
 
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ts0hill

Victim of the pharmaceutical industry
Oct 17, 2020
100
Hey everyone,

You guys might have seen my thread about a week ago when I decided to try and ctb, it's here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/tonight-is-the-night-its-time-to-say-goodbye.52089/

Obviously, I'm not dead, despite my best efforts. Here is a brief overview of what happened:

After I drank the SN I felt fine for a few minutes, then started to feel my heart racing and I got dizzy as well. I said goodbye to the people in the chat and then went to go lie down, hoping I'd just pass out and die. Unfortunately that's not what happened.

Almost the second I moved away from my computer a hugely intense wave of nausea overwhelmed me, I can normally keep myself from throwing up but after lying down for a few seconds and trying to breathe deeply to stop it I knew that I was going to be sick. I crawled to the bathroom and turned the lights on and threw up a few times into the toilet, my parents woke up (I'm guessing from the noise) and found me. They had known I was feeling suicidal and I think suspected (but didn't know) that I had SN, but as soon as they saw me I think they knew what had happened. Dad called 000 (the emergency line here) and mum went into my room and found the SN, my glasses, measuring equipment, etc.

I was semi conscious at this point and curled up on the floor, threw up a couple more times, and was extremely cold to the point that I was shivering and shaking quite a lot.

The police and paramedics arrived pretty much at the same time, followed by police rescue maybe 10 or 15 minutes later. They gave me oxygen, a cannula in each arm (extremely painful) and tried to keep me talking, my blood oxygen at this point was 88%, and after a few minutes went up to I believe 91 or 92%. I was feeling very sorry for myself and just trying to stay conscious at this point.

Once police rescue were there they brought in a stretcher and tried to get me down the stairs into the ambulance, this is around the point I lost consciousness, they had me on a stretcher and were trying to get me around a very sharp bend in the stairs in my house.

In the ambulance the weirdest part was how nonchalant they all were, just chatting very casually about me while I faded in and out of consciousness, they had a weird oxygen mask over my mouth and nose and I was still shaking from cold, they wouldn't give me a blanket either.

I vaguely remember being rained on as they took me into the hospital, and there were so many people around me, they had the poisons information on the line and were talking about a case of a girl in California who had died from only 1g of SN, they had weighed the container found in my room and estimated I'd taken 50g, in reality it was only 20, I'd just prepared two doses.

My methemoglobin was at 58% while in there and my SpO2 dropped as low as 66%, they cut my top off and pulled my pants off and covered me with those ECG stickers, when I removed them there were a ton of them. They started to treat me with methylene blue (140mg in two doses according to my discharge summary, I remember them discussing that I could have up to 5mg/kg) and it was after this (not sure how long) that I regained consciousness completely. I was freezing cold and had one of the people holding an oxygen mask over my face, they were talking about intubating me and moving me to the ICU but apparently there were no beds available there, they told me they were going to intubate me but decided against it because my oxygen saturation was already very low and I was "GCS 15" which seems to refer to a Glasgow Coma Scale, meaning I was conscious.

Anyway after a bit everything seemed to settle down, my SpO2 was going up and my methemoglobin was going down, I was still supposed to go to the ICU but ended up staying in the resuscitation bay because there was no space. My parents came in, that was the hardest bit for me. My dad's eyes were so red, it was obvious that he'd been crying a lot. They went home around 5:30am, and I wasn't able to sleep. This is about 4.5hrs after I took the SN.

The head doctor at the ED, a lovely woman named Eva, came and had a very blunt chat with me. She asked where I got the SN (I just said "online") and told me that it was a very close call, I was only minutes from death and I was really fighting for oxygen at one point. That was pretty interesting to hear since it didn't feel like a close call at all, I was conscious or semi-conscious for most of it and didn't need to be intubated. Even though I was in intensive care I wasn't actually admitted to the ICU.

After spending the rest of that day in the ED I was medically cleared once my methemoglobin was normalized and sent to the psychiatric ward under a mental health order, worth noting that this was less than 24 hours after I took the SN, things worked really fast.

The thing that really, really irritates me is how they talked to me about what would happen with the psychiatric ward, first it was "maybe it wouldn't even be effective for you, maybe you'll stay for a day or so" then it was "maybe just a day or two", then once I was there Friday I was told that I'd have to stay the whole weekend at least because there are no psychiatrists there over the weekend (how this is possible in a major hospital I have literally no idea)

After a couple of days in the psych ward I started to literally lose my fucking mind from boredom (no leave, nothing to do) and on Monday begged them to discharge me, with my parents permission they sent me home and now I'm on a waiting list for a residential program, a private hospital that I'd go to for 3-4 weeks for full time care, me agreeing to go there was a condition of my discharge :/

Anyway! That's about it, if anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them, or even upload a copy of my discharge summary with all personal info removed, it summarises what happened.

I think I'm going to try and take things easy for a bit, I don't feel any different in terms of mood and the psych ward staff put me on an antipsychotic, lurasidone, which has been making me feel really blunted. I'm considering just not taking it, I've read that it can cause permanent issues with your brain.

Here are some of the things I've taken away from this incident though:
  • The SN was completely painless, not even a tummy ache.
  • The nausea was bad but the actual throwing up wasn't any worse than if you drink too much.
  • Maybe the 20g I took was excessive? I almost died and only had it down for 5-10 mins, maybe 10g would be a better idea if it didn't make me throw up.
  • Definitely need to fast longer than the 6 hours I did, I still had a lot of dinner in my vomit.
  • Dress warmly! I was very cold although I was lying on a tiled bathroom floor.
Edit: I forgot about this one until now, but I feel like using SN as an enema could be the best way to take it, assuming it's able to be absorbed that way. There would be no nausea or risk of vomiting it up that way.

As for where to go now, I don't know. Both my parents and the doctors asked me if I feel different after this attempt, and the honest answer is no. I don't feel any better. I don't feel some life-changing realization after almost dying.

Still depressed and suicidal, but I have no plans at the moment. My SN and my metoclopramide is gone so I'll have to start from scratch.

Love,

Ava
what does the residential program do? is it like a in patient therapy? Did you feel any different mentally after? like I heard not getting enough oxygen to the brain can have an effect for a while such as feeling dizzy for light headed a few days
 
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AJ95

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what does the residential program do? is it like a in patient therapy? Did you feel any different mentally after? like I heard not getting enough oxygen to the brain can have an effect for a while such as feeling dizzy for light headed a few days
Yeah it's like in patient therapy, I'll go there for 3-4 weeks and hopefully not be an over-medicated zombie by the end of it

I don't feel any different mentally or emotionally, I did feel pretty tired for a few days afterwards but that could've just been the lack of sleep too, hard to say. I feel completely fine now though, physically
 
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grungeCat

grungeCat

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Jul 5, 2020
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That's very sad to read things turned out this badly. I wish you the best. I hope the fate won't be so harsh on you in the future.
 
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http-410

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Sep 12, 2020
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Thank you for sharing your experience.

Were you experiencing panic at some point?

Were you having tachycardia? Was it bearable?
 
Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
Feb 23, 2020
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Welcome back, thanks for your feedback, sounds like you had a terrible time, :hug:. Wow you tried to CTB so soon after a Police visit on the 16th Oct, didn't your family watch you the Police said you were a member of SS and was going to CTB, it was less than 2 weeks on the 28th Oct you tried to CTB, you must be really desperate to CTB. Glad you came back to tell us about your attempt and gave us a full discription of what you went through.

Your very lucky a lot of Parents would have confiscated there devices to prevent them buying anything online so they couldn't try again or ask you to leave and find your own place to live as they can't handle the stress, a lot of people wish they had your parents as they don't seem to be very strict knowing you accessed SS and are still here communicating with us,:smiling: I would like to be a fly on the wall when your father spoke to the Police again.

Anyway welcome back

Best wishes

Geo
 
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x~Sophia~x

x~Sophia~x

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Sep 10, 2020
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Welcome back, thanks for your feedback, sounds like you had a terrible time, :hug:. Wow you tried to CTB so soon after a Police visit on the 16th Oct, didn't your family watch you the Police said you were a member of SS and was going to CTB, it was less than 2 weeks on the 28th Oct you tried to CTB, you must be really desperate to CTB. Glad you came back to tell us about your attempt and gave us a full discription of what you went through.

Your very lucky a lot of Parents would have confiscated there devices to prevent them buying anything online so they couldn't try again or ask you to leave and find your own place to live as they can't handle the stress, a lot of people wish they had your parents as they don't seem to be very strict knowing you accessed SS and are still here communicating with us,:smiling: I would like to be a fly on the wall when your father spoke to the Police again.

Anyway welcome back

Best wishes

Geo

There is a condescending undertone to this post Geo... AJ is not a child, and therefore her parents aren't likely to confiscate her belongings. Unless I'm missing something, you know nothing about AJ's family or her set up, therefore you have no right to comment about what could've/should've happened as a result of the police calling round and her ctb attempt. I can almost hear you sniggering as you typed the above!! :heh:
 
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Astronomer

Astronomer

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Oct 6, 2020
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There is a condescending undertone to this post Geo... AJ is not a child, and therefore her parents aren't likely to confiscate her belongings. Unless I'm missing something, you know nothing about AJ's family or her set up, therefore you have no right to comment about what could've/should've happened as a result of the police calling round and her ctb attempt. I can almost hear you sniggering as you typed the above!! :heh:
Oh please shut up.

Talk about trying to squeeze something from nothing.

I found Geo's post kind and respectful. What post were you reading?
 
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x~Sophia~x

x~Sophia~x

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Sep 10, 2020
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Oh please shut up.

Talk about trying to squeeze something from nothing.

I found Geo's post kind and respectful. What post were you reading?
"... kind and respectful." :pfff:
Which post were you reading?
Kindly take your own advice and shut up yourself... if you can't sense the condescending undertones in that post, you must be very naive!
 
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Astronomer

Astronomer

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Oct 6, 2020
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"... kind and respectful." :pfff:
Which post were you reading?
Kindly take your own advice and shut up yourself... if you can't sense the condescending undertones in that post, you must be very naive!
'Anyway welcome back'
'Best wishes'
'thanks for your feedback'

Just a few points from the condescending undertone post he made.

Must be just the supersonic hearing you claim to have to nearly hear the sniggering.
 
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mrease

mrease

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Nov 3, 2020
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welcome back. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you. Whatever happens from here, I wish you peace.
 
x~Sophia~x

x~Sophia~x

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'Anyway welcome back'
'Best wishes'
'thanks for your feedback'

Yeah, those three sentences seem sincere... but it's downhill all the way, from there :ehh:

Anyway, it's my opinion.
 
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I'm so glad everyone picks everyone's post apart to give their perception of meaning.
I'm so glad everyone picks everyone's post apart to give their perception of meaning.
Being sarcastic
I'm so glad everyone picks everyone's post apart to give their perception of meaning.
Being sarcastic
 
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