strangelife

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I have everything for SN and only the mask for nitrogen is missing, but this is not a problem. which of these two methods is the most painless and working. Sn seems to be the simplest and most effective if everything is done correctly and no one finds me within 4-6 hours, as I understand. Nitrogen works faster, but I'm worried that something might not work correctly, and somehow I don't really like being found with a balloon and a mask on my face. What are your thoughts on choosing between these methods?
 
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I would chose SN, just cause I would be scared of failling nitrogen.
 
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I would chose SN, just cause I would be scared of failling nitrogen.
why do you think that nitrogen is risky to fail
 
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Praestat_Mori

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If I had the option to choose only SN or N2 I'd go with N2 (Nitrogen). Not only it's faster than SN it's also more peaceful (especially there's no risk of vomiting), you do not have a preparation period - fasting, taking special meds for at least 12h or more.

Given the fact your N2 is 99.9% and your mask is airtight it's the way to go in my opinion if those r the 2 options.
 
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If I had the option to choose only SN or N2 I'd go with N2 (Nitrogen). Not only it's faster than SN it's also more peaceful (especially there's no risk of vomiting), you do not have a preparation period - fasting, taking special meds for at least 12h or more.

Given the fact your N2 is 99.9% and your mask is airtight it's the way to go in my opinion if those r the 2 options.
thanks for the answer, is it possible to use nitrogen with exit bag?
 
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Praestat_Mori

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thanks for the answer, is it possible to use nitrogen with exit bag?
Yes. You just have to make sure there is no leak and you cannot breath oxygen in any case. CO2 is exhaled and must exit the bag.

 
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I would definitely go with nitrogen.

Pros - no pain and it's also much more peaceful than SN, no risk of vomiting, no need for fasting beforehand, no need for antiemetics etc., and not to mention it's very quick
 
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Yes. You just have to make sure there is no leak and you cannot breath oxygen in any case. CO2 is exhaled and must exit the bag.

As I understand the mask is better, thanks
 
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Praestat_Mori

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As I understand the mask is better, thanks
Have you read this thread?

 
strangelife

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Have you read this thread?

yes I did, thanks
I wonder then why Vizzy, who had everything prepared for nitrogen, still chose sn
 
strangelife

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Actually he chose N2 in the end, afaik.
Did not catch it. Then it's more clear to me. will think about. I understand that sn is more popular because of its simplicity
 
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I would add fasting to the Nitrogen method. After the Kenneth Smith execution protocol, fasting sounds a reasonable thing to do to prevent vomiting...
 
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UKscotty

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Definitely nitrogen. SN is too unreliable and needs too much preparation, lots of time for SI to kick in.
 
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I would add fasting to the Nitrogen method. After the Kenneth Smith execution protocol, fasting sounds a reasonable thing to do to prevent vomiting...
Nitrogen won't make you vomit. You will be unconscious in a few breaths and in less than 10 seconds. 2 minutes to death.
 
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Nitrogen won't make you vomit. You will be unconscious in a few breaths and in less than 10 seconds. 2 minutes to death.
I also don't think it índuces any vomit... But, just in case, fasting is a good idea.

And I have tried to test the method... I would say one would lose consciousness around 4 to 6 breaths, or around 30 to 60 seconds.
 
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I believe inert gas methods are quite rare, the PPH handbook will score both so that should help for a competitive breakdown.

I think I prefer SN because it's easier but if both were equally available then of-course jumping in a sacro pod or something would likely win.
 
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I also don't think it índuces any vomit... But, just in case, fasting is a good idea.

And I have tried to test the method... I would say one would lose consciousness around 4 to 6 breaths, or around 30 to 60 seconds.
Trying this method is very risky, you ve got an assistant?
 
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I believe inert gas methods are quite rare, the PPH handbook will score both so that should help for a competitive breakdown.

I think I prefer SN because it's easier but if both were equally available then of-course jumping in a sacro pod or something would likely win.
I was almost ready for the sn method, but now I'm going to think about the option with nitrogen
Because I got nitrogen when I was not suicidal
And I bought Sn several weeks ago
 
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I've just made another test... And I think I've found a better way to test it with a little more "accuracy".

This time I put one more hose inside the garbage bag. One connected to the gas cylinder and another smaller piece to breathe from it — as if it were a straw in a cup. I also plugged my nostrils with 2 spongy ear plugs.

I filled the bag with Nitrogen, closed the regulator valve and started "breathing" from it.

I think I "swallowed"/inhaled deeply about 4 times before feeling really light headed, "excited"/"euphoric"/"confused"... and then some fear also struck me — because I was sitting on a chair and didn't want to risk falling on the floor...

Breathing through the hose is quite demanding and unnatural... And I might have inhaled oxygen in between breaths, when putting the hose back into my mouth after exhaling...

After the 4th breath... I just couldn't do It anymore from that point on... so I dropped the hose and started breathing normally... I felt that I was about to pass out and fought against It.

All of this took place in about 35 seconds(I've recorded a vídeo to know the timings). Not the best scenario as I expected, but also not bad at all.

I'm estimating that, with the bag over my head, things will be a lot easier, efficient and comfortable... And with no risk of inhaling oxygen.
 
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I was almost ready for the sn method, but now I'm going to think about the option with nitrogen
Because I got nitrogen when I was not suicidal
And I bought Sn several weeks ago
Same here, I'm not suicidal 24/7. I guess I'm bipolar bc my depression comes in waves
 
Kapsyl

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What kind of method using nitrogen are you thinking of? You mentioned mask so scba? I'm using a gas mask but that way is still under trial, haven't tested it yet.
 
strangelife

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Same here, I'm not suicidal 24/7. I guess I'm bipolar bc my depression comes in waves
I am not bipolar, I bought nitrogen for welding, not for suiside, when I was healthy
What kind of method using nitrogen are you thinking of? You mentioned mask so scba? I'm using a gas mask but that way is still under trial, haven't tested it yet.
I want to by the mask, something like on the photo, it needs to be a bit tuned, but I think it must work
 

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Kapsyl

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I am not bipolar, I bought nitrogen for welding, not for suiside, when I was healthy

I want to by the mask, something like on the photo, it needs to be a bit tuned, but I think it must work
Check out my thread, my method is only possible using a reservoir you face similar problems. Most would advise not using that mask i believe.

 
strangelife

strangelife

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Check out my thread, my method is only possible using a reservoir you face similar problems. Most would advise not using that mask i believe.

🙏 thank you
 
strangelife

strangelife

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which is better nitrogen or helium? I have the opportunity to purchase 99% production helium
 
thewalkingdread

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Nitrogen is cheaper
 

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