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jessisme

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Dec 3, 2022
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I am also terrified of that happening to me. I figure if anything I'll just drink more/try to keep down as much as I can and hope for the best, since the lethal dose is actually much smaller than what is suggested to use here with >95% and hopefully I will also have time on my side once I figure out somewhere to go to be undisturbed.

I have gotten a little more anxious because I just found out that it starts breaking down after it has been exposed to air and only has a shelf life of about three months after that. I was hoping to be able to do the blood test shortly after I receive it and then based on what I find wait until late spring to do it but that isn't going to work time wise. I'm also still concerned that the purity is not high or that it's possibly not even Sodium Nitrite. I wish I had access to a more reliable source. There's a lot hinging on this working. Not sure what to do.
 
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stilhavinightmares

Warlock
Oct 13, 2022
735
I have gotten a little more anxious because I just found out that it starts breaking down after it has been exposed to air and only has a shelf life of about three months after that. I was hoping to be able to do the blood test shortly after I receive it and then based on what I find wait until late spring to do it but that isn't going to work time wise. I'm also still concerned that the purity is not high or that it's possibly not even Sodium Nitrite. I wish I had access to a more reliable source. There's a lot hinging on this working. Not sure what to do.
I hear all of this. There's so much conflicting information out there, it's a LOT to base your literal life on some half ass information. Unfortunately that's all we've got. Much like life.
 
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Purin

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Dec 5, 2022
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Has anyone ordered SN from this source?
 

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fuzzy-clown

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Nov 27, 2022
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Has anyone ever posted that they failed due to their SN expiring?
 
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bkmngtr

Member
Nov 27, 2022
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I checked and SN has a pK of 9, i.e. it is slightly basic. I am wondering whether it is possible (and also makes sense), to prepare SN stomach acid resistant capsules. They are available and are guaranteed to pass through the stomach undissolved if one does not eat before or after intake of pills for several hours. The pills eventually dissolve in the intestines and release the SN.

The benefits I could imagine are:
  1. Sleeping pills and tranquillisers have more time to work before the side effects of SN start happening. One could still first swallow the SN pills and then the crushed sleeping pill powder as to be sure not to fall asleep before the actual lethal compound has entered the stomach
  2. The potency is increased a lot as ideally no SN reacts with HCl thus transforming it to nitrate and NaCl
  3. Vomiting the active compounds might be avoided because the capsules must have already left the stomach by the time the SN is released

As downsides I could imagine:
  1. Discomfort of having 20 capsules of SN in your stomach not dissolving
  2. No idea how body reacts to dry salt (SN) releasing in your intestines at 20g (i.e. it might dry out your intestines, very unpleasant feeling?)
  3. Maybe slower action as not all of the SN is dissolved right away and some pills dissolve faster than others
The major benefit I see really is that hopefully this avoids vomiting active compound out again and secondly that hopefully there is more time for long acting sleeping agents (that take more than 30 min to act) working before one has symptoms while maintaining the proper order of intake (first lethal compound than tranquillisers)


Any thoughts or comments on my idea?
 
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Wunderkind

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Nov 25, 2022
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How long can SN be stored diluted with water?
 
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Emmie

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Oct 19, 2021
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I checked and SN has a pK of 9, i.e. it is slightly basic. I am wondering whether it is possible (and also makes sense), to prepare SN stomach acid resistant capsules. They are available and are guaranteed to pass through the stomach undissolved if one does not eat before or after intake of pills for several hours. The pills eventually dissolve in the intestines and release the SN.

The benefits I could imagine are:
  1. Sleeping pills and tranquillisers have more time to work before the side effects of SN start happening. One could still first swallow the SN pills and then the crushed sleeping pill powder as to be sure not to fall asleep before the actual lethal compound has entered the stomach
  2. The potency is increased a lot as ideally no SN reacts with HCl thus transforming it to nitrate and NaCl
  3. Vomiting the active compounds might be avoided because the capsules must have already left the stomach by the time the SN is released

As downsides I could imagine:
  1. Discomfort of having 20 capsules of SN in your stomach not dissolving
  2. No idea how body reacts to dry salt (SN) releasing in your intestines at 20g (i.e. it might dry out your intestines, very unpleasant feeling?)
  3. Maybe slower action as not all of the SN is dissolved right away and some pills dissolve faster than others
The major benefit I see really is that hopefully this avoids vomiting active compound out again and secondly that hopefully there is more time for long acting sleeping agents (that take more than 30 min to act) working before one has symptoms while maintaining the proper order of intake (first lethal compound than tranquillisers)


Any thoughts or comments on my idea?
Some people on here, going back several years, have attempted to CTB with SN in pill form. Once you get your post count above a certain number (10, I think) you will then have access to the search bar and can read up on those threads. I don't remember much off the top of my head, but it seems like most people decided pills weren't an ideal way to deliver SN to your system.
 
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Illidan77

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Nov 22, 2022
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hi guys,
what is SN with high % used for ?
I'm trying to buy it from laboratory supplier but it doesn't include how many %.. I want to ask but I don't want to be seen suspicious, the differences is that one is technical grade and the other is analys reagen grade, the price kinda differ a lot, both doesn't give description on how many %..
and i've googled a lot.. but none mention the formula..
so my question is what reason if I were being asked, and to look not suspicious, what other chemical should i pretend to ask ?
thanks, idk should I make a new thread about this.
 
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Wunderkind

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Nov 25, 2022
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I have a question. I have 99.5% purity on my SN, it is food grade. But in other sources I saw different numbers but not more than 99%. Do you think my SN is that good? It has a yellowish tint
 
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bkmngtr

Member
Nov 27, 2022
25
Some people on here, going back several years, have attempted to CTB with SN in pill form. Once you get your post count above a certain number (10, I think) you will then have access to the search bar and can read up on those threads. I don't remember much off the top of my head, but it seems like most people decided pills weren't an ideal way to deliver SN to your system.
thank you for the info. I understand that pills in general might not give great benefit but stomach acid resistant pills might be something different. Then again, it all depends whether this postpones the onset of symptoms long enough for sleeping pills to work, otherwise it would be useless.
 
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bkmngtr

Member
Nov 27, 2022
25
hi guys,
what is SN with high % used for ?
I'm trying to buy it from laboratory supplier but it doesn't include how many %.. I want to ask but I don't want to be seen suspicious, the differences is that one is technical grade and the other is analys reagen grade, the price kinda differ a lot, both doesn't give description on how many %..
and i've googled a lot.. but none mention the formula..
so my question is what reason if I were being asked, and to look not suspicious, what other chemical should i pretend to ask ?
thanks, idk should I make a new thread about this.
technical grade is most like 95%+ or 98%+, analytical grade is usually much higher and the impurities are rather controlled (for example that it is mostly moisture). I am not an expert but I assume that NS is lethal even in 10% if one takes enough but the remaining 90% could lead to side effects that can either make the process unpleasant or even lead to vomiting. Therefore high(er) purity is desired to avoid unpleasant surprises. I think you can assume unless stated otherwise, lab supplies guarantee 98% purity
 
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bkmngtr

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Nov 27, 2022
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So I have 10 tablets containing each 30mg of codeine phosphate hemihydrate and 500mg Paracetamol and was wondering whether they can help for the SN method to have a more pleasant ending. Essentially I would do the protocol of Stan but would 1 hour before the NS take maybe 2-4 pills of Codeinphosphat-Hemihydrat (i.e. 60-120mg codeine phosphate hemihydrate and 1g to 2g of Paracetamol total), such that one will not feel the headache and pain as much once it kicks in. I also thought about taking even more (i.e. maybe 8 pills, twice the dose) but am afraid of Paracetamol damage (liver but also hearing, I have a very debilitating ear disease).

So will this amount of pain killer have a tangible effect but also will allow me still to drink the NS and if necessary drink another glass of NS in case of vomiting? I am worried that if I take too much that I may not be able to drink the NS anymore but instead get liver damage due to the Paracetamol. On the other hand taking a pain killer, not a sleeping agent, would allow to better control and readjust after taking the first glass of 20g of NS. Alternatively I could also take 15mg of clonazepam and 170mg of zopiclone right after the first glass of NS but I am afraid that this could risk the entire procedure in case I vomit while being asleep.

Hope someone can help me to understand what effect 60mg, 120mg or even 240mg of codeine phosphate hemihydrate have and how much this impairs one.
 
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Grooving4186

New Member
Dec 14, 2022
1
Hello. Long time lurker, now a member with a question. Does SN breakdown when mixed with water? And if so, how long does it take?
 
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Mofreeko

Arcanist
Apr 7, 2019
478
Hello. Long time lurker, now a member with a question. Does SN breakdown when mixed with water? And if so, how long does it take?
I would say yes. It definitely breaks down when exposed to air and light. Basically I wouldn't even open it unless I planned to ctb that day.
 
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nohopeleft77

Member
Dec 8, 2022
16
This method is not painful. However, you may be mildly to moderately uncomfortable during the conscious part of the process. Some people don't seem to even experience this uncomfortable part, so it seems to be personal. The point is that you won't experience any pain in the normal sense - besides some potentially mild headache.

On the other hand, if you have ulcers in your stomach, that may cause actual pain.
This is not what I've read. Look at ?moonshines? account. Gasping for air etc. Any method is going to be painful except firearms, F, or N. I'm terrified but it's the only option I have available other than hanging which is even more terrifying. I had a great life but was a victim of narcissists and lost everything and now I'm on the brink of homelessness. I have no choice but to CBT or else be a burden to everyone around me. So sad to be writing this on Christmas Eve. So sorry for the family and friends I've hurt by messing up my life so bad. I am grateful for this site that gives us the choice and the facts to choose the least bad of the available options.
 
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BurningMan

Member
Dec 25, 2022
41
Does anywhere deliver to Ireland for SN? I tried in one place and it said the IATA regulations forbid it. Does the IC website follow this?
 
Thisisme373

Thisisme373

Arcanist
Feb 16, 2019
416
Anyone ordered from place that asks you to email ID with address etc before they ship?
Is the process fine and you got package no issues?
I'm in UK
 
WhenTheyCry

WhenTheyCry

Experienced
Jun 25, 2022
270
Thanks to the people who pmed me a source. Does anyone know the shipping time for IC? Also, what kind of package does it come in? Is it a box or a bag?
If you need a source feel free to pm me for one.