Resource SN megathread

[Arak]

I'd wonder if higher doses will really be more effective or you may be more likely to seek help due to suffering ?

 

[Shay]

What is a good brand of sodium nitrite that's 98 percent pure

 

[요한나]

What is the principle of abdominal pain? Are you sure the abdominal pain is gone when you eat antiemetics and Ranitidine Tylenol? There is a case that I died in 2 hours after complaining of abdominal pain by eating sodium nitrite in the area where I live.
I'm going to eat 100 g of Domperidone. Will not this vomiting be suppressed much if I eat this much? Although vomiting can be tolerated,
I am worried about abdominal pain.

 

[Arak]

name above ... I don't think it would work for the pain, but I'm not that familiar with this method.

 

[Deutschv2]

Metoclopramide in addition to being an antiemetic is largely used for "gerd" it works by speeding up digestion. Tagamet does the same thing (except the antiemetic part)

Would a proton pump inhibitor like lansoprazole be a good substitute for metoclopramide? Apparently lansoprazole helps treat gerd.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

Would a proton pump inhibitor like lansoprazole be a good substitute for metoclopramide? Apparently lansoprazole helps treat gerd.
what about hyoscamine?

Metoclopramide is a dopamine blocker, and blocks a shitload of receptors h2 ect. Ect. I haven't heard of either of those two being used as replacement for meto. There are about 3 that are used for chemo treatment to block serious naesea which are also dopamine blockers but meto covers a wider range of receptors for nausea, the receptors are not just in your brain but throughout the digestive tract.

 

[Deutschv2]

Metoclopramide is a dopamine blocker, and blocks a shitload of receptors h2 ect. Ect. I haven't heard of either of those two being used as replacement for meto. There are about 3 that are used for chemo treatment to block serious naesea which are also dopamine blockers but meto covers a wider range of receptors for nausea, the receptors are not just in your brain but throughout the digestive tract.

ah ok, thanks you !

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

What is the principle of abdominal pain? Are you sure the abdominal pain is gone when you eat antiemetics and Ranitidine Tylenol? There is a case that I died in 2 hours after complaining of abdominal pain by eating sodium nitrite in the area where I live.
I'm going to eat 100 g of Domperidone. Will not this vomiting be suppressed much if I eat this much? Although vomiting can be tolerated,
I am worried about abdominal pain.

I would think the abdominal pain might be related to the pH in the stomach, hence the need for tagamet. If you have ever had a bad case of acid indigestion it's pretty painful, people mistake them for heart attacks.

 

[Deutschv2]

another question: ppeh says reducing production of stomach acid is critical to this method. both h2 blocker and proton pump inhibitors reduce production of stomach acid. thing is ppeh recommends tagamet 800mg which is not regular dose, so is it neccesary to take a higher dose of proton pump inhibitor? i read that ppi is more effective than h2 blocker in reducing prod. of stomach acid so feedback appreciated. thanks

 

[Deutschv2]

also, wording of ppeh makes it pretty clear that nitschke thinks antiemetics aren't 100% neccesary, says vomiting unlikely, and says antiemetics can be taken "if vomiting is a concern," what is your take on this guys?

 

[Ready to go.]

Does SN interact with alcohol or benzos? I think I'd have to use one or both for courage.

 

[Deutschv2]

I would think the abdominal pain might be related to the pH in the stomach, hence the need for tagamet. If you have ever had a bad case of acid indigestion it's pretty painful, people mistake them for heart attacks.

sorry if i mistaken but i think tagamet reduce acid levels not strength

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

I would think the abdominal pain might be related to the pH in the stomach, hence the need for tagamet. If you have ever had a bad case of acid indigestion it's pretty painful, people mistake them for heart attacks.

Salt increases acid hcl in the stomach.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/...to-increase-hydrochloric-acid-in-the-stomach/

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

also, wording of ppeh makes it pretty clear that nitschke thinks antiemetics aren't 100% neccesary, says vomiting unlikely, and says antiemetics can be taken "if vomiting is a concern," what is your take on this guys?

I
Nearly every report includes vomiting with sodium nitrite poisoning.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

sorry if i mistaken but i think tagamet reduce acid levels not strength

Yes reduces acid hcl levels

 

[Deutschv2]

I
Nearly every report includes vomiting with sodium nitrite poisoning.

i assume you mean without anti emetic, and alright thanks you !

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

Does SN interact with alcohol or benzos? I think I'd have to use one or both for courage.

No interaction for both, the only thing that lowers metHb is methylene blue.

 

[Ready to go.]

No interaction for both, the only thing that lowers metHb is methylene blue.

Okay great! So I can get toasted on my way out?

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

Okay great! So I can get toasted on my way out?

I would, can't see much downside.

 

[MachineGunDani]

My sn comes in a couple of days!!

 

[Ready to go.]

I would, can't see much downside.

Thank you so much :)

 

[Ready to go.]

I would, can't see much downside.

Yeah, a real concern is that neither the SN,antiemetics or tagamet effect GABA either. Because if this method somehow didnt work for me. I'd might go into acute withdrawal from zanax if one of did. Ive been on 2mg for 2 years. Just trying to make sure.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

Yeah, a real concern is that neither the SN,antiemetics or tagamet effect GABA either. Because if this method somehow didnt work for me. I'd might go into acute withdrawal from zanax if one of did. Ive been on 2mg for 2 years. Just trying to make sure.

The only failures on this method, are by people that have sought help or recieved help, everybody else as far as i know succeeded. Taking 15+ grams of sn isnt something your going to recuperate from outside of a hospital.

 

[Ready to go.]

The only failures on this method, are by people that have sought help or recieved help, everybody else as far as i know succeeded. Taking 15+ grams of sn isnt something your going to recuperate from outside of a hospital.

That about sums it up for me then. And hopefully will lose consciousness swiftly and avoid most discomfort. Sorry for so many questions but I need to know how you measure 15+ grams. Do you have to have a scale?

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

That about sums it up for me then. And hopefully will lose consciousness swiftly and avoid most discomfort. Sorry for so many questions but I need to know how you measure 15+ grams. Do you have to have a scale?

https://www.calculateme.com/recipe/15-grams-of-salt

 

[Lunar]

Can I ask if Tagamet is a must or is Ranitidine fine to use instead?

 

[Ready to go.]

https://www.calculateme.com/recipe/15-grams-of-salt

Very cool. You are the best!! Thank you so much!!

 

[Sayo]

Click on 'More units'.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=15+g+NaNO2+volume

But yeah, just get a $10 kitchen scale for peace of mind.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

Can I ask if Tagamet is a must or is Ranitidine fine to use instead?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6318628/

 

[Lunar]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6318628/

Thank you. It's appreciated.