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Vegrau

Wizard
Nov 27, 2018
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Etc etc usw

Etc etc usw.

Like wise.

Considering how rude you are, the way you talked to me earlier. Yes I am offended by it. If youre rude to me I wont show you any respect or courtesy. Why should I? If you think what I said is wrong. Refute it with your own research by all means. Believe it or not is your choice not mine. Not that I care either. I just say what I know and thats that.
 
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Thorn

Wrecked
Jun 8, 2019
284
What's overrated about? Apart from being overpriced? What's wrong with the vet solution?

Mainly because you are still all alone in it. No assistance, no one to ensure you don't wake up choking in your own vomit, and you need to swallow quite a lot of it. The taste may be an issue for some, but the price definitely is going to be, if it does come up after loss of consciousness. And with vet solution, a bigger guy or gal would need to swallow three of these. There is no perfect solution. In the end, death is death, and all that counts is how fast the consciousness is lost. So the poor man's version is not that bad, just more investment in patience and preparations, to get it right.
 
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bluesky1972-2019

Specialist
May 21, 2019
377
I'm quite confused about SN. Some say that if you don't ctb (because maybe you didn't take enough or vomited some) you won't suffer any brain damage etc. But if SN takes the oxygen away, surely this will damage your brain? And you'll have some pretty bad lasting effects.
 
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Thorn

Wrecked
Jun 8, 2019
284
It's a slow progress, so eventually, yes. Just from the known examples so far, people were either "saved" in time, or CTB'd, even after throwing up. Those who either did not follow the guide, threw up immediately, or ate something hours before, did not make it. Brain damage in these cases is possible, only those people would not return to talk about it. SN is easily absorbed, so throwing up after some time seems to make no difference.
 
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bluesky1972-2019

Specialist
May 21, 2019
377
It's a slow progress, so eventually, yes. Just from the known examples so far, people were either "saved" in time, or CTB'd, even after throwing up. Those who either did not follow the guide, threw up immediately, or ate something hours before, did not make it. Brain damage in these cases is possible, only those people would not return to talk about it. SN is easily absorbed, so throwing up after some time seems to make no difference.
I guess what you are saying is that if it gets as far as damaging your brain then you will ctb as you won't be waking up.
 
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Crystal Labeija

Crystal Labeija

Experienced
Jun 3, 2019
216
And with vet solution, a bigger guy or gal would need to swallow three of these.

Is there any scientific basis for this? Are there any reported cases of people failing for being too big? Alcohol and antipsychotics are known for cross-tolerance, but I'm not sure if body weight means three bottles are needed.

I feel like this is a myth that people on this site made up out of unreasonable anxiety. N has been a reliable and lethal substance for decades.
 
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Thorn

Wrecked
Jun 8, 2019
284
There is a point of no return with this, where there's nothing left to do. It's an old and known poison, and seems like smokers, for example, or people with vitamin C deficiency are more vulnerable.
 
Crystal Labeija

Crystal Labeija

Experienced
Jun 3, 2019
216
There is a point of no return with this, where there's nothing left to do. It's an old and known poison, and seems like smokers, for example, or people with vitamin C deficiency are more vulnerable.

I just tried to search and see if anyone survived it and there was very little data about people surviving. Comparing N to SN is implausible because SN is a new method that hasn't been studied and tried. N, however, has been killing people for decades.
 
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Thorn

Wrecked
Jun 8, 2019
284
Is there any scientific basis for this? Are there any reported cases of people failing for being too big? Alcohol and antipsychotics are known for cross-tolerance, but I'm not sure if body weight means three bottles are needed.

I feel like this is a myth that people on this site made up out of unreasonable anxiety. N has been a reliable and lethal substance for decades.

Like many other drugs in this class, doses are calculated by body weight and tolerances. One bottle of vet N is just 6 grams.

As far as SN goes. there is already a thread here:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-method.16112/post-307450
 
Crystal Labeija

Crystal Labeija

Experienced
Jun 3, 2019
216
Like many other drugs in this class, doses are calculated by body weight and tolerances. One bottle of vet N is just 6 grams.

As far as SN goes. there is already a thread here:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-method.16112/post-307450

The standard lethal dose for N is between 6 - 10 grams. Two bottles of N is equivalent to 12 grams. That, coupled with meto, is a very fatal combo according to PPeH. I don't see any science behind the idea that you need more than that.

The people on this sub aren't experts on pharmaceuticals or chemicals. We get our information from proponents of euthanasia. We're not experts here. Very few of us have sufficient backgrounds to evaluate these methods on our own without consulting the resources.
 
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Thorn

Wrecked
Jun 8, 2019
284
Only that is not an exact science here. It's more about making sure, because things happen and go wrong, if you are not assisted and monitored and taken care of.
I can understand the arguments, but the stuff sourced independently is not Dignitas certified, and there are no guarantees. The prices of the vet N are cringeworthy, but nobody needs the damn money where they are hoping to get.

And if anyone buys their N, and has delays or second thoughts, they are going to need to buy again. SN does not expire.
 
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Codieb1

Student
Jun 18, 2019
178
Is it possible to get SN and everything else required to take it, in a discreet package, like I've heard N is in? I'm not the one to pick up deliveries and I don't want to be questioned about it, to have it (and probably me) immediately thrown out. I'll have plenty of time to take it, however
 
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Thorn

Wrecked
Jun 8, 2019
284
Mine came in brown envelope, HDPE bottle, apart from some random markings, nothing special. It can not be stored in a plastic bag, like some sell this in.
With anti-e, it is better to get a script from your GP. Should not be difficult.
 
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Vegrau

Wizard
Nov 27, 2018
665
I'm quite confused about SN. Some say that if you don't ctb (because maybe you didn't take enough or vomited some) you won't suffer any brain damage etc. But if SN takes the oxygen away, surely this will damage your brain? And you'll have some pretty bad lasting effects.

Because meth b are reversible. You can look up on the meth b cure and its processes. Then you will understand why it wont leave lasting damages. You need to know how meth b actually works.
 
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jake3d

Enlightened
May 29, 2019
1,033
Is it possible to get SN and everything else required to take it, in a discreet package, like I've heard N is in? I'm not the one to pick up deliveries and I don't want to be questioned about it, to have it (and probably me) immediately thrown out. I'll have plenty of time to take it, however

If you get SN from the Polish seller on ebay (PM me for link) packaging is very discreet and professional, noone will suspect a thing if they don't open it.
 
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jrums

jrums

Student
Apr 14, 2019
134
Got my SN, got plenty of benzos, now I need a fucking antiemetic! Why is it so hard to find?
 
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jake3d

Enlightened
May 29, 2019
1,033
Because ebay and amazon want you alive so you can BUY BUY BUY MORE! :hihi: If you mention your country some members here might be able to help.
 
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littlelady774

littlelady774

running on empty
Dec 20, 2018
708
I was gonna get my antiemetic from eBay (Motillum). Do you think it's legit?
 
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DownInaHole

DownInaHole

Not so wise
Jan 4, 2019
216
I will take the chance. I will drink plenty of vodka.
 
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Crystal Labeija

Crystal Labeija

Experienced
Jun 3, 2019
216
I will take the chance. I will drink plenty of vodka.

This will only increase the likelihood that you'll vomit. Alcohol by itself is too strong on your stomach.
 
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jrums

Student
Apr 14, 2019
134
I live in New Jersey btw. I found plenty of domperidone though so maybe I'll just get that
 
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jake3d

Enlightened
May 29, 2019
1,033
I was gonna get my antiemetic from eBay (Motillum). Do you think it's legit?

Yes of course it's gonna be legit if you found it. There is little incentive to scam in this area.
 
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jrums

Student
Apr 14, 2019
134
So many Domperidone sellers. Should I go the cheap 30 tablets by Teva from Russia or the more expensive 100 tablets from the USA? Not sure I trust Russia honestly lol
 
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jake3d

Enlightened
May 29, 2019
1,033
Medication from Russia is almost always legit, they can get a lot of stuff OTC (or with connections). But if you live in an EU country there's a bigger risk of your package being inspected/stopped at customs.
 
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jrums

Student
Apr 14, 2019
134
Medication from Russia is almost always legit, they can get a lot of stuff OTC (or with connections). But if you live in an EU country there's a bigger risk of your package being inspected/stopped at customs.
I live in USA. It'll probably get through
 
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jake3d

Enlightened
May 29, 2019
1,033
Well if you're not in a hurry, order from Russia then.
 
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jrums

Student
Apr 14, 2019
134
I ordered the Russian stuff. Says it's from Teva which is a legit pharma company.
 
DownInaHole

DownInaHole

Not so wise
Jan 4, 2019
216
I will still be shitfaced from vodka when I take my SN. That is a risk I'm willing to take.
 
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