Resource SN - A Comprehensive guide including method

[Are you lost too?]

Thank you very much for the guide. I have .5mg klonopin that I take for anxiety. Do you have a recommendation of how much to take and when? I have about five pills left, and I thought it'd be good to take them at the same time as the painkillers.

Also, I read on the megathread that taking too much SN might make you throw up. I have a 30gm bottle of SN, and I'm a very small person. Will taking an extra 10 grams shock my system too much?

In my opinion, I would stick to the 20 grams. After all, 10 grams is a 50% increase. It would only increase the chance of vomiting.

 

[khw777]

In my opinion, I would stick to the 20 grams. After all, 10 grams is a 50% increase. It would only increase the chance of vomiting.

Is 20g of SN 4 teaspoons?

 

[FallenX]

I think I'm gonna trust in the method cause it's my best option.

You can even be saved from N. https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criem/2016/6270491/

 

[khw777]

I think I'm gonna trust in the method cause it's my best option.

You can even be saved from N. https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criem/2016/6270491/

It's a shame we don't have a spouse who is a veterinarian!

 

[9137890]

Is my plan good?

Before: 8 hours fasting
Begin: 25 ml/mg metoclopramide
After 15 min: 20 mg domperidone
After 45 min: 1 tablet natriumhydrogen-, calcium carbonate, 20 drops restaxil
After 60 min: 25 g SN dissolved in 100 ml water

Should I rather use use zantac or no acid reducer? In the wiki stands now to not use an acid reducer, then it's more peaceful. I am a little confused now about the acid reducer. I will use two AV drugs: Don't have the recommended dosage of meto and domperidone helps to decrease acid production too.

 

[BrokenAngel8]

This is very comprehensive and well written, thank you! I have a question. You stated that risperidone could work as antiemetic. How much would I need and is it any less effective? Because I still have plenty of these.

 

[CaptainT]

Is my plan good?

Before: 8 hours fasting
Begin: 25 ml/mg metoclopramide
After 15 min: 20 mg domperidone
After 45 min: 1 tablet natriumhydrogen-, calcium carbonate, 20 drops restaxil
After 60 min: 25 g SN dissolved in 100 ml water

Should I rather use use zantac or no acid reducer? In the wiki stands now to not use an acid reducer, then it's more peaceful. I am a little confused now about the acid reducer. I will use two AV drugs: Don't have the recommended dosage of meto and domperidone helps to decrease acid production too.

I'm also confused about Wiki saying not to use an antacid to make it more peaceful. Because I'm using only domperidone I can't use an antacid. Anyone else going with the plan of just SN and domperidone?

 

[Stan]

I will group together some thoughts on some of the recent questions in the hope they are useful for the wider community.

I am not a doctor and as of today, there is not a doctor (a real one anyway) here to provide medical assistance on particular drugs. People offering advice on altering your existing regimen of drugs prescribed to help reduce the risk of nausea is playing a very dangerous game. If you are already prescribed a drug that has antiemetic properties, stay on the dose prescribed by your doctor. Just make sure that the schedule you create to drink the SN is 1 hour after your regular dose of this drug. Coming off your prescription for a few days could result in you having withdrawal symptoms both physically and psychologically. Why would you want to guarantee 2 bad days of these symptoms in the gamble that Meto (or equivalent) will stop you vomiting. There is no guarantee that meto will prevent you from vomiting.

I described SN in the stomach earlier in this thread. The antacid is there primarily to stop the conversion of SN into other chemical compounds. One of these compounds is regular table salt. Having a large amount of regular salt can produce some stomach discomfort. The minimum dose now recommended (20gm of SN) is well over twice the amount needed to kill you. Even if your stomach converted 1gm of SN into something else, there is a huge amount of SN left to give you the desired effect. So if antacid is a real concern, then don't or use a very simple otc like milk of magnesia which does not interact with prescription drugs. But if members are concerned about taking the antiemetic with antacids then don't take the antacid. It is not the component that kills you.

Can't spell Stan without "SN"

That made me laugh, never thought of that

 

[Daniela]

I will group together some thoughts on some of the recent questions in the hope they are useful for the wider community.

I am not a doctor and as of today, there is not a doctor (a real one anyway) here to provide medical assistance on particular drugs. People offering advice on altering your existing regimen of drugs prescribed to help reduce the risk of nausea is playing a very dangerous game. If you are already prescribed a drug that has antiemetic properties, stay on the dose prescribed by your doctor. Just make sure that the schedule you create to drink the SN is 1 hour after your regular dose of this drug. Coming off your prescription for a few days could result in you having withdrawal symptoms both physically and psychologically. Why would you want to guarantee 2 bad days of these symptoms in the gamble that Meto (or equivalent) will stop you vomiting. There is no guarantee that meto will prevent you from vomiting.

I described SN in the stomach earlier in this thread. The antacid is there primarily to stop the conversion of SN into other chemical compounds. One of these compounds is regular table salt. Having a large amount of regular salt can produce some stomach discomfort. The minimum dose now recommended (20gm of SN) is well over twice the amount needed to kill you. Even if your stomach converted 1gm of SN into something else, there is a huge amount of SN left to give you the desired effect. So if antacid is a real concern, then don't or use a very simple otc like milk of magnesia which does not interact with prescription drugs. But if members are concerned about taking the antiemetic with antacids then don't take the antacid. It is not the component that kills you.

Are you suggesting that the antiemetic regimen is overkill?

 

[Stan]

Is my plan good?

Before: 8 hours fasting
Begin: 25 ml/mg metoclopramide
After 15 min: 20 mg domperidone
After 45 min: 1 tablet natriumhydrogen-, calcium carbonate, 20 drops restaxil
After 60 min: 25 g SN dissolved in 100 ml water

Why are you taking 2 types of AE may I ask? I do not know what restaxil is, it is a German product and I cannot read what it is for.

Are you suggesting that the antiemetic regimen is overkill?

I am suggesting that the whole regimen needs to be questioned against your physical self and how you react to things and whether the regimen suits you. People treat it like a Harry Potter potion recipe that if you do not do the whole regimen you will fail. That is not true!

If someone presented me the list of antiemetic, acid reducer, beta blocker and said I would only take one because all of them together will produce a bad reaction, I would chose the antiemetic every time and forget the rest. It is vital that the SN is in your stomach.

 

[9137890]

Why are you taking 2 types of AE may I ask? I do not know what restaxil is, it is a German product and I cannot read what it is for.

I don't have much meto (just 25 mg/ml), I don't want to use just domperidone because I read it's less effective, it just blocks dopamin and not serotonin and I read that domp has an acid reducing effect too. Restaxil is a new pain kill for the headache.

I'm also confused about Wiki saying not to use an antacid to make it more peaceful. Because I'm using only domperidone I can't use an antacid. Anyone else going with the plan of just SN and domperidone?

Why not? Domperidone needs an half hour to absorption, then I think you can take an anti acid.

 

[FallenX]

I don't have much meto (just 25 mg/ml), I don't want to use just domperidone because I read it's less effective, it just blocks dopamin and not serotonin and I read that domp has an acid reducing effect too. Restaxil is a new pain kill for the headache.


Why not? Domperidone needs an half hour to absorption, then I think you can take an anti acid.

Absorption isn't just 30 mins and done. If you take an antacid within 2 hours of Domperidone it will affect absorption due to lower stomach acid.

 

[9137890]

Absorption isn't just 30 mins and done. If you take an antacid within 2 hours of Domperidone it will affect absorption due to lower stomach acid.

Thanks, I didn't know that, then my anti acid question is not imortant more.

 

[CaptainT]

An example of a SS member who seems to have successfully passed using just domperidone (stat dose) and SN with no antacid is @bubbletea

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-goodbye.23669/#post-434840

Hope it was smooth sailing and a peaceful crossing for them, RIP

 

[FallenX]

An example of a SS member who seems to have successfully passed using just domperidone (stat dose) and SN with no antacid is @bubbletea

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-goodbye.23669/#post-434840

Hope it was smooth sailing and a peaceful crossing for them, RIP

Same for @Crest33 he used omeprazole but no acid reducer

And 99% of cases in media had no acid reducer

 

[9137890]

Is it true that domperidone has an anti acid effect? I read domp is a ppi too.

 

[CaptainT]

Is it true that domperidone has an anti acid effect? I read domp is a ppi too.

Can't find any scientific proof of this. Only that anti acids reduce domperidone effectiveness so should be avoided

 

[9137890]

I don't know. An online pharmacy in the uk, sell this as an anti acid reducer and anti vomiting drug. There stands it also a ppi. I can pm you the link, but it's in german.

 

[Roger]

And 99% of cases in media had no acid reducer

Maybe the meejah just didn't report all the fine detail of subsidiary drugs.

 

[FallenX]

Maybe the meejah just didn't report all the fine detail of subsidiary drugs.

I highly doubt every single SN case in the news are keen readers of the PPH every month

 

[Are you lost too?]

Is 20g of SN 4 teaspoons?

If you search for tablespoon on the forum you will find some correlations made from some users. But this is very subjective, which country are they on, how much of the tablespoon was filled etc. so I wouldn't rely on that.
The best option would be to use a kitchen scale, it's not expensive at all.

 

[LMFAO FOCKERS]

Next time any news outlet reports on a sodium nitrAte death, I'm going to refer them to you as our Resident Expert.

 

[trynacbt]

Next time any news outlet reports on a sodium nitrAte death, I'm going to refer them to you as our Resident Expert.

You sure you don't mean ElizaEliza??

 

[LMFAO FOCKERS]

You sure you don't mean ElizaEliza??

Nah, I meant @Stan. He's coming BIG TIME with the SN info here! All untruths debunked, including news outlets intentionally or unintentionally misreporting the substance too!

 

[Stan]

Nah, I meant @Stan. He's coming BIG TIME with the SN info here! All untruths debunked, including news outlets intentionally or unintentionally misreporting the substance too!

Had some nice pm from members saying they found it useful. Sadly I think it will disappear in time and the same old routine will start again.

 

[trynacbt]

Had some nice pm from members saying they found it useful. Sadly I think it will disappear in time and the same old routine will start again.

Why hasn't it been pinned and locked yet?

 

[Daniela]

I'm also grateful for the free accessible information and the kindness

 

[trynacbt]

You sure you don't mean ElizaEliza??

To be clear, this was a joke

 

[BlueWidow]

Stan,

I just made myself a physical copy of all the initial information at the beginning of this thread so that I can reference it when I'm offline.

I just wanted to say thank you again for doing such thorough research and making it available to all of us here. I know I'm one of many who sincerely appreciate all your efforts and hard work, as well as your kindness and sharing it with all of us.

I know you may have been getting some flak recently because you've been trying to expose people who are attempting to spread false information about SN. There may also be those who do not understand or appreciate your sense of humor. I, however, am not one of those people. As I've stated many times before, I haven't laughed as much in years as I have since I came onto this forum and much of that laughter was provided by your delightfully wicked sense of humor.

So, thank you again Stan for the research, the kind and sage advice, and providing me with moments of laughter and frivolity that I probably couldn't have found anywhere else at this point in my life.

Peace.

 

[khw777]

Stan,

I just made myself a physical copy of all the initial information at the beginning of this thread so that I can reference it when I'm offline.

I just wanted to say thank you again for doing such thorough research and making it available to all of us here. I know I'm one of many who sincerely appreciate all your efforts and hard work, as well as your kindness and sharing it with all of us.

I know you may have been getting some flak recently because you've been trying to expose people who are attempting to spread false information about SN. There may also be those who do not understand or appreciate your sense of humor. I, however, am not one of those people. As I've stated many times before, I haven't laughed as much in years as I have since I came onto this forum and much of that laughter was provided by your delightfully wicked sense of humor.

So, thank you again Stan for the research, the kind and sage advice, and providing me with moments of laughter and frivolity that I probably couldn't have found anywhere else at this point in my life.

Peace.

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