it seems that I had no choice by doing it using SN because I could not find N . As much as I understood from these topic . it will not be a very peacful death but it may be the only chance for me to end my life . I read in these topics that I can buy it from ebay . What is the full name of the product that I should look for ? is there any complication (like scammer , like ceasing in custom ) if I want to buy in online?
Othermind
Specialist
- Dec 26, 2018
- 301
It came last week in a plastic bag sealed by a rubber band inside a plastic jar. Totally not air tight.
I bought it on inpulse , I don't have immediate plans. What do I do?
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Crystal Labeija
Experienced
- Jun 3, 2019
- 216
Fasting regimen: is it 8 hours? I've haven't had any food in 12 hours and hoping to take the SN around midnight. It's currently 2pm where I'm at which, means, I should abstain from all food by 3 pm. I just feel like having something might decrease the chance of vomiting, or am I wrong?
Think you can get buccastem otc. Not sure how strong it is compared to prescription ones, it's also a dissolve in mouth tablet rather than swallow, which to me seems like to much of a hassle if you've got to take a large amount
reapandsow918
Let the waves take me
- Nov 6, 2019
- 191
How painful is this method? Does unconsciousness set in quick thus preventing you from feeling pain? Planning to use this method.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
8 hours is the maximum recommended
EndItQuickly
Member
- Oct 30, 2019
- 88
I body weight factored in to this? Like 160 pound man would take the same amount as a 220 pound man?
Edit: Of course I ask the question that @Stan literally answered in the same page...lol
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Crystal Labeija
Experienced
- Jun 3, 2019
- 216
I think tonight will be my night. I have my SN, meto, antacid, and pain killer. I will also be drinking two beers to alleviate the anxiety. I know that alcohol is not recommended, but I can't do this without alleviating the anxiety. I highly doubt 5 - 10 tablets of Xanax will be less vomit inducing than two bottles of beer. I'm also alcohol dependent and my body needs it to survive. I'm currently working on final drafts of suicide notes. I've tested and tried scheduled emails and it works. I'll be mailing some, and emailing some. I can't stop thinking about what will happen next, but the beer will do the trick. It's definitely easier to plan than to actually do it.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
Sad to see you go, that's selfish of me. Hope you have a peaceful journey and thanks for being who you are. You are a great member. You should do a goodbye thread
Crystal Labeija
Experienced
- Jun 3, 2019
- 216
Hi Stan,
I'm definitely doing a goodbye thread. You know much how of a struggle SI is, so It has to be one hundred percent before I make a thread. I believe that one beer should do it. I'm currently printing the notes, stamping the envelopes and testing the solubility of SN (I bought one back in August, but left it on the kitchen counter for too long. I was worried about light exposure so I purchased another and kept it in the cabinet).
Funny how you mention a goodbye thread because I was going to give you a shoutout haha. You're one of my favorite members here.
deltahead
Student
- May 28, 2019
- 160
1. is fasting absolutely essential for a successful exist? i know it's strongly advised, but do you think someone could hypothetically do without it? i'm assuming obviously not, but really would like to believe otherwise considering how my living situation makes it impossible to fast.
2. assuming one survives their attempt accidentally, by suddenly waking up from a bout of unconsciousness or puking everything up, is it possible to "recover" from SN poisoning on your own, without professional medical help? could your body flush it out by itself with time? maybe the dizziness would subside eventually and it'd become clear you aren't going to die. guess that would depend on how bad it's gotten.
i know these questions are strange and likely stupid, but if anyone here could humor me i'd be thankful
2. assuming one survives their attempt accidentally, by suddenly waking up from a bout of unconsciousness or puking everything up, is it possible to "recover" from SN poisoning on your own, without professional medical help? could your body flush it out by itself with time? maybe the dizziness would subside eventually and it'd become clear you aren't going to die. guess that would depend on how bad it's gotten.
i know these questions are strange and likely stupid, but if anyone here could humor me i'd be thankful
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
Only thing essential in the whole thing is drinking and keeping the SN down.
It is possible. The sensible thing would be to call for medical assistance.
deltahead
Student
- May 28, 2019
- 160
DyslexicForeigner
Student
- Dec 27, 2018
- 135
"Anywhere between 40 minutes and 4 hours depending on your health and natural metabolism."
Hey @Stan, does taking Propranolol beforehand can hasten/speed up the SN dying process?
Hey @Stan, does taking Propranolol beforehand can hasten/speed up the SN dying process?
I almost ordered everything and I just need Antacid. Does any one know what i the name of the medicine that I need and if it is possible to buy it without prescription?
deltahead
Student
- May 28, 2019
- 160
this is a big field near my city. it's totally empty, there's some tall grass here and there. it's obviously not secluded, but out of desperation or stupidity i've begun to seriously consider this as a location for my SN exit. there's a big, horseshoe-shaped sidewalk to the right, and a bunch of buildings behind it. no one ever goes around there much but if they did they would have easy time seeing me, unless i move farther away. i also don't know if it's private property or something, but that's a minor concern. i don't know what to think. i could go around searching for other spots like this but i don't know if there are any, and aimlessly walking around like a dumbass usually doesn't bring good results. but i can't do it at home, either. can't get any privacy, anywhere. this would all be considerably easier if my SN didn't expire next march. i don't know if i should even bother, but the anxiety tells me i should.
Just go to a pharmacy and ask for antacid. There's no need for prescription.
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Roger
I Liked Ike
- May 11, 2019
- 972
Not any old antacid. Proton pump inhibitors are supposed to be avoided. Can't remember why, but it's definitely in these pages somewhere. Maybe a post from the much missed @jake3d
"Nitrite reduced systolic blood pressure by a maximum of 6±1.3 mm Hg when taken after placebo, whereas pretreatment with esomeprazole [a PPI] blunted this effect...We conclude that the acute blood pressure–lowering effect of nitrite requires an acidic gastric environment."
"PPIs increase blood pressure"
"Direct administration of nitrite to humans or animals has demonstrated many similar effects as nitrate, including protection against ischemia–reperfusion injury and vasodilatory, antihypertensive, and metabolic effects."
"Pretreatment with esomeprazole did not significantly alter blood pressure measured before intake of sodium nitrite."
"Nitrite ingestion resulted in an acute lowering effect of systolic blood pressure when taken after pretreatment with placebo. The drop was maximal at 15 minutes after nitrite ingestion and gradually returned to basal values during the 2-hour observation period.
In contrast, when the volunteers instead were pretreated with esomeprazole, sodium nitrite induced no significant change in systolic blood pressure. At the dose used, sodium nitrite induced no significant changes in diastolic blood pressure with either of the 2 pretreatments."
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Cardiovascular effects of H2-receptor antagonists - PubMed
The type II histamine receptor antagonists, cimetidine and ranitidine, widely used in treatment of peptic ulcer disease have been reported to cause bradycardia. To evaluate the cardiovascular effects of H2 antagonists nineteen healthy volunteers were entered into a double-blind crossover...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"The type II histamine receptor antagonists, cimetidine and ranitidine, widely used in treatment of peptic ulcer disease have been reported to cause bradycardia... in 5 subjects, the heart rate at 25% maximum VO2 was depressed 8% (P less than or equal to 0.03)."
Bolus Injection of Cimetidine and Hypotension in Patients in the Intensive Care Unit
• Incidence and mechanisms of cimetidine-induced hypotension were investigated during the first intravenous injection of cimetidine (200 mg over three minutes) in 68 consecutive patients in the intensive care unit. Systolic pressure decreased more than 5 mm Hg (average, 14 mm Hg) in 50 patients,...
jamanetwork.com
"Blood pressure decreased significantly more in patients requiring vasoconstrictor drug support. The arterial vasodilator properties of cimetidine were demonstrated in 12 normal volunteers in whom brachial artery cimetidine infusions caused a significant decrease of forearm vascular resistance."
(intravenous administration)
"Ondansetron [an antiemetic] and ranitidine both can cause bradycardia and cardiac arrest"
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So even if H2Bs raise gastric PH, shouldn't be a big deal, as long as stomach is empty... I think ("We conclude that the acute blood pressure–lowering effect of nitrite requires an acidic gastric environment.")
TBH This is weird because histamine antagonist should counter histamine effects, i.e. vasodilation. I understand that works when H1Bs and H2Bs are used in combination
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In sum:
PPIs raise blood pressure, while Nitrite lowers it. PPIs blunt Nitrite's effects.
H2Bs blockers (Cimetidine, Rinatidine) lower blood pressure, according to some sources (including when taken with an antiemetic, judging by that one study)
I suppose this goes against @Stan who pointed out that when you ingest poison voluntarily you want the blood to pump faster, not the other way around.
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@Stan I've read about the process but have a brain cns injury due to benzo withdrawal and specifically being paradoxical to them. I'm electric and burning all day every day and my gut has major issues. I fear this won't work bc my systems aren't working like a normal person. Would this be true?
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
MeltingHeart
Visionary
- Sep 9, 2019
- 2,151
check the leading online market places...seek & yee shall find (with a but of luck)
Once you get PM access, you can PM someone and they may be able to point you in the right direction.
( PM = personal message, a bit like sending someone an email )
You need to make a few more posts before you have access to it.
You can make some posts in some of the "games" threads (see "offtopic" section).
It might also take a day or two to get the access.
Once you have PM access, when you hover the mouse pointer over a user name, then you will see a "start conversation" button….
letmeseethedeath
catching the bus
- Aug 4, 2018
- 465
The benzo injury has impacted every system so even absorbing nutrients and food is not happening. I'm paradoxical to the whole class and burn from head to toe. My stools are completely messed up as well and I'm only able to eat smoothies for food since this started. I just fear the SN won't work bc I'm electric and it's impacted every system. I need some peace and relief though.
Sorry if this has been answered already. My SN has just arrived but it looks like it's been opened by the customs so it's not sealed anymore. How slowly does it take for nitrite to turn into nitrate? So far I've only read that it does so "slowly" but it's all relative I guess, would be great to know at least a somewhat accurate term
MeltingHeart
Visionary
- Sep 9, 2019
- 2,151
Can I take 5mg meto each time instead of 10mg since it is said that taking more than 0.5mg/kg daily could cause EPS, which for me is about 25mg daily, and then take 10 mg for the final dose
