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Yeah of course
I've spoken about it a few times here, but I'm more than happy to share it publicly:
Hmm, if you weren't found by your partner then you definitely would've ctb by the sounds of it. What were your general thoughts during all this or were you unconscious at any point? 80 stats means that you weren't far from death either considering the Methomoglobinemia levels approaching 70% which is medically around the fatal level.
I was quite scared but still determined, I knew if I could just make it to pass out then I wouldn't feel any pain and wouldn't wake up. After I went unconscious I didn't wake up until I was treated as far as I'm aware.
Did you vomit after taking the SN? If yes, do you recall how long you lasted without vomitting?
Were you conscious when you started to have your seizures? Did you feel any significant pain and/ or anxiety?
Were you not in a separate room from your partner when you took the SN? I assume it was quite noisy? This is a big concern I have.
Was this after you started getting Tachycardia which would've been 20 or so after ingesting SN? How long were you out for you if you do recall.
I guess it depends, it depends how fast medical intervention is and how long after the ingestion of SN.
Yeap, so do I. So you heard it through your own ears? That's gotta be unnerving to not only feel it but hear it. If you had a heart attack then you were definitely close to death but you narrowly got saved because they had the bottle of sn and knew how to treat you, whose to say what would've been the outcome had they not found the sn bottle near you.
I didn't vomit, the meto probably helped quite a lot, but I'm also used to suppressing my gag reflex. The fasting for 48h also probably prevented it too.
I must have been out about 1.30 hours or slightly more, the hospital wasn't too far from where I lived.
wish I wasn't found though, because I'm right back at the same spot
Haha, that emoji says a lot then about your general feeling. Well, unfortunately that's the risk you took when you ctb with someone around. Sometimes people don't get found despite having people around while other times, you get found like what happened in your case. Flip of the coin really.I can imagine what would happen if I wasn't found
Yeah that's another one that helped you survive, being that close to a hospital and that you got forunate they had methelyne blue on hand. Were you given a normal dose of around 2mg/kg or more?
Woah, usually people think meto wouldn't work regardless to suppress vomiting but it also come down to how easily sick someone can get and in your case, suppressing your gag reflex worked. Yeah maybe fasting for two straight days worked in your case too.
How painful on a scale of 1-10 and did you go unconscious soon after the seizures.
Are you saying you did it IN THE SAME ROOM as your partner or did you do it in the same room and then move to a different one and then they found you.
How long do you estimate it took you to reach unconsciousness after ingesting the SN? I had never read a SN account like yours where the person is still conscious throughtout convulsions. I find this odd, it's supposed to knock you out before.
In retrospect, had you been laying in a bed in a separate room, do you think the convulsions/seizures would have still woken up your partner? Did you shout and scream during the seizures or was it mostly a silent process?
Gotta remember that everyone's different regardless of how well you prepare for this method to use. Some people will be unconscious even quicker thanks to something like benzos while others, it may take a little longer. You need to spend more time looking through this forum to get a good understanding of just how differently sn can effect people. Not everyone gets knocked out inside 20 mins, if you want to get that then benzos or some kind of sedative will help with that.
Sounds like quite the ordeal. Do you think if you weren't found you would have passed away?
I think judging by what OP shared with oxygen stats being below 80% and the Methomoglobinemia at 60% then I have no doubt op would've ctb if their partner did not find them, I still don't get why op did it in the same room as their partner though.
op outlined that it worked alongside meto and a quite lengthy fasting period. They didn't say suppressing the gag reflex worked alone to prevent vomiting.
Whose to say if it would because I'm not sure general otc painkillers like acetaminophen would've helped with seizures, thats usually what benzos like Diazepam can help with. Also, going to bed and waiting to pass out is one thing but having to deal with the onset of symptoms before passing out is another.
I'm sorry but that is not correct. Most people go unconscious in under 15 minutes without benzos, most people do not take them. Please look at the chart I posted and with pure SN this is almost universal. Maybe on occasion it MAY vary. This is without benzos. You can almost set your watch at the 12 minute mark I noticed in the past.
I think you're ignoring other factors such as metabolism, pre-existing health issues that may delay absorption or and if the sn is even kept down long enough for which a majority of people vomit soon after ingestion so how can that be universal in terms of how long it takes to to go unconscious. Also, this chart doesn't exactly help either since it's usually not what happens and we both know that, we've seen people take longer to go unconscious but is that reason to question if their SN they was used pure.
Hi. Do I understand correctly that when you talk about painful seizures, you mean the condition when the muscles are very cramped? So it really hurts, right? ((I didn't vomit, the meto probably helped quite a lot, but I'm also used to suppressing my gag reflex. The fasting for 48h also probably prevented it too.
I was conscious for all the seizures, they were painful and I felt quite worn out, and definitely had body aches for about a week after.
I was in the same room, tried to get out to a different room and ended up collapsing from nausea.
I must have been out about 1.30 hours or slightly more, the hospital wasn't too far from where I lived.
I can imagine what would happen if I wasn't found
It's universal that people go unconscious with very pure SN at around 12 minutes. That's how long it takes. You have not been here long but I have and because you are uninformed I am simply correcting your wrong information. Yes it definitely IS what happens. Sorry you don't know that but now you do. The chart is 100% correct.
If seizures happen, which usually don't happen but might go on for a minute or two they are unconscious.
So you're saying regardless of those factors including vomiting which happens a majority of the time, it's universal that people will go unconscious within 12 mins after ingesting pure sn?
Yes and yes. I've been here starting over three years ago when people all were able to get very pure SN and seen it dozens of times as people were streaming their experiences taking SN. In your case, it's the Dunning - Kruger effect, you don't know something and don't realize that you don't know it.
So anything I say or do will be corrected by you because you've been here longer if you feel that I'm misinformed.
Ok I don't doubt that Mg but we can't ignore people who have had the factors I mentioned be a disruptor in that process. Also when you mean streaming, do you mean you watched this happened or you just witnessed it on a gb thread?
So I dont know what I'm talking about because I don't know it but you do and that makes you right, is that it?
Ok but is that what's so different from 3 years ago, that the sn now is less pure? How can you prove that?
So what you're saying is everything changed after the NY times article came out? So how did it change from then till now, were all the more pure sn sources taken down which made getting pure sn harder to obtain, leaving people with the only the less pure sn?
If you look at sadworld's profile and see how he only took 2 or 3 grams of SN on impulse and died you will see that SN is very deadly, works fast, and not the iffy thing people are saying it is now. He took nothing with it. He mentioned a headache and being dizzy then said I might die, and was gone. I have no idea why now everything is different unless they aren't getting as pure SN as before.
You are right that it usually takes 15 min but you can't ignore the fact that many people do not pass out at that time. Some even go several hours before passing out or not passing out at all so to say that the sn experience is universal is wrong. Everyone has a different physiology and thus may react differently to the substance
This is the point I'm trying to get at. How can it be universal when it is not a matter of fact that people pass out within 12 mins. But here's mg saying because she's been here longer than me, it makes her right. I find that to be quite unnecessary you ask me. Just because you've been here for a while, doesn't mean you're right just because of that even though I respect the fact that you've seen more than I have on this forum.
Honestly if that's the case then I understand it but for how people's reactions may be different with this sn, I don't see benzos being something of a luxury and leaning more towards something to consider getting. @Meditation guide does that mean those who don't pass out within 12-15 mins took sn that was pure enough?
