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I'm not totally familiar with it yet, but in PPEH (2022), some data are linked to a source but this table is not. They state it's a "typical timeline" but that sounds very theoretical to me. Especially regarding the timestamp of a procedure leading to death in a book specificaly discussing the very means to end one's life... Again, I haven't read it completely so maybe this concern is addressed somewhere else.
Have you seen the video recordings where people died after taking sodium nitrite? I don't know if I understood the text that the translator program translated for me correctly
The Essentials (2022) as found in the sticky thread "PPH Essentials 2022".
Sorry, I've been in a mental health ward the past few days so no replies.
The seizures were virtually silent, it's because I was on the floor near a wall, we had a cat that was interested in what was going on. The reason I'd avoid a straw is due to how salty it is, it's better just to chug and get it over with.
Definitely, without a doubt.
The meto prevented me throwing up, I also have bulimia and throw up frequently any way, always had an issue with it so I'm not sure if that helped, but it wasn't the case that I felt like throwing up and suppressed it, I just didn't feel like throwing up.
The right hand side of your stomach has the gastric folds which increases surface area, similar to the cristae of the mitochondria. Also the opening of the duodenum, so absorption is faster.
My plan was far from perfect, I've had time to reflect, going to bed would have been the smart move, but I can't change that I didn't. If I had gone to bed though the seizures still would have happened and I'd have an even higher chance of waking then up.
This is either inaccurate or there are outliers, baring in mind I was dying so time may not have been as I perceived it, it may have been less time, I wasn't laying there counting. I also have a photo that I took of myself cyanotic as I wanted to see how quickly it would be taking affect, it states on your table comes after unconsciousness, so I know for a fact that it can't be 100% accurate. I don't know if it would make a big difference, but I'm healthy, and do sports that require me to hold my breath upwards of 4-5 minutes, which may have prevented unconsciousness due to lack of oxygen. I won't go into detail though because people I know check this site and may be able to identify me based off of it, same reason I won't post that selfie as proof, but I may be able to find other photos I took during that time.
Through what I'm reading from others my account makes it sound more painful, it is not as painful as cramps. I've had leg cramps, stomach cramps and period cramps, I would say it was less painful than all of those.
I mention earlier in this reply I do throw up after every meal I have, but nit after drinking liquids, this is involuntary and I am being looked into for absorption issues as I am anaemic without clear reason and have also got a history of hypocalcemia.
I can see you've been here since 2020, I've been on this site since 2019 on older accounts that were discovered by my family, I have seen accounts of people staying conscious longer and to put a general blanket statement to the process and metabolisation of a poisonous chemical is short sighted and dangerous.
Thank you, this is simply cannot be applied to be universal at all.
Hmm, from the sounds of it, it really sounded painful but since I've been through the absolute worst of stomach cramps then this really doesn't concern me much.
For what it's worth, you did what you could considering your circumstances.
I'm out of the ward now, they're actually letting me keep my sn as long as I tell them when it arrives :) I was quite surprised, the police got me to cancel my initial order, but I've just re-ordered it
Wait what? They're letting you keep your sn. So doesn't that mean they'll take it from you once you get it, I'm really shocked they are fine with it.
They'll probably try their hardest to convince me to get rid of it, but I want it and it's a comfort, I've explained that it's more comforting to have a way out than to be completely without it
Alright I guess that's why they'd let you keep it, as a means of comfort but they may still try to take it off your hands.
So do not all hospitals to stock methylene blue? I'm just thinking about the worst case scenario of somehow being found as I live with others and my home is very close to a hospital (like 5 minutes close). But I live in a fairly small town and I'm curious how prepared staff would be to recognize methemoglobinemia/SN poisoning.
Bigger hospitals usually do have it in stock but I'm not sure if it may be the case all the time. Living in a fairly small town sounds like they might not have methelyne blue in stock and may have to outsource it from another hospital should they not have enough or have none at all although time is of the essence with sn, it's literally a life or death situation so any delay in getting treated with Methelyne blue may cause death.
It's not likely all will stock methylene blue, it was a main hospital in one of the main UK cities so they had it on hand
I imported it from Poland, message me for the source, I had the police round earlier this week for unrelated reasons, still ctb related but not sn. They informed me after finding out that I ordered it that the couriers are required to inform the police when it's ordered.
Yeah, it's not illegal in the UK so importing should be fine as long as its marked correctly, you may get a welfare check but those are unwarranted and you can just tell them no, like I said, not illegal so no crime committed, police have no authority except if you're on probation
Wow.... thank you for taking your time to reply to my bit as well in your lengthy write up. I am sorry for how this turned out for you. Just like Goku said, I feel like there are no questions left to ask, and I hope however you choose to proceed from here onwards, things go your way.
That was not the case three years ago. You don't realize that. I have no explanation why it happens now when it never happened 3 years ago when every week we had people passing out within 15 minutes. Always the same timing. There was a LOT of a certain brand sold on Amazon people were buying. It had a good reputation and I assume that was the reason. Purity. If it's very pure then individual physiology doesn't matter. There is a pic of that brand here in this story:
No i've never seen anyone take it but people wrote goodby threads here and told how they felt as they took it and what happened.
I'll post photos of the sn itself, as well as blood test and test strips. Its from a chemical company so advertised as 99%< pure.
There's growing evidence that I may have absorption issues within my stomach which may have been a big factor in it. I can't speak for others but it may be the case for me.
Wait what do you mean by this? Is this why it possibly took you a little longer to pass out.
I have a history of hypocalcemia despite my diet being good and including dairy (this was in the past), I have anaemia despite eating foods that are rich in iron and when I have been put on oral meds that require my blood to be tested the levels are always a lot lower than they should be. I've also been on anyipsychotics and sleeping pills which lasted significantly longer than they should.
So there may have been a significant delay considering all these factors, I have none of these at all except for the heart issues that I have, I don't think there should be any issue in delay of absorption especially due to fasting. These were factors that I talked about, there can't be the claim that its universal that it takes 12 mins for someone to go unconscious after ingesting sn
You need to make up your mind because here is what you said in another thread:
That is definitely true. After what we've seen on accounts of people who've taken SN, a lot of their experiences are much in the same with vision going blurry from hypotension and feeling weak just 12-15 mins or so after taking sn.
Look, what's wrong with me changing my mind when I've reevaluated what I know and realized i was wrong. Just as @AnonymousRobin said, which is:
I think this holds up quite well. We also haven't observed what happens to people after they stop responding to the goodbye thread either, what if they could still be partially conscious after the point we think they've lost unconsciousness, that doesn't quite fit the 12-15 min mark. I made the mistake of thinking that people will experience those symptoms all within the same length of time and will go unconscious with 15 mins but I realized that it isn't always true. This is why I've opted for benzos for myself, to counteract anxiety should there be any and promote a sedative effect at a high dose because I still have a considerably weak tolerance. Apart from the few observed sn ctb cases like @Stubbe and @LetzteAusfahrt, we don't have much knowledge of what happens just because someone stops typing in a goodbye thread, sure that may indicate the inability to focus but beyond that, can you really claim its universal that one will lose unconscious within that time frame and does that even include if they vomit all of the sn solution they drank?
