Removal of N from M from PPeH

[6MillionWaystoDie]

For the exorbitant prices these pph souces charge one could probably source it themselves via personal trip. Sure, not as convenient but definitely more fun and with more certainty. At least the possibility of being scammed is diminished.

 

[rationaltake]

For the exorbitant prices these pph souces charge one could probably source it themselves via personal trip. Sure, not as convenient but definitely more fun and with more certainty. At least the possibility of being scammed is diminished.

I wish I was up to it but I struggle to motivate myself to get out of bed nowadays. I did quite a few trips to Mexico in the past. It would have been possible to obtain it then I think.

The PPeH reports that it's more and more difficult to obtain in Latin American countries now. Speaking Spanish would be a real advantage I'd think.

Afaik there aren't any PPeH sources atm.

 

[Fire&Ash]

Do you think the site will update us when it is available again? I would like to find a thread here when it is

 

[Dayrain]

Yes, there will be further posts if the situation changes.

 

[Euthanza]

You do realize that Nembutal (and other powerful barbiturates) was available as a sleeping pill back in the days? To get it, it was just as easy as today's ordering a pizza. This BS argument against AS and making reliable, peaceful options available comes mainly from pro-lifers. Anything can be used for any of the scenarios you mentioned.
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Now, stop chewing pro-lifers arguments and imagine yourself having a walk to the nearest pharmacy and buy 15 grams of N with the equivalent of 35 swiss francs or something...

Also this; First aid kit with 7 glass ampoules with ether, cocaine, morphine & caffeine, France 1900-1910. It was better life before

 

[mondoCruel]

I wish I was up to it but I struggle to motivate myself to get out of bed nowadays. I did quite a few trips to Mexico in the past. It would have been possible to obtain it then I think.

The PPeH reports that it's more and more difficult to obtain in Latin American countries now. Speaking Spanish would be a real advantage I'd think.

Afaik there aren't any PPeH sources atm.

Anyone knows what is the status of vet N production? Has it restarted yet?

 

[nozomu]

Anyone knows what is the status of vet N production? Has it restarted yet?

People have received vet N, but from these illicit sources no one knows what the dates of manufacture is

 

[mondoCruel]

People have received vet N, but from these illicit sources no one knows what the dates of manufacture is

Ok, I don't think trying to source it yourself is worth the effort without confirmation of normal distribution

 

[Talvikki]

Anyone knows what is the status of vet N production? Has it restarted yet?

Yes!
There is no shortage of N.

There is Adequate supply.
There are just no reliable (black market) sellers at the moment.

Because of an explosion and fire in december 2020, at a pharmaceutical factory in Taiwan, a worldwide shortage of pentobarbital began to occur.



In 2021, pentobarbital was added to a drug shortage list, and veterinary practices were restricted to ordering only a small amount at a time, based on purchase history.

According to The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), by now there is Adequate supply.

Source
https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/resolved-animal-drug-shortages

 

[sunshiningbackwards]

This is such a god damn shame. I actually do have access to a vet pharmacy but it would require a no-turning-back kind of approach to acquiring the nembutal and going for it. And it's a few states away. But if I got there in person I'm 100% certain I could get it and go unnoticed for at least 24 hours if not more

 

[chopan]

Where was this deleted source located? China?

@rationaltake Getting N in south america is almost as impossible as anywhere else. I speak spanish, I read local newspaper, the stores are aware that when someone want to buy N without prescription it is most likely that they had suicidal plans so they can't sell it without getting into problems, no matter what language you speak. The only possibility is to come across a "drug dealer" that has access to some corrupted dude and can get it but it is not possible to come into a store and offers 100 bucks to the first store clerk you talk to. They are not stupid, they know they would get into troubles.

 

[John12]

Why was the Chinese N powder thread deleted?

Was it a scam or something?

 

[rationaltake]

Where was this deleted source located? China?

@rationaltake Getting N in south america is almost as impossible as anywhere else. I speak spanish, I read local newspaper, the stores are aware that when someone want to buy N without prescription it is most likely that they had suicidal plans so they can't sell it without getting into problems, no matter what language you speak. The only possibility is to come across a "drug dealer" that has access to some corrupted dude and can get it but it is not possible to come into a store and offers 100 bucks to the first store clerk you talk to. They are not stupid, they know they would get into troubles.

Yes. I get the impression that the days are long gone when it would be worth a trip to South America to source N. Sigh...

 

[Talvikki]

@rationaltake @chopan

This is stated on the website of Exit International:

April 2023 PPeH Essentials Update

COMING SOON
NEWS FROM SOUTH AMERICA

Planning a Trip to South America?

The Shopping is Good

The forthcoming April update to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook Essentials edition will bring news from recent field research in Sth America.

This news is a welcome relief as it is a lawful alternative that renders real results.

 

[rationaltake]

@rationaltake @chopan

This is stated on the website of Exit International:

April 2023 PPeH Essentials Update

COMING SOON
NEWS FROM SOUTH AMERICA

Planning a Trip to South America?

The Shopping is Good

The forthcoming April update to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook Essentials edition will bring news from recent field research in Sth America.

This news is a welcome relief as it is a lawful alternative that renders real results.

Thanks! That's good to know.

 

[John12]

Don't want it to look like this is spam, but what about the Chinese thread?

 

[Talvikki]

Why was the Chinese N powder thread deleted?

Was it a scam or something?

There was a supplier of N powder who went by the name "Johnson" and remained active for a few years before dropping out.

 

[John12]

There was a supplier of N powder who went by the name "Johnson" and remained active for a few years before dropping out.

There was a new thread here about a supposed Chinese supplier, maybe two days ago

But that thread quite quickly got deleted...?

 

[nozomu]

There was a new thread here about a supposed Chinese supplier, maybe two days ago

But that thread quite quickly got deleted...?

There are DNMs that have listings, but no one has sprung for it afaik.

 

[intr0verse]

I think anything that comes from China these days are either scams or old stock (they've unlawfully kept). A few years ago chinese authorities have changed the status of N from a simple chemical (mostly used as reagent) which most chemical companies were allowed to manufacture to a narcotic pharmaceutical that requires a special license to manufacture. That's the tipical answer i got from all chinese companies i've enquired for N, some of which did sell N in the past.

 

[mondoCruel]

Where was this deleted source located? China?

@rationaltake Getting N in south america is almost as impossible as anywhere else. I speak spanish, I read local newspaper, the stores are aware that when someone want to buy N without prescription it is most likely that they had suicidal plans so they can't sell it without getting into problems, no matter what language you speak. The only possibility is to come across a "drug dealer" that has access to some corrupted dude and can get it but it is not possible to come into a store and offers 100 bucks to the first store clerk you talk to. They are not stupid, they know they would get into troubles.

People are just abusing the same locations

 

[John12]

If a reliable person buys N powder and tests that it's real and pure, tell us here.

For how long after being manufactured is N powder usable for?

 

[nozomu]

If a reliable person buys N powder and tests that it's real and pure, tell us here.

For how long after being manufactured is N powder usable for?

PN of Exit says 20 years if stored correctly.

 

[John12]

PN of Exit says 20 years if stored correctly.

If we can find a supplier of real N powder that means it should work. What do you think the chances of a supplier being found soon are?

 

[intr0verse]

What do you think the chances of a supplier being found soon are?

Very close to zero....

 

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

If we can find a supplier of real N powder that means it should work. What do you think the chances of a supplier being found soon are?

Following

 

[Diacon]

Anyone from forum 50+ knows any news about N?

 

[mia_qwerty]

Unfortunately M has been removed from PPeH. You should consider yourself scammed if you placed an order.

Shared from Exit forums:

Bad news - post from Philip Nitschke on PPeH forum:

Removal of N supplier from PPeH

Too many reports of non-response or delivery by 'M',

Removed from eHandbook and added to the NembutalScams website www.nembutalscams.com

Is it possible to get N in the UK? I tried but got scammed

 

[nozomu]

Is it possible to get N in the UK? I tried but got scammed

You can only get it from DNMs right now, and that isn't verified.

 

[mia_qwerty]

You can only get it from DNMs right now, and that isn't verified.

Thanks for reply, can you elaborate? What's DNM's? Is that in UK?