Is anyone else an escort?

[clownangel]

House Moms Hahahahahahaah!!!

Forget them!

I've worked both where it's optional-but-expected, and where they won't let you out of the dressing room at the end of the night if you don't tip out. Never a dull moment, club management is like the Wild West even in "nicer" ones I swear.

(....Also sorry for derailing with stripclub banter. I was thinking earlier I don't miss the job much but I do miss some of the girls I worked with, definitely just miss being in the company of others that "get it". Working a bad shift with someone is like trauma bonding on steroids lmao.)

 

[Spitfire]

I've worked both where it's optional-but-expected, and where they won't let you out of the dressing room at the end of the night if you don't tip out. Never a dull moment, club management is like the Wild West even in "nicer" ones I swear.

(....Also sorry for derailing with stripclub banter. I was thinking earlier I don't miss the job much but I do miss some of the girls I worked with, definitely just miss being in the company of others that "get it". Working a bad shift with someone is like trauma bonding on steroids lmao.)

Thank you. I realize I am speaking out of turn. Sorry

 

[Deleted member 22624]

... "in an environment like the UK..."? Oh come on, I can think of worse places. She's an escort, not a street walker!

I don't think you know the dangers. Exploitation is not uncommon, plus the rest. If it's not a well managed industry like in Europe I think it's just a dangerous occupation. Btw she said herself she wouldn't be able to live on just 5 clients. I think she's just as entitled to UC as someone with kids or a disability

 

[Weightoftheworld]

I would escort every weekend or every other weekend because it's great easy money but now I'm constantly turning it down because it took such a toll on my mental health and how I felt about myself, the money just isn't always worth it.

 

[x~Sophia~x]

I don't think you know the dangers. Exploitation is not uncommon, plus the rest. If it's not a well managed industry like in Europe I think it's just a dangerous occupation. Btw she said herself she wouldn't be able to live on just 5 clients. I think she's just as entitled to UC as someone with kids or a disability

5 clients = 5 hours a month!

 

[Deleted member 22624]

5 clients = 5 hours a month!

If she's here, I think we can let it slide? I don't think selling one's body is anyone's first choice if it wasn't for the high pay which confirms to me it's still exploitation and anyone finding themselves in this industry needs protection from having to do it at all

 

[x~Sophia~x]

If she's here, I think we can let it slide? I don't think selling one's body is anyone's first choice if it wasn't for the high pay which confirms to me it's still exploitation and anyone finding themselves in this industry needs protection from having to do it at all

You're totally missing my point, but hey ho!

 

[Meditation guide]

it's just a dangerous occupation.

I knew a beautiful heroine addict who was a streetwalker and she said she got assaulted all the time.

 

[x~Sophia~x]

I knew a beautiful heroine addict who was a streetwalker and she said she got assaulted all the time.

OP isn't a street walker though, so what's your point?

 

[JigsawFeelin]

5 clients = 5 hours a month!

Right. Fine.
Okay, we'll get into the nitty gritty details, shall we?

Like a lot of depressed people- I have debt. The debt is the one thing I won't lay bare in this reveal all I didn't expect to have to do after a very honest thread I started that even informed you from the get go I wasn't hooking for high heels and champagne and holidays.
My rent is £500 a month.
I, myself, have chosen 5 as the number because I discovered early on that making myself only marginally available (on my site, this means pulling your page regularly) was better for my mental health as I wasn't receiving 400 emails a day from unsavoury clients
On top of Universal Credit, and after the debt I pay off I earn about £800 a month- £500 goes into rent.
That's my life.
Taking an extra client or two isn't feasible- as Milo S pointed out, not everyone who hires sex workers is a normal, kind human being. Luckily most people are- with this number I reduce my exposure and risk. Sex work might be legal, but I have gone to the police myself after being assaulted and have been told in no short order I asked to be raped because I was a sex worker- never mind I had said no to the particular act and he'd shoved my head into the pillow to silence me.
I was drunk last night, hence my message which I amended because it was ridiculous and I apologise, but I see genuine anti sex-worker sentiment from you.

Would you have a go at a part time worker (working 15 hours a week) entitled to universal credit? I don't think you would. So what's your problem?
It's there for everyone in the UK who can't get a job- me for mental and physical health issues, and my friends for covid job losses. This isn't a witch hunt, I know people on it who lost their jobs to covid, who have money from their parents and just want 'drug money' or a bit extra for clothes.

It's not for you to say 'why not work 6 hours'. The nature of the job itself and the fact I'm on this bleeding forum should be indication enough that I'm probably not the most 'get up and go' person in the world. It's not like I've told you I'm being bankrolled by a boyfriend and claim universal credit.

I'm out there, on my own, turning tricks and supporting myself. And the government stipend that I'm entitled to anyway? What's that got to do with you? At least I'm not claiming extra benefits (which I could do with my medical history). I take the bare minimum from a government that has betrayed me, anyway, and nothing more.

If I ever post a thread saying 'whoop yeah all my hooker money on top of the government dollah I'm getting going to freakin' L.A' then come for me. But right now. I'm just claiming the same amount of money as all my friends with part time and 0 hour contracts.

 

[x~Sophia~x]

Right. Fine.
Okay, we'll get into the nitty gritty details, shall we?

Like a lot of depressed people- I have debt. The debt is the one thing I won't lay bare in this reveal all I didn't expect to have to do after a very honest thread I started that even informed you from the get go I wasn't hooking for high heels and champagne and holidays.
My rent is £500 a month.
I, myself, have chosen 5 as the number because I discovered early on that making myself only marginally available (on my site, this means pulling your page regularly) was better for my mental health as I wasn't receiving 400 emails a day from unsavoury clients
On top of Universal Credit, and after the debt I pay off I earn about £800 a month- £500 goes into rent.
That's my life.
Taking an extra client or two isn't feasible- as Milo S pointed out, not everyone who hires sex workers is a normal, kind human being. Luckily most people are- with this number I reduce my exposure and risk. Sex work might be legal, but I have gone to the police myself after being assaulted and have been told in no short order I asked to be raped because I was a sex worker- never mind I had said no to the particular act and he'd shoved my head into the pillow to silence me.
I was drunk last night, hence my message which I amended because it was ridiculous and I apologise, but I see genuine anti sex-worker sentiment from you.

Would you have a go at a part time worker (working 15 hours a week) entitled to universal credit? I don't think you would. So what's your problem?
It's there for everyone in the UK who can't get a job- me for mental and physical health issues, and my friends for covid job losses. This isn't a witch hunt, I know people on it who lost their jobs to covid, who have money from their parents and just want 'drug money' or a bit extra for clothes.

It's not for you to say 'why not work 6 hours'. The nature of the job itself and the fact I'm on this bleeding forum should be indication enough that I'm probably not the most 'get up and go' person in the world. It's not like I've told you I'm being bankrolled by a boyfriend and claim universal credit.

I'm out there, on my own, turning tricks and supporting myself. And the government stipend that I'm entitled to anyway? What's that got to do with you? At least I'm not claiming extra benefits (which I could do with my medical history). I take the bare minimum from a government that has betrayed me, anyway, and nothing more.

If I ever post a thread saying 'whoop yeah all my hooker money on top of the government dollah I'm getting going to freakin' L.A' then come for me. But right now. I'm just claiming the same amount of money as all my friends with part time and 0 hour contracts.

lol, yes I would have a go at a part time worker, working 15 hours a week, if they were claiming and not declaring income.
You have to be claiming housing benefit and council tax benefit as well though. Surely DHSS would question your ability to afford £500 per month rent and full council tax if you were only claiming UC?
But whatever, you won't disclose that information anyway.

 

[JigsawFeelin]

lol, yes I would have a go at a part time worker, working 15 hours a week, if they were claiming and not declaring income.
You have to be claiming housing benefit and council tax benefit as well though. Surely DHSS would question your ability to afford £500 per month rent and full council tax if you were only claiming UC?
But whatever, you won't disclose that information anyway.

I'm claiming neither of these things- more details of my life from an innocent thread- my rent is all inclusive.
And no, they don't, and haven't for the year I've been claiming UC.
Why are you so het up on the government knowing about a profession they refuse point blank to offer any support for? Are you from the UK and seriously under the impression our child-impoverishing, champagne-chugging and 'get out of jail free card' government deserve our bootlicking?

edit: Oh, I see the point you were making re: declaration. Unless a sex worker has decided this is 'their life' and plans to stay in the profession, they simply can't risk detailing their profession at all. I do know an escort who does everything above board and pays taxes, but she's a rarity- someone who sees a future in it. For students or folk with disabilities or people struggling for whatever reason who don't enjoy it, it's not as simple as that.
At the end of the day, I'm not doing anything bad. There's no quadruple number income I'm not declaring. If there were I would be completely in agreement I was doing a bad thing and would not claim. But I'm earning a pittance, really. When you factor in I keep my prices low because I don't do certain things. So really the best way to look at my case is: sad lonely girl in her twenties making a bit of extra cash.
But we can't change one another's minds on this, and I do appreciate what you mean. I just don't think it applies to cases like mine.

 

[Endeavour]

Everyone has to do what they have to do to survive, it's nothing new it was rife in the 18th and 19th centuries when there was no UC and you would starve to death if you ddidn't earn.

UC is crap it's not enough to survive on, if you get a job it'll probably be on minimum wage, loads of stress, zero hours contract and you'll be worse off after travel than on UC - and you won't qualify for UC if you're working.

So don't judge people, the world is a big pile of shit at the minute and it's only going to get worse, so everyone should do what they need to do, and if that means bending the rules a bit to survive then so be it. The government certainly aren't going to help you to make ends meet.

 

[JigsawFeelin]

Everyone has to do what they have to do to survive, it's nothing new it was rife in the 18th and 19th centuries when there was no UC and you would starve to death if you ddidn't earn.

UC is crap it's not enough to survive on, if you get a job it'll probably be on minimum wage, loads of stress, zero hours contract and you'll be worse off after travel than on UC - and you won't qualify for UC if you're working.

So don't judge people, the world is a big pile of shit at the minute and it's only going to get worse, so everyone should do what they need to do, and if that means bending the rules a bit to survive then so be it. The government certainly aren't going to help you to make ends meet.

Thank ypu.
I'm actually qualified in a field I can't enter atm due to covid, hence the sex work. but all of it is nonsense

 

[Moon Flower]

Never been an escort but I've done just about every form of online sex work you can think of.

 

[xLosthopex]

I hate how threads like this on here always end up turning into a debate of people who've never actually worked in the sex industry telling those of us who do/have what are own industry is like lmao
The sex industry is not inherently exploitative in and of itself, ALL work under capitalism is inherently exploitative
Yes of course there are dangers, but this is as a result of governments and general society not recognizing sex work as actual work, thus not granting us labor rights, and also the fact that we live in a sexist/misogynistic society as it is
I've never felt or been in danger throughout my time working in this industry, nor have I been exploited. I've worked many other kinds of jobs and it's actually stripping and sugar dating that I have felt the most free and in control. So please stop speaking on my behalf!! If you genuinely care about the safety of sex workers start advocating for the decriminalization of sex work

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

I'm male and done many things so not quite the same and dated some on the game but if I knew a clever, pretty young woman was going to turn tricks It would/does smash my heart.

 

[xLosthopex]

I'm male and done many things so not quite the same and dated some on the game but if I knew a clever, pretty young woman was going to turn tricks It would/does smash my heart.

Why? I'm clever, young and pretty and I sell sex etc.
What's the issue?

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

I'm not jugging you! I have my own problems, probably a bit of a sap and could easily fall for some sugar babe and then never want anything bad to happen to them that's all I mean plus I worry about addiction etc and my own personal fealing now days is lots of young women on the edge of such things don't realise how pretty and clever they are.

it was not amined at you or as any type of judgement, take care.

 

[Meditation guide]

lots of young women on the edge of such things don't realise how pretty and clever they are.

Maybe but lots of them do realize it. And the job reinforces it sometimes. I don't think all sex workers fit into the same psychology.

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

Maybe but lots of them do realize it. And the job reinforces it sometimes. I don't think all sex workers fit into the same psychology.

yeah maybe your right.

 

[Tired_Tired]

God create men and women, but sex activities are always limited between men with women. There are gay, lesbian, transgender(in Thailand young boys force to be women), old people(most are men) to young children, even very few people have sex to animals. It's hard to ban prostitution. Anyway life is unfair and complicated. Humans beings are evil. Most people in the SS just want to end suffering ASAP except some pro-lifers, scammers and predators.

 

[Weary Soul]

"Is anyone else an escort?"​

My apologies, I have not read this entire thread.

In my case, not yet.

But I would be a liar to say that I have not considered it. I am in dire financial straights and because of my multiple severe head traumas (TBIs), other "socially accepted employment" is no longer a viable option for me.

Ironically, I used to make 6 figures in a "socially accepted job." And I was very good at it. But that was then and this is now and I no longer have the brain power to continue this kind of job.

In addition, I was molested (nice way of saying raped) at the young ages of 5 through 12, and as a result, I am very versed in not only sex, but what some might call deviant sex (think BDSM, NOT pedophilia - ok, that kinda made me vomit in my mouth - except that has been all that people see me as irl).

I see nothing wrong with being an escort, with the exception that if this is done irl, it may come with severe potential danger.

In my case, I am considering setting up an online website to give people (18+) what they may not otherwise be able to get irl or to teach men how to please women. At the same time, I hope to make some money to continue my existence.

Why not? It seems to me that the vast majority of men have a very high sex drive (biologically founded) and in this way, I may be able to prevent anyone else from experiencing what I did. Why not go for it?

And, until one has walked in my shoes and experienced the excruciating pain that I have. Please do not judge me.

OP - Please, never ever doubt yourself. Peace, love, and hugs to you.

<3

Edited for clarity and typos.

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

God create men and women, but sex activities are always limited between men with women. There are gay, lesbian, transgender(in Thailand young boys force to be women), old people(most are men) to young children, even very few people have sex to animals. It's hard to ban prostitution. Anyway life is unfair and complicated. Humans beings are evil. Most people in the SS just want to end suffering ASAP except some pro-lifers, scammers and predators.

and that is where I'm a hypocrite I've been a bit of a rent boy and used hookers but some of these girls I meet through acquaintances I could totally fall in love with and worry about them.

 

[sourpink]

well I'm late to this gong show.
I'm an ex sw. I often joke about being retired. whatever. I digress.
firstly, no one should be being an ass about any benefits or assistance you might receive. they don't need to know in what ways you might be qualified and entitled to those benefits and they certainly shouldn't be giving lectures and judgment on your personal situation. a fitting username, their fragility is certainly showing.
moving on.
I've considered getting back into that game as it were. but as a body dysmorphic anorexic who copes in .. let's say unhealthy ways, I don't feel confident that I would attract clients who wish me well. I've been subject to rape and threats of many kinds from such unsavory clients. I never bothered reporting any of it because, as you've said, we're taken even less seriously than any other rape victim because as sex workers we're somehow seen as asking for it.
I was raped again, after leaving sex work (like years afterward) and again did not bother with even trying to get help at the pigpen. they don't care, and if they do, they care about protecting a rapist from having his life ruined. so fuck em. let's make bacon.
all over the world, government services are a sadistic joke that only white men can laugh at, at best.
in my mind, I see no problem fucking that system over as it has done to you. it sounds like you aren't "scamming the government" as it were, but even if you were, who is anyone else to judge? and why the hell shouldn't you get your piece of revenge from a broken and corrupt system that's done you wrong anyway?
whatever. sorry for that bit of a rant. I'm a leftist and that whole conservative mindset surrounding eligibility for assistance and perceived fraud really pisses me off.
honestly, I get it. and limiting your client base to ones you've vetted and can mostly rely on to be safe people for you to service is such a positive thing to do to try to keep yourself as safe as possible. I didn't have the luxury to limit my clients when I was still working, but I'm always glad to hear someone else is able to do so. I hope that remains as is for you.
I didn't get the lonely or empty feeling afterward, though.
I wasn't overjoyed either.
I kind of tended to feel neutral, assuming I'd just wrapped up with a client who lucky for me wasn't a complete asshole. I did kind of numb out a lot of the time, which I now know is part of my illness, but I do feel that 'barrier' kept my mind safe.
I think based on all that you've said, keeping a small but reliable client base is a wonderful way to go for you if it's sustainable. if you end up needing more clients or to work more frequently, keep up your screening process, whatever that might entail for you- we all do it differently.
stay safe.
sending love and solidarity.
and yknow, don't let the bastards get you down.

 

[Tired_Tired]

You can fall in love with them and they also can fall in love with you. The reality is only few can be a fairytale. Don't tell me you don't mind dinasours.

 

[Steamm]

Hey, I'm a stripper(pre-covid) and sugar baby, and relate to a lot of what you said
I love my job, one of the few things that gives me any joy these days
I form many genuine connections and even have developed feelings for my sugar daddies
I'm also very gothy/alternative in appearance, and despite having anorexia and body dysmorphia, logically I know I'm very attractive, which I guess I rely heavily on for my sense of self worth
I like the fact that older men see me as this young, beautiful, fantasy girl... I don't know why but to me it's just a great feeling
Oh and just an fyi, sugar dating always involves sex(at least 99.9% of the time) I don't know why so many people think I'm just getting paid to be company for some older man, or to be taken out to dinner etc. lol like yeah that happens too but I've never encountered a sugar daddy who is not expecting to have sex with his sugar baby

This reminds me the time I was rejected by a sugar baby, even I having money... truly the rock bottom. I'm not old btw and the girl had a kid what makes it even more pathetic to me.

 

[JigsawFeelin]

well I'm late to this gong show.
I'm an ex sw. I often joke about being retired. whatever. I digress.
firstly, no one should be being an ass about any benefits or assistance you might receive. they don't need to know in what ways you might be qualified and entitled to those benefits and they certainly shouldn't be giving lectures and judgment on your personal situation. a fitting username, their fragility is certainly showing.
moving on.
I've considered getting back into that game as it were. but as a body dysmorphic anorexic who copes in .. let's say unhealthy ways, I don't feel confident that I would attract clients who wish me well. I've been subject to rape and threats of many kinds from such unsavory clients. I never bothered reporting any of it because, as you've said, we're taken even less seriously than any other rape victim because as sex workers we're somehow seen as asking for it.
I was raped again, after leaving sex work (like years afterward) and again did not bother with even trying to get help at the pigpen. they don't care, and if they do, they care about protecting a rapist from having his life ruined. so fuck em. let's make bacon.
all over the world, government services are a sadistic joke that only white men can laugh at, at best.
in my mind, I see no problem fucking that system over as it has done to you. it sounds like you aren't "scamming the government" as it were, but even if you were, who is anyone else to judge? and why the hell shouldn't you get your piece of revenge from a broken and corrupt system that's done you wrong anyway?
whatever. sorry for that bit of a rant. I'm a leftist and that whole conservative mindset surrounding eligibility for assistance and perceived fraud really pisses me off.
honestly, I get it. and limiting your client base to ones you've vetted and can mostly rely on to be safe people for you to service is such a positive thing to do to try to keep yourself as safe as possible. I didn't have the luxury to limit my clients when I was still working, but I'm always glad to hear someone else is able to do so. I hope that remains as is for you.
I didn't get the lonely or empty feeling afterward, though.
I wasn't overjoyed either.
I kind of tended to feel neutral, assuming I'd just wrapped up with a client who lucky for me wasn't a complete asshole. I did kind of numb out a lot of the time, which I now know is part of my illness, but I do feel that 'barrier' kept my mind safe.
I think based on all that you've said, keeping a small but reliable client base is a wonderful way to go for you if it's sustainable. if you end up needing more clients or to work more frequently, keep up your screening process, whatever that might entail for you- we all do it differently.
stay safe.
sending love and solidarity.
and yknow, don't let the bastards get you down.

How beautifully put. Thank you.
Love and solidarity.

 

[xLosthopex]

I'm not jugging you! I have my own problems, probably a bit of a sap and could easily fall for some sugar babe and then never want anything bad to happen to them that's all I mean plus I worry about addiction etc and my own personal fealing now days is lots of young women on the edge of such things don't realise how pretty and clever they are.

it was not amined at you or as any type of judgement, take care.

There are so many similarities between how people/society treat those of us who are suicidal and those of us who are sex workers. The presumption that if we don't want to continue living(or if I chose to sell sex) that we are merely 'victims' or that we don't know our own minds or must be unstable in some way
I'm not a victim, I chose to do sex work for a variety of reasons that are personal to me. It's just a job

 

[Pulpit2018]

You wont get any respect from me at least for being a sex worker .

OH, and btw, what you are doing is commiting welfare fraud.
I suppose universal credit is something you use in order to get a job and get back on your feet.
If you already have a job, (if you consider your "job" a job that is), then you must declare it ,and stop receiving benefits.
So a person who has no income at all, can benefit instead.
What you are doing is anti-social and illegal. You cannot have it both ways.
If i was a taxpayer in the UK, the last thing i want is my money to go to a sex worker who earns a lot and is messing around with sugar dadies.
Benefits should be a shorttime supply for people who really need it and nobody else. Be honest.

And btw, i do not want sex work made illegal. Except pimping and brothels, which are bad. I think the UK is sensible with allowing independent call girls. Thats okay, but do not commit fraud.