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rozeske

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Ya usually we get hangup on the whole 10-20 seconds to unconsciousness and 30 minutes undisturbed time, we kind of underestimate the setup time. It also took me a lot of time to adjust the noose as the slack was getting too short, too long or the noose it self being too small to fit.
 
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You are in for a surprise.

I do agree there are a lot more that 'go for it' with out any kind of research for various reasons be it inaccessibility or ignorance.
But doing your research and avoiding possible risk factors to protect your self from paralysis and brain damage from an attempt is the recommended way for suicide attempts so as not to include yourself in those 12% - 23% failed reported hanging attempts (anyone can find them with a little google search). Finding it hard to believe it fails and hopping that it is not that hard and that it works is not the way to go about a suicide attempt especially for someone with an access to the internet. But that is just my personal preference. I wouldn't hold it against anyone who has a different opinion.
I will most definitely do my research here and on that link you sent. However, as someone with crippling anxiety who doubts everything he does, it's a rather steep barrier. As I'm always frozen with anxiety over failure. So, knowing that things have to be "perfect" could easily turn into me being too scared to ever make an attempt to find peace.

I fear that I'll get too overwhelmed by all the resources saying conflicting things on how to do this. But perhaps I just have to study them all, then pick the instructions that sound the most factual.

As the instructions on page one of this thread make it sound so simple. But guessing it's not an effective guide?
 
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ffs Ive been wanting to kill myself for the longest time but trying to find the carotid artery and tying a knot there is so hard. I dont get how you are supposed to tie on the carotid artery and avoid the jugular when the jugular is right outside/on the side of the carotid

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fucking wish I wasn't born in Asia, would've been easier if I have a gun already. just one bullet and I can end my misery once and for all.
i might just stab myself on the stomach or slit my throat out of frustration at this point
 
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Thanks mate. I'm going to test with below the neck hopefully tomorrow if I get enough alone time. Is it obvious when you get it right and you've hit the correct spot? Also, how do you know if you aren't hitting the right spot?
 
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Thanks mate. I'm going to test with below the neck hopefully tomorrow if I get enough alone time. Is it obvious when you get it right and you've hit the correct spot? Also, how do you know if you aren't hitting the right spot?
as for me, it was very obvious. Almost immediate dizziness, weakness in the limbs, and almost zero discomfort. Last time i even started to hallucinate. If it's the wrong spot, you'll either start choking, or you'll feel uncomfortable pressure inside your head and nothing more.
 
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fuck I've tried everything bot top of adam's apple and below but all I'm getting is the head pressure thing which I was told wasn't supposed to happen


do I need to change my posture from kneeling and lay down instead or something?
i'll keep a knife in my room because i'm getting very desperate. i dont even want to think what my parents are gonna do to me if i wait any longer.

if anyone know if there's somekind of way to stab myself "painlessly" do share
 
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rozeske

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if anyone know if there's somekind of way to stab myself "painlessly" do share
Please don't do that. You won't be able to kill your self, you will only be in immense pain.
 
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I'm really hoping hanging isn't as impossibly complicated as it seems sometimes in this thread.
as for me, it was very obvious. Almost immediate dizziness, weakness in the limbs, and almost zero discomfort. Last time i even started to hallucinate. If it's the wrong spot, you'll either start choking, or you'll feel uncomfortable pressure inside your head and nothing more.
Even if you totally botched it and got the head pressure and what not, if you hung for long enough would you still die?
 
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Please don't do that. You won't be able to kill your self, you will only be in immense pain.
i'll avoid it for now, unless my parents abuse me again, I dont think I can ignore that as a "quick" option anymore
 
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rozeske

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i'll avoid it for now, unless my parents abuse me again, I dont think I can ignore that as a "quick" option anymore
It is never "quick" and there are much better alternatives than stabbing your self with a knife whether to escape your abusive situation or to die.
 
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Dec 1, 2023
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I'm really hoping hanging isn't as impossibly complicated as it seems sometimes in this thread.

Even if you totally botched it and got the head pressure and what not, if you hung for long enough would you still die?
i don't think so. Death by hanging is either: 1) suffocation 2) bloodflow constriction 3) neck fracture. Head pressure without dizziness is a signal that you're constricting only jugulars, which is not enough. Other two are self-explanatory
 
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head pressure or not im gonna try killing myself today, im scared with what my parents are going to do more than death
 
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If I have a test run today, how likely is it to give me noticeable lines around my neck? As I very much don't want everybody to know what I've tried.
 
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If I have a test run today, how likely is it to give me noticeable lines around my neck? As I very much don't want everybody to know what I've tried.
anything less than 10 seconds will leave only minor marks, which will be gone in no time. It depends on your ligature material though. Also be careful to not slide the noose around your neck, since rope can leave a scratch
 
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rozeske

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Is partial hanging difficult just because a strong instinct of self-preservation is triggered, which tells a person to "stop doing this immediately, take off the rope and stand up"? Is that the only reason?

I'm sorry if I'm asking the question again. I take pills that just kill my memory, but I can't do without them, because I feel very bad
Partial is difficult because it is hard to understand how it works and your position makes it easy to stand up if you abort. People are getting carried away with this whole SI thing far from the science. We shouldn't confuse SI for a big muscular person scolding you and making you take the rope off :) the determined ones have proven to beat it.
If you have the pills it's ok to use them as long as they calm you down enough for you to go through it. Just remember it's not too much relaxation. Pills or no pills the goal is the same.
 
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i spent the entire night trying out partial hanging but i just couldn't make it work. i just want to shrivel up as a vegetable and never think again at this point. honestly, i have no idea how im still sane after all these years. i hope my mind break soon so i dont have to think anymore
 
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so I found out that my right jugular got hard/tightens/bloats? (idk what's it called, english isnt my first language) when I tie a rope on my neck. my left jugular remain "soft"/normal vein hardness and I deduce that the head pressure came entirely from the right jugular. i might be very wrong here, any information would be appreciated
 
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How exactly should this feel if I'm getting it correct? And it sounds like rope placement around your next is the most important factor here?
 
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my family wont be home for 3 days, idk if this is a sign but im gonna try again this week
 
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Well, not much of an update but here's my slipnot. Does it look okay? IMG 5698 IMG 5699
 
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Looks ok. Tie it on your anchor point and pull it down putting your wrist through it. See how easy it slides and tightens.
Your rope looks soft enough but you can also lubricate it to reduce friction.
Thanks mate! I'll try that next week. Unfortunately only get two nights a week alone in the house where I can try. Also annoying I couldn't get a rope under 10 metres, so I'll have to wrap it around the anchor beam many times.
 
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so I tried changing where my knot positions behind my neck (left/right/middle) and even tried making the rope tie as pictured below (pretty dumb ik, but i had to try something): 1708169193576 (accidentally mirrored the drawing)
but no, my right jugular (might be the wrong anatomy here, but its definitely a vein of some sort) still get bloated and head pressure seems to "concentrate" over there.
looking up seems to reduce the head pressure but i'm not sure how viable would it be to keep my head held high while hanging, doesn't seem to make me unconscious too

could it be because of my rope being too thin or something?
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just throwing out questions here cuz I'm genuinely baffled on why my left jugular is "normal" but not my right jugular
so I tried changing where my knot positions behind my neck (left/right/middle) and even tried making the rope tie as pictured below (pretty dumb ik, but i had to try something): 1708169193576
but no, my right jugular (might be the wrong anatomy here, but its definitely a vein of some sort) still get bloated and head pressure seems to "concentrate" over there.
looking up seems to reduce the head pressure but i'm not sure how viable would it be to keep my head held high while hanging, doesn't seem to make me unconscious too

could it be because of my rope being too thin or something?
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just throwing out questions here cuz I'm genuinely baffled on why my left jugular is "normal" but not my right jugular
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here's what my face looks like when I tie the rope

thick blue line are veins that get bloated, thin blue line have normal "hardness"
 
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Thanks mate! I'll try that next week. Unfortunately only get two nights a week alone in the house where I can try. Also annoying I couldn't get a rope under 10 metres, so I'll have to wrap it around the anchor beam many times.
Can the rope be cut into sections? I have a 10m-long nylon rope and I'm cutting out a 2.5m length to use as a hanging rope. I've researched it, and it seems that the weight-bearing capacity of the rope is not related to its length.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I used GPT to polish my words.
 
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Can the rope be cut into sections? I have a 10m-long nylon rope and I'm cutting out a 2.5m length to use as a hanging rope. I've researched it, and it seems that the weight-bearing capacity of the rope is not related to its length.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I used GPT to polish my words.
Thanks mate. I'm more just worried about ruining the integrity of the rope if I cut it? So thought simply wrapping it round and round the anchor point would be the best option.
 
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Appreciate.Sorry for english what is cbt ?
Catch the bus
I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content.
Source and credit: Loe

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Guide to partially suspended hanging:

Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.

This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.

Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.

By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.

Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.

Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.

What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .

It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.

What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.

Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.

Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.

You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.

A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.

When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.

How?

When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.

Good luck...
That's your method?
 
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How do you prevent injuring yourself during a test run?
 
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I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content.
Source and credit: Loe

main-qimg-280555d09229e359da3e30c0205fdfdf-c


Guide to partially suspended hanging:

Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.

This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.

Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.

By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.

Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.

Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.

What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .

It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.

What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.

Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.

Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.

You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.

A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.

When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.

How?

When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.

Good luck...
i just have a few questions

1. will an aux cord for a guitar/amp work?
i managed to tie it pretty good but im not sure if it is going to be too thin or the material isnt right, the cord isnt rubber, its more identical to a rope but still a little weird since there's still wiring inside

2. in how many seconds will it take till i go unconscious?
i want to be absolutely sure that no one is going to find me and i would also like the thought of killing myself to not last that long
so, what would i feel if i am doing it correctly? is what im asking.
 
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