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it was the same as i've already shared hereCan you share what your setup was like?
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it was the same as i've already shared hereCan you share what your setup was like?
It didn't. I actually thought touching would be enough. I need to think about it.Did your knees touch the ground? I might try it without touching the ground this time round. Also i think ive just found my carotid artery in the middle of the neck. I tried to push down on it with my thumbs and almost passed out. I think i just somehow have to do this with the rope
With your weight it would be better to get a rope that specifies how much weight it holds. For full suspension no need for extra knot or extra materials, your weight will close off everything. One knot at the back is enough. In order to avoid cutting skin don't use a very thin rope. But remember very thick ligatures take long to make you pass out.I need to be certain. I absolutely cannot fail. Brain damage is my worst fear. So I'm thinking full suspension.
I do have some advantages. Location is not a problem - I live alone in a quiet area. I have a large garage with wooden beams which I'm pretty sure can take the weight, although I will test. I have a 2 step ladder that I am going to kick away. There's plenty of space I have the resources to buy whatever I need. I also have 14 zopiclone 7.5mg, although no experience whatsoever in taking a sleeping pill of any kind. Any advice here would be welcomed. I do have unlimited booze, although quite a high tolerance. I'm assuming I'm going to panic and struggle, so I think any partial is out of the question, and I need to be totally clear of any surface that I could reach
I have some questions.
I'm over 300lbs. What a sensible choice of ligature? I'd like to minimise the pain, but again, certainty is my priority. I was thinking climbing rope. Any suggestions? Again, I have resources and an Amazon Prime account, so any suggestions welcome. Anything to make it less painful? Has anyone any experience of numbing the area around the rope?
Knots - I'm bad at knots, but it looks like a slip knot will do the job. Does it matter where on my neck it goes? Knot behind my head OK? I understand the need to compress my artery - I'm assuming just a simple loop will achieve that without any need additional pressure on that point? I don't see anyone advocating an extra know in the loop where it would press into artery. I'm assuming my weight is going to crush my neck. I worried about tearing muscles and skin and dying in agony. Is that likely? Anything I can do to mitigate whilst still ensuring success?
Yeah, hence the climbing rope idea. It has high tensile strength - 12mm will hold 1200kg. I just have no experience of climbing and wondered if there was too much 'give', or if 12mm was too narrow, or uncomfortable.With your weight it would be better to get a rope that specifies how much weight it holds. For full suspension no need for extra knot or extra materials, your weight will close off everything. One knot at the back is enough. In order to avoid cutting skin don't use a very thin rope. But remember very thick ligatures take long to make you pass out.
You need to be sure of the 'give' if you strech it far enough you might end up falling on the ground mid attempt. Can you may be try it with your hand (pass a road thing through the noose so you won't hurt your hand) and try pushing down with your full weight and see how much it stretches.Yeah, hence the climbing rope idea. It has high tensile strength - 12mm will hold 1200kg. I just have no experience of climbing and wondered if there was too much 'give', or if 12mm was too narrow, or uncomfortable.
The drop hanging method, though was considered humane and fast, is not easy to pull off. It needs precise calculation of your hight and weight, precise placement of knot, how much slack of rope length required to snap your neck and not decapitate or leave you chocking. It has a higher margin of error, one of the reasons it was abandoned.Hi,
I intend to use drop hanging as my method, with the rope tied to a tree branch about five times my height. I'm going to use a hangman's knot, however I have a few questions regarding it.
Firstly, I find that if I apply downward force to the loop using my arm, I find that the noose loop does not tighten as I would expect, however if I move the twists above the loop downward, the noose tightens as expected. Have I tied it incorrectly or is this the intended way for it to work?
Secondly, how many twists should I place above the loop? The noose I am experimenting with has seven twists and I assume the more the better but I am not sure.
Thirdly, there seems to be a fair bit of friction on the rope when I tighten it in the way above, would this pose a risk to the method not working or would my body weight from the fall be enough to tighten it?
Finally, I intend to tie the rope to the branch with a clove hitch whilst sitting above it and execute the method by sliding off the branch with the hangman's knot around my neck. Would this be sufficient or is there a risk of me falling out of the rope entirely and injuring myself unexpectedly and surviving?
Thanks.
Hi! Sorry if this is a dumb question but is there a guide on SS for full suspension hanging? Thank u for taking the time to read this
The drop hanging method, though was considered humane and fast, is not easy to pull off. It needs precise calculation of your hight and weight, precise placement of knot, how much slack of rope length required to snap your neck and not decapitate or leave you chocking. It has a higher margin of error, one of the reasons it was abandoned.
I would suggest suspension hanging and for that it's recommended to use a slipknot that tightens easily than the hangman's knot.
To avoid surviving and brain damage, make sure your rope and anchor point is strong enough to hold your weight, make sure you are not discovered before atleast 30 minutes. Also plenty of useful materials around here, make sure to read through them and prepare well.
I can't really pin point to the flaws in your plan because am not knowledgeable on it as I didn't choose nor recommended this method. As it is stated in the resource you sharedHi, thanks for your reply,
I have taken these parameters into consideration already with a table i found online at the following link
Drop hanging - Lost All Hope
This is purported (see Stone1 and Clark2) to cause very quick, and almost painless (possibly for a millisecond) death by way of fracture-dislocation of the upper neck vertebrae, which crushes or severs the spinal cord leading to immediate unconsciousness (in a matter of milliseconds). The cause...www.lostallhope.com
They suggest using their table that given I weigh 62kg (136 lbs), I should aim for a drop height of 226cm (7 foot 5 inches).
The branch I have chosen on my nominated tree can support this drop height quite easily, however you have a good point in terms of placement of the knot and slack of the rope. I am looking to place the rope around the top of my neck above the adam's apple to maximise the chances of my neck snapping and minimising choking sensation in the event of my neck not snapping as expected. Along with this, I have a fairly long length of rope so I will be able to provide a fair amount of slack for my fall velocity to increase before the noose tightens, hopefully maximising my chances of my neck snapping. The intention is to slide from a sitting position above the branch to ensure my head falls backwards upon the noose tightening once the slack becomes tightened from the fall, triggering the neck snap, however I fear that a potential flaw here is falling out of the noose entirely, and injuring myself in a very isolated location.
I have made a thread previously regarding my method of which at the time I was considering a slip knot, however replies suggested the hangman's knot for the drop hang in particular would be more appropriate so now I am a little confused.
In regards to the anchor point I intend to wrap the rope three or four times around the branch with the end of the rope being secured with a clove hitch knot, I believe this should support my weight adequately.
The location in which I will be executing the drop hang is an isolated location that is several kilometers away from anyone, so the chances of being found within 30 minutes are minimal, I doubt I would even be found within 12 hours, so even in the event the drop hang fails and I suffocate, I will almost certainly be dead before anyone finds me regardless.
If there are any flaws in my plan, please let me know, I am making as many preporations as possible to ensure my neck snaps upon the slack of the rope and subsequently the noose tightening, however if i suffocate, so be it.
my grandma and brother found me, i remember slowly getting dizzy then everything was black i think the urge to vomit made me wake up since i drank a whole bottleWho found you and sorry they threw your rope away. So did you actually pass out then?
The problem was ALCOHOL, do not drink before attempting
If only more people understood this!the urge to vomit made me wake up since i drank a whole bottle
Is there another way besides alcohol to reduce SI?If only more people understood this!
Glad to know you didn't sustain further damage.
it's very hard to get the arteries, but it can workSorry for stupid question which is kinda not related, but if the main cause of death from hanging is suspension of blood flow in carotid artery - theoretically would slicing it open guarantee death?
Thank you! I appreciate it.Prescription sleepers or things like diazepam. OTC you're looking at things like phenergan. You don't wanna be too relaxed though because the problem is that will power decreases because you're sleepy and unfocused.
Hanging already is 77% - 88% effective. Meaning there already are a great deal of factors that makes fail. Taking substances that knock you out in theory is nice since you won't feel a thing, but it also is risky since you could fall in the noose in a wrong way and only endup injuring yourself. I wouldn't add additional risk factors to an already risky method.For full suspension, would knocking yourself unconscious (such as with nitrous oxide) while standing on the platform be a good idea?
It'll happen like this:
1. Nitrous oxide knocks you out due to oxygen deprivation.
2. You fall off the platform.
3. The noose tightens around your neck, constricting oxygen supply. So you won't wake up from the nitrous oxide.
4. So you'll go through the whole hanging process completely unconscious.
"Fall in the noose in a wrong way." What does that even mean, there's no "wrong" way to fall.Hanging already is 77% - 88% effective. Meaning there already are a great deal of factors that makes fail. Taking substances that knock you out in theory is nice since you won't feel a thing, but it also is risky since you could fall in the noose in a wrong way and only endup injuring yourself. I wouldn't add additional risk factors to an already risky method.
I find this odd, as in Australia it's the go to method and it doesn't seem like there's people failing this very often. I also find it hard to beleive the people that do off themselves with this method did much research. So, I'm hoping that hanging myself is not as hard as I'm worried it is.Hanging already is 77% - 88% effective. Meaning there already are a great deal of factors that makes fail. Taking substances that knock you out in theory is nice since you won't feel a thing, but it also is risky since you could fall in the noose in a wrong way and only endup injuring yourself. I wouldn't add additional risk factors to an already risky method.
You are in for a surprise."Fall in the noose in a wrong way." What does that even mean, there's no "wrong" way to fall.
I do agree there are a lot more that 'go for it' with out any kind of research for various reasons be it inaccessibility or ignorance.I find this odd, as in Australia it's the go to method and it doesn't seem like there's people failing this very often. I also find it hard to beleive the people that do off themselves with this method did much research. So, I'm hoping that hanging myself is not as hard as I'm worried it is.
I'm sorry to ask that..my grandma and brother found me, i remember slowly getting dizzy then everything was black i think the urge to vomit made me wake up since i drank a whole bottle
OK please tell me then, what would be a "bad" way to fall?You are in for a surprise.
I do agree there are a lot more that 'go for it' with out any kind of research for various reasons be it inaccessibility or ignorance.
But doing your research and avoiding possible risk factors to protect your self from paralysis and brain damage from an attempt is the recommended way for suicide attempts so as not to include yourself in those 12% - 23% failed reported hanging attempts (anyone can find them with a little google search). Finding it hard to believe it fails and hopping that it is not that hard and that it works is not the way to go about a suicide attempt especially for someone with an access to the internet. But that is just my personal preference. I wouldn't hold it against anyone who has a different opinion.
I'm talking about full suspension just so you know. In full suspension you can't control where the rope tightens anyway. It'll always move up to under the jaw.Cutting off airflow rather than blood flow for one. Only compressing the jugular but not the artery is another.