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winterparty

Student
Jul 29, 2023
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Also I was told that you need a longer rope if you use the fishermens bends for full suspension hanging and mine can't be longer than 50cm in total with the noose knot so is that enough?
 
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monday?

monday?

negative utilitarian, toxic nihilist, coomerpilled
Jul 28, 2023
42
Has anyone had problems with the noose triggering their gag reflex during PSH?
 
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Forsaken666

Lost
Oct 3, 2023
12
IMG20231004022221 Could this work? A knot on the otherside, then close the door and out. Also before passing out should I completely lose the ability to breath?
 
Cloud Busting

Cloud Busting

Formerly pinkribbonscars
Sep 9, 2023
417
The rope that remains after tying the knot is very short and should be longer. This is a safety rule for climbing, you leave a long end after tying a knot, this is because the knot can slide a little after putting weight on it, and then it tightens and stops sliding. The knot may come undone if the length of the remaining rope is too short. This also applies to the noose knot.
Yep, never underestimate the knot coming undone. My knot loosened, so I was no longer dropping enough for the noose to restrict my neck. Ultimately this is why I failed. I'm a dum-dum

Useful information. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Scattered-Soul

Scattered-Soul

It was an indescribable pain
Oct 2, 2023
163
Initially I thought that if I chose hanging I'd have to go with full, I thought that was the only legitimate method when it came to hanging since I've tried partial (didn't know that was the name of it) numerous times throughout the years and failed, I'd feel pressure building up in my head and my eyes like they're about to pop and my lungs would start to hurt, turns out I was most likely choking myself. Anyway, it had been a while since my last attempt and I've tried to do my research on the entire method so that I can make it work by simply passing out and then die while unconscious but jeez is this hard. My illness is progressing rapidly so my muscles are pretty weak and I'm also at a point where I can barely process and memorize any instructions, couldn't even learn how to tie slipknot (it's quite the pathetic situation, I know, trust me).

I've also thought about what people have mentioned - about how CBT by hanging is usually done without that much preparation or thought behind it, people simply grab whatever they have at their disposal and do it without caring about techniques, material, uncomfortableness and so on. Well, I just tried doing that, I felt like I'd pass out anyway so I was hoping that would decrease the SI. Miraculously I managed to tie a slipknot, I also learned that this should work just fine with a scarf and the metal bar in my wardrobe but I just made myself choke again. Honestly I barely made it out, I really wish I didn't but with the way it was going I would've probably been struggling for air for at least 30ish minutes and it would've turned into me torturing myself. I can't really control where the knot ends up going after attempting to drop because I can make it drop if I apply pressure only at a certain angle and then the knot just ends up moving around (it doesn't come undone at least).

I've no clue what exactly am I supposed to do to get the carotid arteries and pass out, I thought I knew where they were and my neck's quite thin so that should be good? But instead I might just end up snapping a bone there or something if I apply the needed pressure. Sorry for spewing out a bunch of nothing, I hope at least someone finds my struggle entertaining. I know these questions have been answered more than a thousand times already but it's tough.
 
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MatthieuFrederickW

Specialist
Feb 6, 2023
302
I've no clue what exactly am I supposed to do to get the carotid arteries and pass out, I thought I knew where they were and my neck's quite thin so that should be good?
Where on the neck did you place the rope and the knot? Most ideal location seems to be just below the jaw with the knot at the back.
 
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Scattered-Soul

Scattered-Soul

It was an indescribable pain
Oct 2, 2023
163
Where on the neck did you place the rope and the knot? Most ideal location seems to be just below the jaw with the knot at the back.
That's how I end up doing it usually, only that the knot might move itself to the side when I attempt to drop. I'm certain that I've got the right position at least (right below the jaw as you said) but without the required force/pressure it ends up as choking. I kinda wanna find a way to practice but this feels like a one time and you're done.
 
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MatthieuFrederickW

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Feb 6, 2023
302
That's how I end up doing it usually, only that the knot might move itself to the side when I attempt to drop. I'm certain that I've got the right position at least (right below the jaw as you said) but without the required force/pressure it ends up as choking. I kinda wanna find a way to practice but this feels like a one time and you're done.
I'm not sure it really matters if the knot is slightly off centre rather than directly at the back once the noose tightens fully, but it's all about the way in which the weight is applied suddenly and fully to lose consciousness. Easing into it slowly seems to not be effective. Is that how you practiced?
 
Scattered-Soul

Scattered-Soul

It was an indescribable pain
Oct 2, 2023
163
I'm not sure it really matters if the knot is slightly off centre rather than directly at the back once the noose tightens fully, but it's all about the way in which the weight is applied suddenly and fully to lose consciousness. Easing into it slowly seems to not be effective. Is that how you practiced?
Not really, after I put my head through the noose I try to just drop as fast as I can while putting my entire weight into it, that doesn't make me pass out though, I end up strangling/choking myself and then I manage to stand up and loosen the noose (which is how I save myself) since I'm in a semi-kneeling position (wardrobe structure is a little weird). With the way it's going it might just half-decapitate me or fracture the hyoid bone without killing me. Sorry for being a nuisance btw, I'll try to take some time off from trying and do more research.
 
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claraisnotcarol

claraisnotcarol

from dust to dust
Oct 4, 2023
111
couple doubts.
first: isn't it better the complete one since you crack your neck and is a faster death and so, painless?

second: partially, how much time would you suffer from the pain of asfixiation? isn't it hurtful?

third: in the partial way, wouldn't it be easy to activate your survival mode and back up?
 
MatthieuFrederickW

MatthieuFrederickW

Specialist
Feb 6, 2023
302
Not really, after I put my head through the noose I try to just drop as fast as I can while putting my entire weight into it, that doesn't make me pass out though, I end up strangling/choking myself and then I manage to stand up and loosen the noose (which is how I save myself) since I'm in a semi-kneeling position (wardrobe structure is a little weird). With the way it's going it might just half-decapitate me or fracture the hyoid bone without killing me. Sorry for being a nuisance btw, I'll try to take some time off from trying and do more research.
yeah it's a mystery how some lose consciousness in seconds while others can't whatsoever. Maybe it's to do with the material for the ligature. Hopefully you figure it out.
 
Scattered-Soul

Scattered-Soul

It was an indescribable pain
Oct 2, 2023
163
Well, looks like I'll be a long-term resident of this thread. For now I'm deadset on using my trusty scarf and my two options are wardrobe and my door handle, both seem pretty reliable, all I need is to find the right spot and technique and learn how to apply the needed pressure. At the very least I think I'm getting more and more used to it and I'm weakening my anxiety and SI, plus it's almost comforting.
 
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QueenBoo

QueenBoo

Member
Oct 7, 2023
7
Last week, I tried to hang myself from a curtain rod using a shibari rope, but the drywall gave way. Then, on Tuesday, I tried a partial hang from a shelf, and this didn't fail as catastrophically, but evidently, it still failed. I hadn't found this site yet, but from what's in the OP, it doesn't seem like I did anything wrong. The main problem seems to be that I didn't pass out, no matter how much pressure I put on my neck. I'm thinking that the way to do this might be to induce syncope by crouching and hyperventilating, and then standing up fast. My main problem will be ensuring I get my head in the noose before passing out. I'm also thinking that perhaps I might not get enough pressure on my neck to properly cut off the blood flow. I don't want brain damage if I fail. Actually, now that I think of it, I wonder if I could do a full hang, now that I have a better spot to hang from (one of those hooks you put at the tops of doors to hang stuff from).
 
QueenBoo

QueenBoo

Member
Oct 7, 2023
7
So, I couldn't induce syncope just by crouching, hyperventilating and then standing. It turns out you have to strain afterwards, and a reliable way of doing this is with something called a Valsalva maneuver, which is where you try to exhale against a closed airway. I've been able to reliably induce partial syncope through this process. I did it on my bed to avoid mere injury, and the ceiling above my bed is slanted, so I couldn't stand up all the way, unfortunately, and I think that might be contributing to how I was only getting partial syncope, but either way, it usually only takes two tries, at which point, I will inevitably fall over (I can guide my falling a bit, though I did still end up hitting my head on the wall very slightly), and begin to grey out. When this happens, I begin convulsing. It doesn't feel involuntary, it feels like I'm just doing it on purpose, but what I've read and seen indicates that I don't have motor control at that time. I never fully lose vision, but the borders of it fade, and I can only see within the center of it. I can still think throughout this, but it's very subdued. It was reduced to the sort of background recollection of music that I have going on all the time. I remember looking at my computer monitor and seeing the image that was pulled up, and being able to identify that it was a person lying on the floor (I was watching a video about syncope), but I couldn't remember the context behind why I had this image up, and I couldn't see well enough to tell that the person was wearing flesh-tone garments instead of being nude. I thought that it would be very embarrassing and morbid if I died with a picture of a naked dead body on my screen and people saw this. Anyway, this should be enough to prevent SI during a partial hang, I think.
 
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LilaBlues

Member
Oct 2, 2023
35
Has anyone had problems with the noose triggering their gag reflex during PSH?
I have a lot of problems with gag reflex. I don't know how to change that, have you found a method?
Also, did anybody here get the tourniquet method to work?

Thank you
 
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monday?

monday?

negative utilitarian, toxic nihilist, coomerpilled
Jul 28, 2023
42
I have a lot of problems with gag reflex. I don't know how to change that, have you found a method?
Also, did anybody here get the tourniquet method to work?

Thank you
Keeping the muscles on my neck relaxed seems to help. I also placed the noose a bit higher so i put less weight on it
 
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LilaBlues

Member
Oct 2, 2023
35
Keeping the muscles on my neck relaxed seems to help. I also placed the noose a bit higher so i put less weight on it
But do you manage to pass out? I cannot seem to pass out or get anything even close to passing out. I really need to ctb and I don't have access to other methods.
 
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monday?

negative utilitarian, toxic nihilist, coomerpilled
Jul 28, 2023
42
But do you manage to pass out? I cannot seem to pass out or get anything even close to passing out. I really need to ctb and I don't have access to other methods.
yeah i did pass out once but that was a different setup. what helped me was practicing in the mirror while pulling the noose upwards with my hands. even though i can't pass out this way i know what a blood choke should feel like because my vision goes dark and when i'm in position to actually do it i can just stop if i don't feel the bloodchoke and try a different position
 
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LilaBlues

Member
Oct 2, 2023
35
yeah i did pass out once but that was a different setup. what helped me was practicing in the mirror while pulling the noose upwards with my hands. even though i can't pass out this way i know what a blood choke should feel like because my vision goes dark and when i'm in position to actually do it i can just stop if i don't feel the bloodchoke and try a different position
Thanks for your help. I really need to pass out and be able to go. I don't know how people do it though. I managed to get a darker vision once, but that is still faw away from passing out and dying. What setup did you use? Any ideas?
 
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monday?

monday?

negative utilitarian, toxic nihilist, coomerpilled
Jul 28, 2023
42
Thanks for your help. I really need to pass out and be able to go. I don't know how people do it though. I managed to get a darker vision once, but that is still faw away from passing out and dying.
it can take a while to get it right. i've been practicing every day for the past month and it payed off
 
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LilaBlues

Member
Oct 2, 2023
35
it can take a while to get it right. i've been practicing every day for the past month and it payed off
Is there a special set-up or technique you use - knots, materials? Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

I don't know how someone like Kate Spade does it with a scarf and a doorknob. I am trying to hang myself and all I get is horrible gag reflex and nausea and vomiting. I just really need to pass as my body is failing me and I am very ill.
 
MatthieuFrederickW

MatthieuFrederickW

Specialist
Feb 6, 2023
302
yeah i did pass out once but that was a different setup. what helped me was practicing in the mirror while pulling the noose upwards with my hands. even though i can't pass out this way i know what a blood choke should feel like because my vision goes dark and when i'm in position to actually do it i can just stop if i don't feel the bloodchoke and try a different position
What were you practicing with, a rope? That seems a good way to practice.
 
monday?

monday?

negative utilitarian, toxic nihilist, coomerpilled
Jul 28, 2023
42
What were you practicing with, a rope? That seems a good way to practice.
at first i was practicing with a ratchet strap and then i ordered a rope but then realized that the strap wasn't the problem. as long as your setup can hold your weight and the knots don't come loose it doesn't matter that much. just make sure to test the hell out of your setup
 
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MatthieuFrederickW

Specialist
Feb 6, 2023
302
at first i was practicing with a ratchet strap and then i ordered a rope but then realized that the strap wasn't the problem. as long as your setup can hold your weight and the knots don't come loose it doesn't matter that much. just make sure to test the hell out of your setup
Thanks for reply. Yep, I'm definitely testing everything thoroughly so I know exactly what to do for any real attempt, and what to do if anything should potentially go wrong. I don't want to be one of those where the anchor point loosens or rope snaps or whatever just because of carelessness and not using common sense lol
 
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TheSuicidalLlama

Member
Oct 10, 2023
20
downloaded "the last five acts" book to learn more about this method... I'm gonna read it all, though, so I can learn more about every method aswell... has anyone that's read it tell me if the book is good or thoughts about it? thanks
 
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AllAlone

Member
Oct 4, 2023
61
I am a little confused about where my anchor point should be. Should it be vertical above me or horizontal? Also, won't the rope loosen or slide when I lose consciousness or fall backwards? My understanding is that I'm supposes to push against the ligurture rather than actually be hanging. Also is there anyway to prevent the red marks around your neck. I want to try partial but if I fail I don't want my neck to be all red as that would be suspicious.
 
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TheSuicidalLlama

Member
Oct 10, 2023
20
I have the resources to do a long drop one, but I want to be sure I'm going to get it right before I do it. Not totally decided on this method yet but I'm very interested now.
 
gonegirl1

gonegirl1

Student
Oct 12, 2023
101
i've been on this site for a few months since ive decided that i´m really going through with this. i am thinking of doing full hanging with a scarf knotted on a wooden bar from my bed structure. i'm always delaying it when im ready bc im just so afraid that the bar will break (its not very thick but it looks kinda strong for at least holding my weight for a short time)/my feet will touch the floor and I wont be able to go through with it. Any thoughts?

Ive also tried partial for a while in the past but SI always kicks in and i can't go through with it, but i'm familiarized with the "tingly" feeling that is supposed to happen. so I decided that full is the way. I'm not really worried about throat pain but i'm terrified of suffocating. Ive researched and in a full hanging it shouldnt take more than 20 secs to start to lose consciousness but what if it takes more... Will it be agonizing? has anyone here ever reached uncounsciousness that can tell me bout what pain they experienced?

also, im afraid of the noise the convulsion fase will make, since im planning on maybe doing while other people sleep in a room next to mine due to lack of options.

thanks anyways
I am a little confused about where my anchor point should be. Should it be vertical above me or horizontal? Also, won't the rope loosen or slide when I lose consciousness or fall backwards? My understanding is that I'm supposes to push against the ligurture rather than actually be hanging. Also is there anyway to prevent the red marks around your neck. I want to try partial but if I fail I don't want my neck to be all red as that would be suspicious.
In partial the pressure should be made rather in a diagonal, not totally vertical but pushing with your face to the front until you loose consciousness (if you can), then you'd fall normally like in a full hanging. I have practiced with scarves and the neck gets a little red but it doesn't last long, contrary to ropes that leave marks
 
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asian.neet

asian.neet

Specialist
Oct 13, 2023
307
Hi. I'm new to this site. I got an electrical cord cable tied to my closet rack but every time I try to practice to pass out I can never do it. In fact every attempt I make I just get a headache and it feels like my head is about to explode.

What do you recommend doing? I plan to fully attempt tomorrow while my parents go to church.
 

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