How do you justify eating meat?

[NaturalBornNEET]

I eat meat and don't justify myself at all, it's pretty amazing what a human can do when they move through life with minimal consciousness and care towards anything. Explains a lot of human history.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

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[NaturalBornNEET]

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It's interesting, this site has the highest concentration of vegans I've seen in any community. Must be hard to use the "but we neeeeed to eat and exploit animals to survive I'm literally a lion hear me roooaaar" bullshit when you can't even claim to want to live.

 

[Dejected 55]

I don't know why anyone has to justify eating meat OR not eating meat.

I do not like how horribly most corporate farms treat livestock, though. That's an easy one... I absolutely could not hunt and kill for food if I had to do so. In that scenario I would be a vegan by default. But I can accept that there are a lot of animals who would not even be here except for being bred as livestock. I just wish we had more farms where the animals had a good life before they were killed for food. I don't think their lives have to be horrible the whole way through.

I grant you, that probably says something about me... that I can justify eating meat as long as I don't see or kill it. I have to live with that. Truth to tell, I don't eat a lot of beef really. I eat zero fish. I do like chicken and turkey, those are the hardest for me to give up. I was vegan for a while after my heart attack and have stayed mostly off red meats since then... but chicken and turkey are back on the menu... though there are many good vegan substitutes now that taste great.

I wish they would progress more on the labs that are trying to just grow meat, without the animal... I think if they could get there, we could have our cake and eat it too... in that we could have actual beef, not substitute, without abusing any animals to get there.

Meanwhile, there are vegans and vegetarians who are too self-righteous and inconsistent... they have pets, and even if they treat their pets well, the pets are still not truly free, right? And we mostly got rid of circus performing animals and that horribleness, but we still have zoos... so we aren't perfect in many areas.

There are still experiments on animals too. While I don't love it, you can more easily justify testing medical things on animals than you can cosmetics. Fuck your perfume or cologne or lipstick needing to be tested on animals... but I'll begrudgingly understand some measure of medical testing that has produced results.

I'm a bit hypocritical... I get it. I don't sugarcoat it. I own my inconsistencies.

 

[NaturalBornNEET]

I don't know why anyone has to justify eating meat OR not eating meat.

I do not like how horribly most corporate farms treat livestock, though. That's an easy one... I absolutely could not hunt and kill for food if I had to do so. In that scenario I would be a vegan by default. But I can accept that there are a lot of animals who would not even be here except for being bred as livestock. I just wish we had more farms where the animals had a good life before they were killed for food. I don't think their lives have to be horrible the whole way through.

I grant you, that probably says something about me... that I can justify eating meat as long as I don't see or kill it. I have to live with that. Truth to tell, I don't eat a lot of beef really. I eat zero fish. I do like chicken and turkey, those are the hardest for me to give up. I was vegan for a while after my heart attack and have stayed mostly off red meats since then... but chicken and turkey are back on the menu... though there are many good vegan substitutes now that taste great.

I don't think it says anything about you if what you're implying is you're bad for it (that would make literally everything evil because we all have to manipulate our environment to survive as ourselves, basic metabolism. It comes down to a lack of caring/awareness in the exact moment you do the deed.

For most people they associate the food on their plate with cherished memories, love and fulfillment, all that is very real if that's how you perceive it, but there's always deeper levels happening, and yes when you analyse the source of all nice things in life they mostly always lead to a sacrifice or exploit of some sort.

I'm a bit hypocritical... I get it. I don't sugarcoat it. I own my inconsistencies.

As it goes, to claim you aren't hypocritical would be hypocritical. And inconsistency is how life moves, and contradictions are the building blocks.