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Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
6,089
Whatever it was if it would make me feel good enough to take a trip to Japan I'd take it. It sounds nice to be able to plot my suicide while I jet set around the world.
 
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Goku Black

Goku Black

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Jun 5, 2023
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I think the inChl info implies it was Sodium Nitrate, not Nitrite.
That was my observation as well. The melting point of Sodium Nitrate is 308 degrees while the Melting point of Sodium Nitrite is 271 degrees Fahrenheit. Op the only conclusion I can come to that while you ingested an amount that definitely should've been it, I think you took NITRATE instead of Nitrite because even if you did vomit and it took you just under an hour to do so, you still would've retained enough sn to still ctb in your system. @ghostbird
I've always wanted to go to Japan too. Don't think it's gonna happen now.
Same here and I've always wanted a Ducati but yeah, both those things are far less likely now, I have a way better chance of successfully catching the the bus in the next month or so.
Even as happy as I was in Japan, I still wanted, more than anything, to die. It made me realise that my desire to die isn't situational.
Understandable, some people still want to ctb despite being in high-rise penthouses so It makes sense.
 
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gbi2

Specialist
Jul 10, 2023
314
That was my observation as well. The melting point of Sodium Nitrate is 308 degrees while the Melting point of Sodium Nitrite is 271 degrees Fahrenheit. Op the only conclusion I can come to that while you ingested an amount that definitely should've been it, I think you took NITRATE instead of Nitrite because even if you did vomit and it took you just under an hour to do so, you still would've retained enough sn to still ctb in your system. @ghostbird
Yes Googling 'international chemical identifier for Sodium Nitrate' gives results that show that assay data, example (french site):

Essai

99.995% trace metals basis

Forme

solid

Pf

306 °C (dec.) (lit.)

Solubilité

water: soluble 874 g/L at 20 °C

SMILES string

[Na+].[O-][N+]([O-])=O

InChI

1S/NO3.Na/c2-1(3)4;/q-1;+1

InChI key

VWDWKYIASSYTQR-UHFFFAOYSA-N
The key matches.

Yes OP, bit of a mistake there. Never mind, better luck in future :)
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Global Mod
Jun 5, 2023
3,140
Yes Googling 'international chemical identifier for Sodium Nitrate' gives results that show that assay data, example (french site):


The key matches.
Hmm I think this explains it, despite @ghostbird doing everything right, they didn't ctb because it was not NITRITE despite having a 99% assay. I don't see anything else identifiable that is a plausible explanation except that this was, in fact, NITRATE not Nitrite.
 
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Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
6,089
Oh I apologize to the OP! I feel so relieved that she's not a pro lifer like I thought. I actually had purchased sodium nitrate by mistake at first.
 
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Podlerman

Member
Nov 13, 2023
25
Sorry, new. What's SN? Is it Sodium Nitrite (NaNo2) or Sodium Nitrate (NaNo3)? Which one is best to take? I'm confusing them.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

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Jun 5, 2023
3,140
It reminds me of when we would buy some speed for clubbing and it'd turn out to be something else - possibly Sodium Nitrate!
sometimes I still get surprised that there is potential for people to mix up the two, one is far more deadlier than other however mistakes happen. Some people rush out to get Nitrite, thinking it's Nitrite but then it isnt because they just bought it without double-checking if it's actually what it is like the CAS number or the Chemical info as well.
Sorry, new. What's SN? Is it Sodium Nitrite (NaNo2) or Sodium Nitrate (NaNo3)? Which one is best to take? I'm confusing them.
NAN02 not NAN03. Sodium Nitrate will not do at all. You'll at worst get real sick but that's about it. CAS number 7632-00-0
 
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roguetrader

Experienced
Feb 17, 2021
246
No wonder it didn't work! Most people who ingest SN are unconscious within 10-15 minutes with that kind of dosage while the OP was still able to move around.
 
Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
6,089
I used to be here every day two years ago and watched people posting as they took SN and it never failed to knock people out around the 12 minute mark. On average someone posted a goodbye thread like that about once a week.
Now and then someone would have a terrible stomach pain or headache and call for help but not often.
This site has changed so much now, no one does that and I've seen a few where they failed that didn't fit that pattern. I thought this was one of those.
 
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Goku Black

Goku Black

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Jun 5, 2023
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I used to be here every day two years ago and watched people posting as they took SN and it never failed to knock people out around the 12 minute mark. On average someone posted a goodbye thread like that about once a week.
Now and then someone would have a terrible stomach pain or headache and call for help but not often.
This site has changed so much now, no one does that and I've seen a few where they failed that didn't fit that pattern. I thought this was one of those.
Yea i agree with this, I've seen you around for sometime on this forum, commenting on SN gb threads or just threads in general discussion about SN. Sn threads were quite high in occurrence in 2019-2021 compared to now so you've observed patterns as to how things usually happen when someone takes sn.

I'm just glad OP came back to clear it up just as I suggested we wait for and luckily, it worked out.
No wonder it didn't work! Most people who ingest SN are unconscious within 10-15 minutes with that kind of dosage while the OP was still able to move around.
40 mins to finally vomit while at that point, most people would've already drawn their final breath if they took SN at that point.
 
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Old Friend

Old Friend

Sleep well, Airstrip One.
Sep 24, 2023
475
Some good work by yourself and @gbi2 to clear it up. It's vital that information and experiences shared are as accurute as possible. Not that the OP intended to deceive.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Global Mod
Jun 5, 2023
3,140
Some good work by yourself and @gbi2 to clear it up. It's vital that information and experiences shared are as accurute as possible. Not that the OP intended to deceive.
Have to give credit to @gbi2 who googled the info and noticed how the keys matched from the supplier info OP sent on this thread. I just followed through on my suspicion that there's just very little reason to doubt OP from everything they said and also that they ingested an already large amount over the highest recommended dose for ctb of 25g for their weight but they didn't ctb and from that, I assumed that they didn't take NITRITE but NITRATE.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Global Mod
Jun 5, 2023
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Looking back, another tell tale sign is that OP didn't mention anything about lips turning blue. 35g should make someone smurf like!😮
Not just that but the other symptoms as well which as detailed by op in the initial post that started this thread were not in line with what to expect with SN. 35g should be more than enough to end all of us here on this thread if we took it individually, it's absolutely overkill, even more so than anything above 10g. I'm taking 25g because I just wanna make sure that I leave nothing to chance.
 
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roguetrader

Experienced
Feb 17, 2021
246
Not just that but the other symptoms as well which as detailed by op in the initial post that started this thread were not in line with what to expect with SN. 35g should be more than enough to end all of us here on this thread if we took it individually, it's absolutely overkill, even more so than anything above 10g. I'm taking 25g because I just wanna make sure that I leave nothing to chance.
Yup. While SN is only my second choice to use, it's still a super effective method. With the right steps, i estimate its in the 85-95% range as far as effectiveness goes.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Global Mod
Jun 5, 2023
3,140
Yup. While SN is only my second choice to use, it's still a super effective method. With the right steps, i estimate its in the 85-95% range as far as effectiveness goes.
If we're talking effectiveness of this method, that is dependent on following what's already worked for users who we know sadly aren't here anymore such as a regimen and meds even if people have taken just sn, pain pills and antacid and still ctb with no benzos at all to ease anxiety and si. When it's followed to a T, it definitely works quite fast and effectively.
 
ghostbird

ghostbird

Member
Aug 16, 2023
23
I think the inChl info implies it was Sodium Nitrate, not Nitrite.
Wow I can't believe I made such a dumb mistake! Thank you so much for catching that. Well next time should certainly go better now that I know I wasn't even taking the right stuff :pfff:.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Global Mod
Jun 5, 2023
3,140
Wow I can't believe I made such a dumb mistake! Thank you so much for catching that. Well next time should certainly go better now that I know I wasn't even taking the right stuff :pfff:.
Hey, it's ok. Mistakes like that can happen. Once again, I have to thank @gbi2 even though I had suspicion you took something else instead of SN.
 
vipatherappa

vipatherappa

Student
Feb 28, 2023
34
Where did you procure your SN? I've been looking for an alternative to IC since I've been thinking about CTB again and the mental health crisis line disposed of the packet I got delivered a few months back. Is there an easily accessible website that's not on the dark web where you can order SN (international shipping)?
nevermind lol a major e-commerce site in the country I live in sells it seemingly without any legal restrictions. whoopee!
 
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gbi2

Specialist
Jul 10, 2023
314
Wow I can't believe I made such a dumb mistake! Thank you so much for catching that. Well next time should certainly go better now that I know I wasn't even taking the right stuff :pfff:.
If we were paid everytime we made a dumb mistake, I'd be rich and would owe it to the problems that are making me want to ctb!

I was a bit slow myself. I used to work in QA in pharma so I would loosely review (check the data was present rather than the numbers were correct) a lot of assay data for lots of generic medicine, and suddenly remembered to just look up the key.
 
Goku Black

Goku Black

Global Mod
Jun 5, 2023
3,140
I was a bit slow myself. I used to work in QA in pharma so I would loosely review (check the data was present rather than the numbers were correct) a lot of assay data for lots of generic medicine, and suddenly remembered to just look up the key.
Even if you were a bit slow, that was fast thinking on your part to pick on the key because I don't know if anyone else would've figured it out
 

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