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Meditation guide

Meditation guide

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This is from an NIH paper I found interesting:

(23 year old male) presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from (name of store deleted ) (6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.

The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department, the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity.


Two things stand out for me about this. 1. He was unconscious for about 6 hours then woke up. and 2. He had a very severe stomach pain.

Two teaspoons is about 8 g. It alarms me someone could wake up after that. The stomach pain also is disturbing. I had been thinking about taking less than the suggested amount and I can see now it's not a good idea.

I doubt I would have the nerve to drink a second glass of SN after waking up.... Terrifying to think this could happen tbh.
(the store mentioned no longer sells SN)
 
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8g is way less than the recommended 20-25g!
 
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Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
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8g is way less than the recommended 20-25g!
I was reading Sadworlds "experiment" who is gone now where he took 2 or 3 g. of it and apparently passed away, and had been thinking of trying to take less but I'm glad I found this.

The part about the stomach ache is also concerning but .. hopefully you are gone before you suffer that too much.
 
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This is from an NIH paper I found interesting:

(23 year old male) presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from (name of store deleted ) (6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.

The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department, the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity.


Two things stand out for me about this. 1. He was unconscious for about 6 hours then woke up. and 2. He had a very severe stomach pain.

Two teaspoons is about 8 g. It alarms me someone could wake up after that. The stomach pain also is disturbing. I had been thinking about taking less than the suggested amount and I can see now it's not a good idea.

I doubt I would have the nerve to drink a second glass of SN after waking up.... Terrifying to think this could happen tbh.
(the store mentioned no longer sells SN)
Seen this one before. We don't know if he followed a regimen because it doesn't sound like he did considering he woke up in his own faeces which tells me he had a meal before hand which slowed down absorption quite a bit.
 
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6g is an avg. lethal dose for an avg human being. That doesn't mean that everyone dies ingesting this amount there are also many other factors like general health, body strength and so on. A human body can resist attacks against health and life more than people may expect.

SN is a strong poison but the process of dying itself takes several hours even after becoming unconscious. Don't underestimate self-healing power of the body eben when being unconscious.

That's why it is important to follow the protocols to reduce failure risks as much as possible.
 
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6g is an avg. lethal dose for an avg human being. That doesn't mean that everyone dies ingesting this amount there are also many other factors like general health, body strength and so on. A human body can resist attacks against health and life more than people may expect.

SN is a strong poison but the process of dying itself takes several hours even after becoming unconscious. Don't underestimate self-healing power of the body eben when being unconscious.

That's why it is important to follow the protocols to reduce failure risks as much as possible.
See that's the thing, it doesn't sound like this individual followed any protocol, probably just took in the heat of the moment and a good amount of sn probably wasn't absorbed enough into the small intestine through being vomited

I'd be more worried if he woke up having done a regimen properly but even then, the issue would be his sn purity.
 
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8g is probably not enough hmm..
But Penguin drank all together 100g and surprisingly survived though 🤔
 
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One thing I've realized is that people seem to find instances like this and are filled with fear at the chance of that happening to them should they take SN. 8g is a lot however we don't know their weight, underlying conditions and other issues that could point to why he took that much sn but still didn't die.

Look, at this rate, SN isn't good enough anymore and I've even thought of moving on from it but to what I don't know, I don't know why it's still discussed on this forum either considering how much misinformation of sn there has been and changing ideas around sn but for now, I'll hold onto my sn because even if I have everything ready, I'm not sure anymore.
 
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I'd be more worried if he woke up having done a regimen properly but even then, the issue would be his sn purity.
True. We don't know everything to make a final conclusion.
 
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8g is probably not enough hmm..
But Penguin drank all together 100g and surprisingly survived though 🤔
I threw up a lot… I was dry heaving by the end of it.
 
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8g is probably not enough hmm..
But Penguin drank all together 100g and surprisingly survived though 🤔
He called the ambulance a few minutes after ingestion and vomiting and was rescued maybe within 1/2h that's the fact, the earlier you get medical asistence the higher the chances are to survive.
 
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Wait is that how much you took
100g?
No, not 100g. I only had 3 glasses, each containing ~25g. (It is what I remember from my plan I wrote down, I don't remember the exact amounts)
 
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I threw up a lot… I was dry heaving by the end of it.
I see. Btw before you called the ambulance you wrote that you've got ringing in your ears. Do you remember it? How unpleasant was it?
 
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I see. Btw before you called the ambulance you wrote that you've got ringing in your ears. Do you remember it? How unpleasant was it?
I don't remember any of it but all I can say that it must've been very stressful and unpleasant for me.
 
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I don't remember any of it but all I can say that it must've been very stressful and unpleasant for me.
Was it tinnitus?
Possibly aggravated by how stressful and anxiety inducing the whole thing was.

I'd say benzos will work but I don't know.
 
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Was it tinnitus?
Possibly aggravated by how stressful and anxiety inducing the whole thing was.

I'd say benzos will work but I don't know.
Yeah, tinnitus.

I didn't have access to benzos at the time but I'm sure it'd fix it, tinnitus can be caused by the fight-or-flight response and the psychological changes that can affect the inner ear and cause tinnitus (basically anxiety).
 
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Yeah, tinnitus.

I didn't have access to benzos at the time but I'm sure it'd fix it, tinnitus can be caused by the fight-or-flight response and the psychological changes that can affect the inner ear and cause tinnitus (basically anxiety).
Of course, it's a symptom I've seen here before associated with SN.

I definitely think in that case, benzos will help because it did work for people who did ctb with SN in the end.
 
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I didn't have access to benzos at the time but I'm sure it'd fix it, tinnitus can be caused by the fight-or-flight response and the psychological changes that can affect the inner ear and cause tinnitus (basically anxiety).
It can also be caused when blood pressure is falling, which is the case after ingesting SN.
 
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It can also be caused when blood pressure is falling, which is the case after ingesting SN.
That too definitely looks like it could be another reason why it happens, as well the headache.
 
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No, not 100g. I only had 3 glasses, each containing ~25g. (It is what I remember from my plan I wrote down, I don't remember the exact amounts)

And at the hospital the doctors found that there was still some SN left in your stomach, right?

Is that the correlation of amount of SN? The suggested intake being so high since some, or a lot of, emesis is expected?

(Also I read and followed your threads and didn't have anything to add but, hugs and best wishes to you)
 
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And at the hospital the doctors found that there was still some SN left in your stomach, right?

Is that the correlation of amount of SN? The suggested intake being so high since some, or a lot of, emesis is expected?

(Also I read and followed your threads and didn't have anything to add but, hugs and best wishes to you)
Yes, some. I'm really confused as to how some SN stayed in my stomach.. I was dry heaving by the end of it so I couldn't get any more things out of me but some SN stayed.. strange..

I guess it correlates with how much SN I took but of course I vomited so much so again, I don't know how some SN still got into my system.

Glad it didn't cause any permanent damage or any damage for that matter.
 
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The lethal dosage is actually 1g to 2.6g so I also dont know how he survived
It could have been expired , old , not stored properly or not from a reliable company. A reliable company has to provide %, date of manufacture and expiration date. Then the purchaser has to store it away from heat and light. Did the company store it correctly also?
 
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Yes, some. I'm really confused as to how some SN stayed in my stomach.. I was dry heaving by the end of it so I couldn't get any more things out of me but some SN stayed.. strange..

I guess it correlates with how much SN I took but of course I vomited so much so again, I don't know how some SN still got into my system.

Glad it didn't cause any permanent damage or any damage for that matter.
Maybe you dry heaved because of the after-taste if anything. I suspect it still got into your stomach because it isn't a lot of water to begin with
 

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