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AllFoxedOut

AllFoxedOut

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So since he would have died if not for going to the hospital we can at least conclude that his attempt only failed due to his SI kicking in and him calling for help.

*Even with a sensitive stomach.*
Sure. He always planned to call an ambulance should he vomit all three glasses.

It seems we have been talking past each other a bit. He never claimed that vomiting after SN ingestion means you fail to CTB. Just that he thought he vomited it all up, theorises his nausea contributed to that and called an ambulance as he had planned to.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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You can come up with a cover or excuse no matter what can't you?
This isn't an excuse, I know that in my country of residence there are such compounds.

EDIT: And I'm not living in the same country like pengiun.
 
Meditation guide

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@Meditation guide I don't care what you are gonna do and which method you are considering for yourself, it's up 2 u in any case! But I would like to know whether you are afraid of taking SN (and failing) or not?

I personally don't consider SN for myself bc I don't want to vomit, I don't want to feel nauseous and I don't have a realistic chance to acquire the suggested meds to have a more or less "peaceful passing". My preferred method is CO (with charcoal).I d
I don't have a choice of what to use. Of course I would love to have a 100% guarantee it works and apparently even WITH A SENSITIVE STOMACH IT WORKS. Yay.

I'm confident at least 80% of the time people lose consciousness within 15 minutes and continue on to that blissful place in the sky.
 
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You can come up with a cover or excuse no matter what can't you?

The point is this: I don't believe him, and if it IS true it proves SN works because he would have died if not for SI kicking in.
You didn't respond to my request for a source of him claiming he vomited for four hours, he said himself he likely would have died if he didn't call an ambulance, and you never replied to my breakdown of your reasons for doubting his story.

Can you please relax on attacking individual's experiences? It's distressing to those individuals. He has no reason to lie or scaremonger and even says he will do SN again in the future with extra metoclopramide.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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I don't have a choice of what to use. Of course I would love to have a 100% guarantee it works and apparently even WITH A SENSITIVE STOMACH IT WORKS. Yay.
Yes SN works unless you call for help early enough or you are "rescued" bc someone found you too early by accident. Again, SN has an antidote (Methyleneblue) and SN isn't an instant death not even if someone is unconscious already.

We all would like to have 100% peaceful methods, like N, but they are not available and we have to accept the possible risks. That's again just my personal opinion.

It's unfortunately so hard to leave this world.
 
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I personally don't consider SN for myself bc I don't want to vomit, I don't want to feel nauseous and I don't have a realistic chance to acquire the suggested meds to have a more or less "peaceful passing". My preferred method is CO (with charcoal).
All very valid reasons to not consider SN.
and SN isn't an instant death not even if someone is unconscious already.
It isn't instant like many other methods sure but it is a fast killer with what it does the cardiovascular system and tissue oxygenation. This is why being saved by M-blue is so time dependent.
 
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It isn't instant like many other methods sure but it is a fast killer with what it does the cardiovascular system and tissue oxygenation. This is why being saved by M-blue is so time dependent.
Exactly! Thanks for pointing out this. It's time dependent.

If someone wants to make sure there is no antidote and no rescue after a few minutes the only other option is KCN (cyanide) which is painful and highly toxic also for other people finding the corpse. This is not an encouragement, they are the facts.
 
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Exactly! Thanks for pointing out this. It's time dependent.

If someone wants to make sure there is no antidote and no rescue after a few minutes the only other option is KCN (cyanide) which is painful and highly toxic also for other people finding the corpse. This is not an encouragement, they are the facts.
True, I did once consider Potassium cyanide myself after all even if it isn't cyanide all the way.
 
アホペンギン

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@Meditation guide
I didn't vomit for 4 hours where did you get that from
its impossible to vomit for 4 hours
 
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@Meditation guide
I didn't vomit for 4 hours where did you get that from
its impossible to vomit for 4 hours
So hopefully, this ends the conversation and without this thread having to be closed.
 
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This is from an NIH paper I found interesting:

(23 year old male) presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from (name of store deleted ) (6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.

The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department, the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity.


Two things stand out for me about this. 1. He was unconscious for about 6 hours then woke up. and 2. He had a very severe stomach pain.

Two teaspoons is about 8 g. It alarms me someone could wake up after that. The stomach pain also is disturbing. I had been thinking about taking less than the suggested amount and I can see now it's not a good idea.

I doubt I would have the nerve to drink a second glass of SN after waking up.... Terrifying to think this could happen tbh.
(the store mentioned no longer sells SN)
Yes, it makes one pause... I have bad brain fog and can't follow the directions for the Helium or Nitrogen inhalation method. The Hydrogen Sulfide method will end a life in about 15 long seconds. It sounds pretty easy but it can KILL first responders. I would have to find a remote area, plaster signs all over my car, hope that I get cell phone reception so I can let first responders know how to find me and to wear hazmat suits, etc. I think I'll end up just getting a gun but I have SO many questions about the type and the type of bullets. BTW, I'm not depressed. I'm sleepless and in agony because of it.
 

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