Resource Hanging Comfortably

[HannahB]

I decided on a day, my birthday I'm turning 27 so seems fitting. My method is hanging and I've done a ton of research I'd like to share before it's to late.
The first time I tried to hang myself it hurt. I felt like I needed to cough from my windpipe being crushed and like my head was going to explode. If you experience this you are doing it wrong.
There are a few ways to perish by hanging.
1) lack of bloodflow to brain
2) lack of oxygen to the brain from lack of air
3) too much bloodflow to the brain
4) breaking your neck
The first opinion is your best.
Pressing on your windpipe tell you cannot breath not only hurts like hell but triggers the co2 panic response. Too much bloodflow to the brain make your head feel like exploding. This happens when you dont have enough pressure on rope. You have artery going into your brain and the jugulars draining blood from the brain. The jugular are easy to compress so when you dont have enough pressure to close the arteries the pressure in your head builds and builds and even when you die your head is bloated and purple not the way to go. Breaking your neck is very very very difficult. You must calculate your weight and height of drop the rope size and even then you can mess up and choke to death.
So again number 1 is the best option cut off all inward and outward flow of blood without crushing the trachea. How do we accomplish this?
First let's talk ligiture size and texture.
The width of the ligature matters. Yes you can accomplish this with a belt or a scarf but I'm going for comfort. Contrary to popular belief wider isnt more comfortable. Yes it may be more cofortable on the skin initially but the inability to close the arteries quickly makes it uncomfortable with the extreme head bloating. I reccomend bdsm rope its cotton or a blend and usually no bigger than a finger in width. But anything finger size or smaller will do even paracord or small wires and cords.
Now let's talk placement the most important part. Where to stick the rope on the neck.
The most common approach is to stick the ligature at the top of the neck near the jaw line and above the Adam's apple. I have found this is the most UNCOMFORTABLE place. The pressure of the ligature on the neck constricts the trachea and makes you need to cough or feel like choking. DO NOT PLACE THE ROPE AT THE TOP OF YOUR NECK.
The very base of the neck with the rope resting on the collar bones before tightening is an ok but still not recommended spot. The muscles at the base of the neck are big enough to protect your trachea but are too big to allow you to easily compress the arteries going to the brain.
The best placement of the rope is half ways between your Adam's apple and the base of your neck. Or about one to two fingers widths down from the middle of the Adam's apple. So if we visually sectioned the neck into thirds it would be the first line up from the bottom. This is the most comfortable spot it's easy to compress everything and I pass out in about 10 seconds with no airway restriction or discomfort.
Lastly lest talk knots and placement relative to face.
There is absolutely no need to learn the hangman's knot or any hard complex knots. I have found that the more complex the knot the more friction it makes and the harder it is to compress the neck. So the two best options I have found are:
1. Slip knot- slides very easily can quickly be undone and doesnt pinch
2. D rings or any kind of metal ring tied to the end of the rope makes for a frictionless slide with no pinching.

As for placement:
if the knot itself is in the front of the neck it reduces the force applied to the arteries and veins because they are close to the front of your neck not the sides.
If the knot is placed on the side of the neck it reduces the force applied to the veins and arteries on that side
If the knot is placed at the back of the neck it achieves optimal pressure on the front of the neck. The back of the neck is the best option.

Final notes:
1.Make sure what you attach your rope to is strong and I mean really strong.
2. Dont add padding under the rope it reduces pressure
3. You can test placement by wrapping the rope around your neck without tying a knot. Just crisscross it in the back grab each side of the rope and extend your arms outwards to the side tigentining it around your neck. If you pass out it will come loose and you'll be safe and sound. It's a great way to get over the SI attached to the sinking/fading away feeling by practicing loving the high.

You guys have been so amazing and have helped me so much I hope this helps you.

 

[Sunset Limited]

This is not my method, but I've seen many videos that prove to be painless and reliable when done correctly. I only have one CTB trial. That was my way. As you described, I felt terrible pressure in my head. I couldnt near to fading away.

 

[Trisolaris]

The best placement of the rope is half ways between your Adam's apple and the base of your neck. Or about one to two fingers widths down from the middle of the Adam's apple. So if we visually sectioned the neck into thirds it would be the first line up from the bottom. This is the most comfortable spot it's easy to compress everything and I pass out in about 10 seconds with no airway restriction or discomfort.

I agree with that. The only attempt in which I lost consciousness was when I placed the rope in this position.

 

[R_N]

Thanks for this. Good info.

 

[LivingToLong]

I'm a bit puzzled by the rope placement. I thought stopping blood flow to the brain was achieved by applying pressure to the carotid arteries. Unless rope placement is high at the back of the neck (I.e. base of the skull), I don't see the rope compresses the carotids if it is placed below the Adams Apple at the front.

 

[HannahB]

I'm a bit puzzled by the rope placement. I thought stopping blood flow to the brain was achieved by applying pressure to the carotid arteries. Unless rope placement is high at the back of the neck (I.e. base of the skull), I don't see the rope compresses the carotids if it is placed below the Adams Apple at the front.

The carotid arteries branch on both sides near the jaw. And yes you CAN compress them there but it requires more force because one branch is deeper and has a higher rate of failure due to the fact theres now 4 paths instead of 2. Not to mention it crushes your trachea. By going lower you can use the sternocleidomastoid to compress the arteries by pressing it into the omohyoid with a rope while still protecting the trachea from the rope with the same muscles.


Not labeled is the omohyoid which sits behind the sternocleidomastoid

 

[LivingToLong]

Thanks @HannahB I'm going to do a bit more reading on this.

I've had difficulty with compressing the carotids at the higher point. I think I can find them ok but no amount of pressure (with my fingers) seems to induce anything like unconsciousness. Maybe I just have a thick/muscled neck??

So maybe going lower and attempting to compress the carotid arteries and the jugular veins (so suppressing blood flow to the brain both in and out) at the base of the neck might prove more successful.

 

[zeroambition]

Thanks for the great info!

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

Excellent job.

 

[Heart of Ice]

if the knot itself is in the front of the neck it reduces the force applied to the arteries and veins because they are close to the front of your neck not the sides.
If the knot is placed on the side of the neck it reduces the force applied to the veins and arteries on that side
If the knot is placed at the back of the neck it achieves optimal pressure on the front of the neck. The back of the neck is the best option.

I tend to disagree with this. I found that if I placed the knot on the front of the neck, it avoided the trachea and still achieved enough pressure. Placing the knot on the back is the most common method, but I found that to pressure the trachea and to press uncomfortably on the skin on the throat. If your knot is exactly in the middle of the neck and in front, it won't lessen the pressure on the carotids. However, the size of the knot, rope material (and anatomical differences maybe) might matter here.

I recommend anyone reading to experiment. Contrary to belief here, partial hanging is not difficult. The hardest part is absolutely the will to do it. This is a method that is very personal and intimate, much more personal than opening a valve for helium or ingesting some salty water with nitrite.

Anyway, this is a good guide. And I absolutely agree that padding is not needed and actually only makes matters more difficult.

 

[BadDoctors]

I decided on a day, my birthday I'm turning 27 so seems fitting. My method is hanging and I've done a ton of research I'd like to share before it's to late.
The first time I tried to hang myself it hurt. I felt like I needed to cough from my windpipe being crushed and like my head was going to explode. If you experience this you are doing it wrong.
There are a few ways to perish by hanging.
1) lack of bloodflow to brain
2) lack of oxygen to the brain from lack of air
3) too much bloodflow to the brain
4) breaking your neck
The first opinion is your best.
Pressing on your windpipe tell you cannot breath not only hurts like hell but triggers the co2 panic response. Too much bloodflow to the brain make your head feel like exploding. This happens when you dont have enough pressure on rope. You have artery going into your brain and the jugulars draining blood from the brain. The jugular are easy to compress so when you dont have enough pressure to close the arteries the pressure in your head builds and builds and even when you die your head is bloated and purple not the way to go. Breaking your neck is very very very difficult. You must calculate your weight and height of drop the rope size and even then you can mess up and choke to death.
So again number 1 is the best option cut off all inward and outward flow of blood without crushing the trachea. How do we accomplish this?
First let's talk ligiture size and texture.
The width of the ligature matters. Yes you can accomplish this with a belt or a scarf but I'm going for comfort. Contrary to popular belief wider isnt more comfortable. Yes it may be more cofortable on the skin initially but the inability to close the arteries quickly makes it uncomfortable with the extreme head bloating. I reccomend bdsm rope its cotton or a blend and usually no bigger than a finger in width. But anything finger size or smaller will do even paracord or small wires and cords.
Now let's talk placement the most important part. Where to stick the rope on the neck.
The most common approach is to stick the ligature at the top of the neck near the jaw line and above the Adam's apple. I have found this is the most UNCOMFORTABLE place. The pressure of the ligature on the neck constricts the trachea and makes you need to cough or feel like choking. DO NOT PLACE THE ROPE AT THE TOP OF YOUR NECK.
The very base of the neck with the rope resting on the collar bones before tightening is an ok but still not recommended spot. The muscles at the base of the neck are big enough to protect your trachea but are too big to allow you to easily compress the arteries going to the brain.
The best placement of the rope is half ways between your Adam's apple and the base of your neck. Or about one to two fingers widths down from the middle of the Adam's apple. So if we visually sectioned the neck into thirds it would be the first line up from the bottom. This is the most comfortable spot it's easy to compress everything and I pass out in about 10 seconds with no airway restriction or discomfort.
Lastly lest talk knots and placement relative to face.
There is absolutely no need to learn the hangman's knot or any hard complex knots. I have found that the more complex the knot the more friction it makes and the harder it is to compress the neck. So the two best options I have found are:
1. Slip knot- slides very easily can quickly be undone and doesnt pinch
2. D rings or any kind of metal ring tied to the end of the rope makes for a frictionless slide with no pinching.

As for placement:
if the knot itself is in the front of the neck it reduces the force applied to the arteries and veins because they are close to the front of your neck not the sides.
If the knot is placed on the side of the neck it reduces the force applied to the veins and arteries on that side
If the knot is placed at the back of the neck it achieves optimal pressure on the front of the neck. The back of the neck is the best option.

Final notes:
1.Make sure what you attach your rope to is strong and I mean really strong.
2. Dont add padding under the rope it reduces pressure
3. You can test placement by wrapping the rope around your neck without tying a knot. Just crisscross it in the back grab each side of the rope and extend your arms outwards to the side tigentining it around your neck. If you pass out it will come loose and you'll be safe and sound. It's a great way to get over the SI attached to the sinking/fading away feeling by practicing loving the high.

You guys have been so amazing and have helped me so much I hope this helps you.

Good write up.

 

[Readytogo#Broken]

Really helpful, reading, esp when the fear of not succeeding ctb by this method, hope you get the peace you ALL deserve

 

[HannahB]

Really helpful, reading, esp when the fear of not succeeding ctb by this method, hope you get the peace you ALL deserve

Thank you :)

 

[TAW122]

Thank you for sharing and I will consider this method as well should I (for any reason or cause) be unable to CTB via a firearm. I am still having trouble finding my carotid arteries, let alone compressing/pushing against them. I would say that I have a thick neck, so I don't know if that makes it even trickier to find.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

Just found my carotid arheries, began to pass out really quick, but I am compressing then with my fingers, how do I use this knowledge with a rope I wonder

 

[Secrets1]

Once I found those D rings too it was almost game over lol. Didn't want to share bc it seems too easy + accessible for impulsive CTB'ing. 5* guide though. Learned lots, noted! Thank you

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

Once I found those D rings too it was almost game over lol. Didn't want to share bc it seems too easy + accessible for impulsive CTB'ing. 5* guide though. Learned lots, noted! Thank you

Tell me your secrets, I am not gonna ctb on impulse, promise

 

[Pan]

Thank you :)

This. Well informed article much to allay my fears regarding hanging...best to you

I agree with that. The only attempt in which I lost consciousness was when I placed the rope in this position.

Thanx for confirming this.

 

[56709]

I'm no longer considering this method but I appreciate you posting this for the people that are.

 

[NotSoComfortablyNumb]

I

Really helpful, reading, esp when the fear of not succeeding ctb by this method, hope you get the peace you ALL deserve

just failed at this. And it was terrifying. I had a top tied up over my door but it didn't be work

 

[Backwood_tilt]

I

just failed at this. And it was terrifying. I had a top tied up over my door but it didn't be work

what failed in particular? did you not fully give in to your weight so that your arteries and jugulars were pinched off? did the rope break, door not hold?

 

[NotSoComfortablyNumb]

what failed in particular? did you not fully give in to your weight so that your arteries and jugulars were pinched off? did the rope break, door not hold?

I gave into my weight and it was working but then I must've pushed the wrong part coz it was cutting in and it hurt so I freaked out

 

[Backwood_tilt]

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Very helpful post. I ended up buying a BDSM style hemp rope 6mm in diameter. In my experiments the ligature left no marks on my neck, which was helpful since i had to go see people after my first failed attempt.

However, i think the points about placement are still very individual and depend on anatomy. I tried towards the base of my neck below the adam's apple, but the only time i was close to fainting was when it was situated at the top of my neck very close to my chin.

I'll be going at 27 too :) Wishing you peace and serenity in your transition.

 

[NotSoComfortablyNumb]

Very helpful post. I ended up buying a BDSM style hemp rope 6mm in diameter. In my experiments the ligature left no marks on my neck, which was helpful since i had to go see people after my first failed attempt.

However, i think the points about placement are still very individual and depend on anatomy. I tried towards the base of my neck below the adam's apple, but the only time i was close to fainting was when it was situated at the top of my neck very close to my chin.

I'll be going at 27 too :) Wishing you peace and serenity in your transition.

27 forever xxx

 

[Backwood_tilt]

I gave into my weight and it was working but then I must've pushed the wrong part coz it was cutting in and it hurt so I freaked out

The rope was cutting in to your neck? I have only experimented with one type of rope that is made for bondage as the OP suggested, so maybe you need something softer that can still apply the requisite pressure?

Don't be too discouraged. People have succeeded with scarves, extension cords, etc, so keep in the back of your mind that it is a definite possibility. Survival instinct is tough to fight and we all have to find our own ways to conquer it. Someone had a good post here today or yesterday about fighting it, basically using something akin to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy or self-talk to suppress the instinct.

 

[NotSoComfortablyNumb]

The rope was cutting in to your neck? I have only experimented with one type of rope that is made for bondage as the OP suggested, so maybe you need something softer that can still apply the requisite pressure?

Don't be too discouraged. People have succeeded with scarves, extension cords, etc, so keep in the back of your mind that it is a definite possibility. Survival instinct is tough to fight and we all have to find our own ways to conquer it. Someone had a good post here today or yesterday about fighting it, basically using something akin to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy or self-talk to suppress the instinct.

Ok thank you. I am really ready to CTB and I'm sick of having to wait tbh. Out of fear. I'd like to do a night night method but I was ill informed. Thank you guys for putting the choice back in MY hands xxx

 

[Backwood_tilt]

Ok thank you. I am really ready to CTB and I'm sick of having to wait tbh. Out of fear. I'd like to do a night night method but I was ill informed. Thank you guys for putting the choice back in MY hands xxx

You definitely have options.

I'm still not certain if the pain you are describing is compressing the jugulars but not the arteries - hence causing the blood to pool in your head with nowhere to go - or if it was pressing your trachea and causing a CO2 buildup that made you panic. Or if it just the rope. But there are definitely enough resources here to help you !!

 

[HannahB]

Ok thank you. I am really ready to CTB and I'm sick of having to wait tbh. Out of fear. I'd like to do a night night method but I was ill informed. Thank you guys for putting the choice back in MY hands xxx

Please know that in the end most any ligature will work. A belt, a scarf, even a sheet. These are suggestions based on my experience and are not law. Whatever is most comfortable for you is what you should do regardless of what anyone else says on here.

 

[Backwood_tilt]

I am failing, but it might be because i have circulatory issues.

A BDSM style 100% hemp rope (6mm diameter) with a properly tied slipknot and anchor point plus sufficient force going down did NOT work for me. I am no where close to blacking out even after two minutes, doing partial suspension on my feet.

Suffice it to say this is just MY experience and should not deter anyone in any way from doing this. Plenty of people hang successfully every day, I bet. In my case, I am going to keep trying and keep altering variables to see what might finally make the difference, before i consider something more impulsive or perhaps an exitbag.

 

[NotSoComfortablyNumb]

I am failing, but it might be because i have circulatory issues.

A BDSM style 100% hemp rope (6mm diameter) with a properly tied slipknot and anchor point plus sufficient force going down did NOT work for me. I am no where close to blacking out even after two minutes, doing partial suspension on my feet.

Suffice it to say this is just MY experience and should not deter anyone in any way from doing this. Plenty of people hang successfully every day, I bet. In my case, I am going to keep trying and keep altering variables to see what might finally make the difference, before i consider something more impulsive or perhaps an exitbag.

My next resort was to tie high and kick out and fall. Stuff it. But I'm sure there's a less scary and horrible way to do it. I'm scared of breaking my neck but not dying. If I end up vegetative I'll be so gutted :,(