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ibuprofen_ninja

ibuprofen_ninja

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Oct 26, 2021
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This might be difficult to comprehend, but everywhere you look regarding suicide they insist that you can hang yourself by wrapping something like a scarf around your neck, tying the other end to a ligature point, and kneeling and that that'll kill you somehow. Feel free to chip
in if your personal experience with hanging has been different, but from my experience the notion that you can wrap something around your neck kneel down and die is completely absurd. The only ways in which I've nearly killed myself by hanging has been via full suspension hanging, because when you're fully suspended your body weight causes the noose to constrict enough to close off your airways and your arteries. Like I said if your experience has been different feel free to comment on this post, but I don't personally believe that partial suspension hanging can kill a man, I certainly couldn't kill myself doing it. Maybe they're trying to save lives by advertising this "method" everywhere, I don't know.
 
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Ash

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Oct 4, 2021
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People tend to fail with partial for a few reasons. They close off the jugular not the carotids and that hurts like hell and induces panic. It's very easy to shift position and remove the pressure. Or people don't have good enough anchors or ligatures or, as in my case, didn't have a good enough knot. The method is harder than full suspension or drop suspension but more accessible.

"They" aren't lying about anything. I don't know what's got you so worked up - and I'm sorry about that - but misinformation doesn't help anyone except the pro lifers.
 
ibuprofen_ninja

ibuprofen_ninja

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I mean maybe it works, but the only time I've ever come close to dying or have even felt pain while trying to exit has been when I was fully suspended. Maybe the noose wasn't high enough when I was kneeling down?
I hear tales of people dying when kneeling using an exercise band or a rolled up laundry bag. Mindful of my own experiences those stories sound completely absurd aha
 
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rozeske

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Dec 2, 2023
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It's actually the most commonly practiced hanging than full suspension. If you happened to look around case studies and suicide reports you can find many case reports of not only kneeling but also sitting and laying on the ground. One study even shows out of 242 cases of hanging suicide reports 200 of them were where the body was partially touching the ground. Not being being able to make it work or not understanding the trick is a whole other thing.
 
ibuprofen_ninja

ibuprofen_ninja

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It's actually the most commonly practiced hanging than full suspension. If you happened to look around case studies and suicide reports you can find many case reports of not only kneeling but also sitting and laying on the ground. One study even shows out of 242 cases of hanging suicide reports 200 of them were where the body was partially touching the ground. Not being being able to make it work or not understanding the trick is a whole other thing.
Have you tried it yourself though? I'm speaking from experience and the notion of hanging yourself while lying down is almost absurdly ludicrous
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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The only ways in which I've nearly killed myself by hanging has been via full suspension
That's the way to go imo.

Partial is difficult for many people and it also has a high failure rate. If I chose hanging as my method I'd only do full suspension and with a rope. That's how this method works best since centuries.
 
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Endisclose

Experienced
Oct 23, 2023
272
There's enough documentary evidence and academic literature to prove that it works. SI can be a problem with this method though. I think taking alcohol or sedatives can help overcome that. Either kneeling, sitting or partially standing with the knees bent, with the body weighing down, the carotids should most certainly be blocked causing ctb to happen.
 
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rozeske

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Dec 2, 2023
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Have you tried it yourself though? I'm speaking from experience and the notion of hanging yourself while lying down is almost absurdly ludicrous
I wouldn't be here if I made it work but just because it didn't work for me doesn't mean it's absurd. Or maybe you are right and on all those reports they may have taken dead people from full hanging and positioned them in to partial to trick us.
 
FadingDawn

FadingDawn

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Jul 18, 2023
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Isn't partial how kate spade, Anthony bout rain and robin williams have killed themselves? One with a scarf, another with a bathrobe belt, and the last with a normal belt?
None of them seemed to practice, which is why I thought it'd be a good option for me. But it can be very hard to get right, and hard to continue if you're only choking or feeling very dizzy but not passed out
I'm
guys guys, ignore everything I said. I just gave it another go and it does work, nevermind lol
I was doing it wrong
hey could you please expend..???!!! What did you use and how does it work
 
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ibuprofen_ninja

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Isn't partial how kate spade, Anthony bout rain and robin williams have killed themselves? One with a scarf, another with a bathrobe belt, and the last with a normal belt?
None of them seemed to practice, which is why I thought it'd be a good option for me. But it can be very hard to get right, and hard to continue if you're only choking or feeling very dizzy but not passed out
I'm

hey could you please expend..???!!! What did you use and how does it work
there are a few others who died this way too allegedly, Chris Cornell with an exercise band, a certain serial killer with a rolled up laundry bag. Ifind it hard to believe that, even knowing that it does work, I am confused that they managed to make it work with something as soft as a bathrobe belt or a scarf. takes a really sturdy material in my experience
 
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FadingDawn

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Hei CT
there are a few others who died this way too allegedly, Chris Cornell with an exercise band, a certain serial killer with a rolled up laundry bag. Ifind it hard to believe that, even knowing that it does work, I am confused that they managed to make it work with something as soft as a bathrobe belt or a scarf. takes a really sturdy material in my experience
how can you be sure you pressed down the carotid tho, and it didn't slip away from there — especially a broad belt that covers a lot of your neck and shifts position once pressure is applied
 
ibuprofen_ninja

ibuprofen_ninja

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in all honesty I've no idea if I've ever compressed the carotid successfully. all I know is that if the rope tightens right under my jaw, I start to pass out (and choke a bit)
 
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locked*n*loaded

locked*n*loaded

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My cousin killed himself pretty much the exact way as the OP described. He tied one end of something to a clothing rod in a closet, the other end around his neck, and then simply leaned forward.
 
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ibuprofen_ninja

ibuprofen_ninja

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How were you doing it wrong before and what changed?
I think I was placing the rope at the base and middle of my neck and I wasn't kneeling too forcefully (bit scared of choking at first). Then I tried placing the rope directly beneath my jaw, got down on my knees, and tried pressing against the rope harder, and low and behold my body started losing feeling and I could feel myself passing out.

be mindful that if you intend to copy me you'll need a very firm rope
 
4everDone

4everDone

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Feb 2, 2024
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>the most simplest being called upon them
>used for many centuries
>still falls to step off the stuhl
>failure
 
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Jorms_McGander

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Oct 17, 2023
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Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it's not valid. I mean, most people are heterosexual but I've tried straight sex many times and it really didn't work. #JustSaying
Omg I'm just impartially browsing and absorbing the conversation and to be tricked into a guffaw hahaha nice wit. Thank you lol
 
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I think I was placing the rope at the base and middle of my neck and I wasn't kneeling too forcefully (bit scared of choking at first). Then I tried placing the rope directly beneath my jaw, got down on my knees, and tried pressing against the rope harder, and low and behold my body started losing feeling and I could feel myself passing out.

be mindful that if you intend to copy me you'll need a very firm rope
So you passed out or felt like passing out? Cause I don't know what passing out feels like
 
ibuprofen_ninja

ibuprofen_ninja

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Oct 26, 2021
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So you passed out or felt like passing out? Cause I don't know what passing out feels like
I stopped before I passed out completely, in honesty I've never passed out before either; but once the rope was tight I could feel my body going numb, felt my senses growing more faint, and my vision gradually began fading out to grey.
and there was a feeling like my head was about to pop (not too painfully though)
 
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axab43

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Mar 10, 2024
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This might be difficult to comprehend, but everywhere you look regarding suicide they insist that you can hang yourself by wrapping something like a scarf around your neck, tying the other end to a ligature point, and kneeling and that that'll kill you somehow. Feel free to chip
in if your personal experience with hanging has been different, but from my experience the notion that you can wrap something around your neck kneel down and die is completely absurd. The only ways in which I've nearly killed myself by hanging has been via full suspension hanging, because when you're fully suspended your body weight causes the noose to constrict enough to close off your airways and your arteries. Like I said if your experience has been different feel free to comment on this post, but I don't personally believe that partial suspension hanging can kill a man, I certainly couldn't kill myself doing it. Maybe they're trying to save lives by advertising this "method" everywhere, I don't know.
This might be difficult to comprehend, but everywhere you look regarding suicide they insist that you can hang yourself by wrapping something like a scarf around your neck, tying the other end to a ligature point, and kneeling and that that'll kill you somehow. Feel free to chip
in if your personal experience with hanging has been different, but from my experience the notion that you can wrap something around your neck kneel down and die is completely absurd. The only ways in which I've nearly killed myself by hanging has been via full suspension hanging, because when you're fully suspended your body weight causes the noose to constrict enough to close off your airways and your arteries. Like I said if your experience has been different feel free to comment on this post, but I don't personally believe that partial suspension hanging can kill a man, I certainly couldn't kill myself doing it. Maybe they're trying to save lives by advertising this "method" everywhere, I don't know.
Robin Williams made it work though, he died by partially hanging himself with a belt
 
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WoNkEy_DoNkEy

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It's NOT a good method. It can work for some people but it's a luck not skill thing. Kinda like how one person catches COVID and their twin doesn't. Anatomical variations determine who can and can't make it work. People attempt it because it's easy and can kinda be attempted risk free but only desperation and lack of resources justify even thinking about this method.
 
ibuprofen_ninja

ibuprofen_ninja

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Oct 26, 2021
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Robin Williams made it work though, he died by partially hanging himself with a belt
I've gone back on my statement, I've tried it properly now and it does work... with a sturdy rope. God knows how someone does it with a belt or a scarf, but I can make it work with a rope
It's NOT a good method. It can work for some people but it's a luck not skill thing. Kinda like how one person catches COVID and their twin doesn't. Anatomical variations determine who can and can't make it work. People attempt it because it's easy and can kinda be attempted risk free but only desperation and lack of resources justify even thinking about this method.
what do you mean when you say it's "not a good method" I thought hanging was the most popular method worldwide??
 

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