Method Guys, leaving all the fluff aside, realistically how much painful can SN poisoning be?

[danielplainview]

Let's be very brutal and blunt. How much painful and agonizing could it be?

 

[red_cardinal]

From the videos I've seen, it doesn't look agonizing, but it doesn't look completely peaceful either. I'd say somewhere between 4 and 6 when it comes to how uncomfortable it is, depending on the person, protocol, the dose etc.

 

[danielplainview]

From the videos I've seen, it doesn't look agonizing, but it doesn't look completely peaceful either. I'd say somewhere between 4 and 6 when it comes to how uncomfortable it is, depending on the person, protocol, the dose etc.

That's quite good then if it's not agonizing.

 

[red_cardinal]

That's quite good then if it's not agonizing.

If the person also takes a benzo/another sedative and a beta-blocker, I think this will reduce the discomfort.

 

[danielplainview]

If the person also takes a benzo/another sedative and a beta-blocker, I think this will reduce the discomfort.

What are some other sedatives?

 

[red_cardinal]

What are some other sedatives?

I read that some people who didn't have access to benzos used quetiapine (antipsychotic with sedating effects) or other psych meds that have a sedating effect.

 

[danielplainview]

I read that some people who didn't have access to benzos used quetiapine (antipsychotic with sedating effects) or other psych meds that have a sedating effect.

Okay, thanks.

 

[isthisthingon]

Let's be very brutal and blunt. How much painful and agonizing could it be?

You die from a lack of oxygen, right? I've always feared there is suffocation elements.

 

[danielplainview]

You die from a lack of oxygen, right? I've always feared there is suffocation elements.

I am not sure if there's literal suffocation.

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

How did he vomit and suffer with the perfect SN protocol?

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/366114/man-records-his-own-rather-peaceful People in the comments are saying he suffered and threw up. He had all the right third for a painless ctb. Can someone explain??

sanctioned-suicide.net

video of man dying by SN

This guy puked soon after taking the SN, and he kept puking... How are we supposed to drink a second dose in such circumstances? And he didn't take a second one. And in the case you can take a second one what's the point? You will puke right after taking it...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Can see for yourself

 

[Higurashi415]

"How painful CAN it be" is the question OP asked, which I would interpret as "how bad can it possibly be".

SN can be very bad. I'm not a medical doctor, but as far as I understand, what happens is that your blood physically can't transport oxygen anymore, and you suffocate to death. No matter how much you breathe, it's impossible for you to bring that oxygen around. Way different than what happens in a blood choke, think FSH or PH or a BJJ rear naked choke. While this happens, your body will try to get rid of the SN NO MATTER WHAT (even with fasting/AE/benzo/paracetamol), mostly in the form of puking.

(Sidenote: some users on this forum said that the people in those videos, who suffered a lot by the looks of it, didn't follow the protocol and/or they didn't take benzos. We don't *know* that they didn't and as far as I know there is no reason at all to suppose that they didn't follow the protocol. For example in most videos they don't puke a lot, and there's a lot of dry heaving, which indicates AT LEAST fasting.)

SN's reputation on this forum is underserved and it's a 6/10 on the peacefulness scale on the PPeH anyway, which really isn't that good.
For reference, on a scale of 1 to 10 Nembutal is 10, morphine is 10, Sodium Azide is 5(!) and carbon monoxide is 8/10 (!!). But maybe 6/10 is acceptable to you. Since we have videos, it's undeniable that it can produce excruciating pain (in case it wasn't obvious enough that drinking SN isn't painful...), and the 6/10 shows that, too. It has 4 extra points of pain (out of 10, mind you) when compared to Morphine and Nembutal.

Again, I remind you that OP specifically asked for SN, not about its combination with a bunch of other drugs, like the whole fasting+AE+benzo+paracetamol thing.

Frankly, I even doubt it's 6/10. When discussing how painful SN is, it would be fair to only stick to SN. When you're discussing a drug you're discussing THAT drug, not the 5 other drugs you could possible consume that one drug with. I mean, by that logic you could say that falling on a bed of nails from 50ft is painless, because you can OD on an opioid before the fall. Idk, seems wrong to me.

TL;DR: how painful is SN? Probably a lot. The 6/10 on the PPeH is only true *when you include a bunch of other drugs*, the substance itself is obviously horrible and brutal. Definitely don't raw dog SN and think 100 times before choosing it as a method even if you have the other drugs at hand. We should stop acting like SN is the Holy Grail, it's giving a false impression.

 

[danielplainview]

"How painful CAN it be" is the question OP asked, which I would interpret as "how bad can it possibly be".

SN can be very bad. I'm not a medical doctor, but as far as I understand, what happens is that your blood physically can't transport oxygen anymore, and you suffocate to death. No matter how much you breathe, it's impossible for you to bring that oxygen around. Way different than what happens in a blood choke, think FSH or PH or a BJJ rear naked choke. While this happens, your body will try to get rid of the SN NO MATTER WHAT (even with fasting/AE/benzo/paracetamol), mostly in the form of puking.

(Sidenote: some users on this forum said that the people in those videos, who suffered a lot by the looks of it, didn't follow the protocol and/or they didn't take benzos. We don't *know* that they didn't and as far as I know there is no reason at all to suppose that they didn't follow the protocol. For example in most videos they don't puke a lot, and there's a lot of dry heaving, which indicates AT LEAST fasting.)

SN's reputation on this forum is underserved and it's a 6/10 on the peacefulness scale on the PPeH anyway, which really isn't that good.
For reference, on a scale of 1 to 10 Nembutal is 10, morphine is 10, Sodium Azide is 5(!) and carbon monoxide is 8/10 (!!). But maybe 6/10 is acceptable to you. Since we have videos, it's undeniable that it can produce excruciating pain (in case it wasn't obvious enough that drinking SN isn't painful...), and the 6/10 shows that, too. It has 4 extra points of pain (out of 10, mind you) when compared to Morphine and Nembutal.

Again, I remind you that OP specifically asked for SN, not about its combination with a bunch of other drugs, like the whole fasting+AE+benzo+paracetamol thing.

Frankly, I even doubt it's 6/10. When discussing how painful SN is, it would be fair to only stick to SN. When you're discussing a drug you're discussing THAT drug, not the 5 other drugs you could possible consume that one drug with. I mean, by that logic you could say that falling on a bed of nails from 50ft is painless, because you can OD on an opioid before the fall. Idk, seems wrong to me.

TL;DR: how painful is SN? Probably a lot. The 6/10 on the PPeH is only true *when you include a bunch of other drugs*, the substance itself is obviously horrible and brutal. Definitely don't raw dog SN and think 100 times before choosing it as a method even if you have the other drugs at hand. We should stop acting like SN is the Holy Grail, it's giving a false impression.

You seem extremely negative about it.

 

[BradGuy123]

TL;DR: how painful is SN? Probably a lot. The 6/10 on the PPeH is only true *when you include a bunch of other drugs*, the substance itself is obviously horrible and brutal. Definitely don't raw dog SN and think 100 times before choosing it as a method even if you have the other drugs at hand. We should stop acting like SN is the Holy Grail, it's giving a false impression.

Thanks for posting this. I've wondering how it can be peaceful if you die from a lack of oxygen. I'd think it would be a panicked feeling. I have seen videos of people wrenching and throwing up. I hate having that feeling when I get a stomach bug. I'm afraid with SN it would be that times a factor of ten.

 

[Higurashi415]

You seem extremely negative about it.

I'm not particularly fond of this method, but I tried to be as objective as possible in the previous post. We're talking about CTB after all, it's usually unpleasant, every method has its drawbacks

 

[tooafraidtodiez]

In the video from around the net it doesn't seem too painful, 6/10 is probably accurate. Just expect some throat pain when you drink the SN and alongside that a lot of vomitting.