Method Guns/firearms megathread

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I have read the megathread and am more confused than ever.

I am a small woman. Have never handled a gun. Original idea has been hanging, however I want something more "reliable".

Am I safe to assume a .45 or .357 with hollow point bullets? Would those be too large for someone small? In mouth, pointing up? Thanks in advance.

Imo Those with hollow points would work. Deep as u can in mouth pointed up. Hollow point the Best

 

[suffering_mo]

I'm told that the kick doesn't matter, cause it doesn't happen until after the gun gets shot. However, I am watching this EXPERIENCED shooter and his gun moves up several inches from his aim. GP100 .357. Anyone care to comment? Maybe this is flinching but if someone this experienced does it, how could an inexperienced not?

Hopefully, it's ok to post this here.

 

[Myrmecia]

Hi

Are there any handguns with little to no recoil? I have brittle bone disease.

 

[zengiraffe]

How do I act normal at the gun store, I don't know anything about guns and I feel like they'd definitely know. Need a good reason to be getting a shotgun too.

It's normal for newbies to go to gun store to gawk at the guns and ask questions. The staff at gun stores are use to this. It's not weird. Nobody cares why you're getting the gun, but if you need to provide a reason the only reason you need to say is, "It looks fun to shoot." Anyone who likes gun will immediately understand. Most people who buy guns buy them because they are fun.

Am I safe to assume a .45 or .357 with hollow point bullets? Would those be too large for someone small? In mouth, pointing up?

Yes. No. Yes.

I'm told that the kick doesn't matter, cause it doesn't happen until after the gun gets shot. However, I am watching this EXPERIENCED shooter and his gun moves up several inches from his aim. GP100 .357. Anyone care to comment? Maybe this is flinching but if someone this experienced does it, how could an inexperienced not?

You were told correctly. Recoil doesn't matter for first shot accuracy, as it doesn't happen until after the bullet leaves the gun. Recoil only affects follow-up shot speed and accuracy. The shooter in that video is not flinching. His aim is moving up several inches after the bullet has already left the gun. It's recoil, not flinch. It's not affecting the accuracy of his slow methodical shots.

Here's a video of a guy shooting watermelons with a 500 magnum revolver, his aim goes up an entire foot after each shot, but he's still shooting right through the center of each watermelon. During the slowed down portion of the video you can see the watermelons explode and the recoil happens at the same time, which is after the bullet has left the gun.

 

[leloyon]

Hi

Are there any handguns with little to no recoil? I have brittle bone disease.

.22LR, .22 Magnum, .25 ACP and possibly .32 ACP. .32 ACP being the most powerful, appears to have some recoil though so you might want to watch some videos of people firing it and judge whether or not you'll be able to handle it.

 

[SeekingPeace164]

Ok… Thursday or Friday I will this time ACTUALLY go to a range and learn how to use a 12 gauge shotgun and some handgun (unsure to go with semi or revolver, they told me semis are best for beginners but I want to eventually use a revolver if I do CBT with it). Feeling oddly excited? Get to finally feel the power of a gun

 

[tpboy]

I know of the guy shooting the 500mag. One of the best shots on the internet. Hickock 45 out of Nashville TN.

 

[nohopeforrope]

Hi, I saw a photo of the right point to shot to get a instant death. Considering a shotgun right, what would be the exact right angle to not miss the shot. That would be like at the aiming a little bit curved in ear's direction? I assume that the nearer, the best for a fatal shot. Putting the gun between the knees, curved head aiming to the ears that would be the ideal? I honestly think that a shotgun is the only way to get a real almost 100% death rate, but I'd consider a "b plan" like being inside the car hitting the gas while a hose or something adapted to the car exhaust fill the car's interior with smoke. In case of a "survival", I would be dead carbon monoxide, although it seems unreal surviving a shotgun shot in the right angle.

 

[SeekingPeace164]

Hi, I saw a photo of the right point to shot to get a instant death. Considering a shotgun right, what would be the exact right angle to not miss the shot. That would be like at the aiming a little bit curved in ear's direction? I assume that the nearer, the best for a fatal shot. Putting the gun between the knees, curved head aiming to the ears that would be the ideal? I honestly think that a shotgun is the only way to get a real almost 100% death rate, but I'd consider a "b plan" like being inside the car hitting the gas while a hose or something adapted to the car exhaust fill the car's interior with smoke. In case of a "survival", I would be dead carbon monoxide, although it seems unreal surviving a shotgun shot in the right angle.

what do you mean by curved head?

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

Yes

how bout 9mm Springfield Xdm?

 

[leloyon]

how bout 9mm Springfield Xdm?

Still yes.

 

[Temporal_Anchorite]

*sigh*
Alright. Let's take this particular gun mentioned in the OP.

Buy Traditions Kentucky Pistol Single Shot 50 Cal Percussion 10 Color Case Hardened Frame Blued Barrel Walnut Grip Online

A classic American pistol, the Kentucky was a must have for American Pioneers and early 19th Century Explorers. The Kentucky was made famous by the battle of New Orleans

www.budsgunshop.com

It is a percussion gun, also known as a caplock, due to the fact that it used percussion caps.
You measure the appropriate amount of black powder, you pour that into the barrel. You stick a wad into the barrel and stick a projectile in front of it. You shove this combination into the barrel and then use the ram rod (yellow rod that should be underneath the barrel) to shove it all the way to the end of the barrel. Then, you get a percussion cap and stick it onto the that part sticking out next to the hammer.
Guns really aren't that complicated.

Also, keep in mind that you can buy conversion cylinders for percussion revolvers, or old thirty-two S&W revolvers. Get yourself a Remington eighteen-fifty-eight New Model Army or the Colt eighteen-sixty Army, a fourty-five Colt conversion cylinder and a box of Remington Wheelgun fourty-five Colt two-hundred-and-twenty-five grain semi-wadcutter ammo. Or an old Iver Johnson thirty-two S&W revolver and a box of Magtech thirty-two S&W short lead round nose ammo.
A reminder to all about the video that I keep posting on how to legally get firearms as a "prohibited person" in America. If I could edit the OP I'd add this to it.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/cl4q0gmq.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/g6y39w.mp4
(both are the same video, just on different sites)
Skip to 5:19 and watch from there.
And for the glowies, I do not have any reason to believe anyone in this thread is a danger to any life, I am not giving advice for the purposes of harming any living person, I am merely providing legal instructions on firearms to those who live in jurisdictions where they are legally allowed to own said firearms with the intent that they use it for target shooting, etc. etc.

"Hear ye! Hear ye!" ahh weapon

 

[stateofgrace]

Hello, I'm planning to ctb in the next week or so with my revolver. honestly I am terrified. I know I have to do it though, i'm just so scared of somehow fucking up and living through it or something. I know where to aim (thanks to this thread) I just have insaneeeee anxiety which makes it really hard to kys, like even though I want death more than anything the PANIC having to commit suicide ensues is so irritating. I'm 22 years old, had an attempt when I was 18 that I should definitely not have survived but somehow did and so i'm terrified of that happening again. I got my revolver last year, nobody knows that I own it. I got it for the purpose of killing myself and that only. Anyway, I'm a long time lurker and I'm high so I just felt like posting on here :)

 

[Edpal247]

Has anyone consider the powder actuated nail gun?

 

[leloyon]

Has anyone consider the powder actuated nail gun?

(all my posts are in regards to hypothetical scenarios and do not serve to suggest that anyone do or not do anything in the real world)
...maybe? There have been a handful of cases of captive bolt guns being used for suicide, which is largely the same deal if one doesn't have a nail loaded in and just has a powder charge. If one did have a nail loaded I would be worried about the nail staying inside rather than exiting, which is the big problem with crossbows. There have also been cases in China of people converting these nail guns into rifles used for illegal poaching.

 

[banger12]

Say we're talking about a .357 magnum revolver, would barrel length matter? What else would matter in terms of picking the right handgun other than caliber or such factors?

 

[Anonperson1]

If CTB with a black powder .50 is there going to be a difference between holding against my head, or leaving a 1 inch gap. I'm scared that I won't get penetration (I had a dream about this), and just end up with injuries.
Thinking of through the base of the skull from the rear, up towards the brain stem. There's a nice crevace to rest the gun and stablisise for aim, and it seems like a straight line will do the most damage.

 

[2manyissues2love]

Bought a Taurus .38 special. Picked it up from the store 2 days ago. I've done dry runs with it unloaded trigger pulls in mouth and behind the ear. Hoping that I can find the courage and strength to do it for real

 

[Anonperson1]

Well in reply to my own post, I found a paper that details three shots...two being headshots

Black Powder Handgun Deaths Remain an Uncommon Event : The American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology

hooting deaths in Berlin, Germany, review of the files of the Institute of Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences, Charité–Universitätsmedizin Berlin was conducted over a 10-year period from 1997 to 2006. Out of total 85 gunshot deaths, there were only 3 where black powder handguns were used...

journals.lww.com

In one it looks like the head totally ruptured, in the other just a small hole and death three hours later. The other was into the heart so not interested.

Of course, I'd be aiming (heh) for the first...any idea the difference between the two? Luck? Powder load?

 

[Anonperson1]

Found this which is interesting...Wish I had more data on the energy in my BP gun...

 

[justaperfectday]

I bought this shotgun
Weatherby Element Turkey Mossy Oak Bottomland 12 Gauge Shotgun

And these rounds
Winchester 12GA 3 VARMINT X Round LOCK BB 10/10

I'm a 120Lb woman -will the kick be too strong?
My date March 25; extra ammo. On the fence about wanting a plus one but if anyone wants to come to San Francisco id be up for a conversation

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Found this which is interesting...Wish I had more data on the energy in my BP gun...

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On the side of the head Tbr 4 mm of skull . I wonder if 12 gauge 00 buckshot or slug will penetrate that bone to kill the brainstem? It Should right, anyone know?

 

[leloyon]

I bought this shotgun
Weatherby Element Turkey Mossy Oak Bottomland 12 Gauge Shotgun

And these rounds
Winchester 12GA 3 VARMINT X Round LOCK BB 10/10

I'm a 120Lb woman -will the kick be too strong?
My date March 25; extra ammo. On the fence about wanting a plus one but if anyone wants to come to San Francisco id be up for a conversation

You have birdshot ammo there, which is generally not recommended.

On the side of the head Tbr 4 mm of skull . I wonder if 12 gauge 00 buckshot or slug will penetrate that bone to kill the brainstem? It Should right, anyone know?

00 Buckshot and slugs are both known for overpenetration and can potentially go through walls or can be used to shoot locks off doors.
Point being yes, it would.

 

[Danby]

My date March 25; extra ammo. On the fence about wanting a plus one but if anyone wants to come to San Francisco id be up for a conversation

I'm just across the Bay from you, in Richmond. Thinking about ctb with a shotgun myself.

On a related note, is a .410 shotgun sufficient, or should I go for the 12 gauge?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I'm just across the Bay from you, in Richmond. Thinking about ctb with a shotgun myself.

On a related note, is a .410 shotgun sufficient, or should I go for the 12 gauge?

12 gauge is much better. 00 buckshot

I bought this shotgun
Weatherby Element Turkey Mossy Oak Bottomland 12 Gauge Shotgun

And these rounds
Winchester 12GA 3 VARMINT X Round LOCK BB 10/10

I'm a 120Lb woman -will the kick be too strong?
My date March 25; extra ammo. On the fence about wanting a plus one but if anyone wants to come to San Francisco id be up for a conversation

00 buckshot ammo is much better for 12 gauge
and the best buckshot is 1600 fps critical defense

Hornady Critical Defense Ammo 12 Gauge 00 Buck Shot 2.75" shell 8 pellets 1600 FPS 10/box

Hornady Critical Defense Ammo 12 Gauge 00 Buck Shot 2.75" shell 8 pellets 1600 FPS 10/box

www.aeammo.com

You have birdshot ammo there, which is generally not recommended.

00 Buckshot and slugs are both known for overpenetration and can potentially go through walls or can be used to shoot locks off doors.
Point being yes, it would.

Thanks.

i want to be sure it penetrates my skull cause horrifically i read that human bone is many times stronger than concrete and as strong as steel . i know inside the mouth it would work but for some reason i'm more scared of putting it in my mouth than behind the ear on the side of the head to destroy the evil brain stem and brain seems easier to defeat si for me .

Human Bones, Joints and Muscles Facts: - Winston Medical Center

Human Bones, Joints and Muscles Facts: Your bones are composed of 31% water. Your bones, pound for pound, are 4 times stronger than concrete. A muscle called the diaphragm controls... Read more »

www.winstonmedical.org

what do you all think of this video. guy shoots himself with a shotgun seems inside mouth. to me it seems the brain or skull matter flies out at least 10 feet away from the head , proving no way it can fail if deep in mouth pointed at brainstem that head is exploded looks like what do you think guranteed ? i think so .

 

[Nefera]

I've been looking into 3D printed ghost guns, would it work for CTB?

 

[leloyon]

I've been looking into 3D printed ghost guns

3D printed guns, when built properly, work about as well as a factory made gun. Though a warning...

Reject Defcad, embrace the Gatalog (and Odysee).

 

[justaperfectday]

You have birdshot ammo there, which is generally not recommended.

00 Buckshot and slugs are both known for overpenetration and can potentially go through walls or can be used to shoot locks off doors.
Point being yes, it would.

appreciate advice-I have zero experience w firearms so running blind here. I've never attempted to ctb and want to get it right the first time, hence shotgun.

Would you recommend this:

Federal Premium Vital-Shok 12 Gauge 2-3/4in 00 Buck Buckshot Shotshells - 5 Rounds

I know where to aim, but welcome any other pointers.

I'm just across the Bay from you, in Richmond. Thinking about ctb with a shotgun myself.

On a related note, is a .410 shotgun sufficient, or should I go for the 12 gauge?

I'm just across the Bay from you, in Richmond. Thinking about ctb with a shotgun myself.

On a related note, is a .410 shotgun sufficient, or should I go for the 12 gauge?

I'm just across the Bay from you, in Richmond. Thinking about ctb with a shotgun myself.

On a related note, is a .410 shotgun sufficient, or should I go for the 12 gauge?

I'm waiting until spring. Have a few things to settle up. If youre still around we can talk

 

[endofline2010]

Hi

Are there any handguns with little to no recoil? I have brittle bone disease.

Two things contribute to recoil - the weight of the gun, and the "power" of the bullet (basically how much powder the cartridge holds). The minimum cartridge that would give good odds are probably a 38 special for revolvers or a 9mm for pistols. So you would pretty much want the heaviest gun you can find with these cartridges. I don't have one handy, but I'm sure there is some database out there with gun weights.

.22LR, .22 Magnum, .25 ACP and possibly .32 ACP. .32 ACP being the most powerful, appears to have some recoil though so you might want to watch some videos of people firing it and judge whether or not you'll be able to handle it.

Personally, I think all these rounds aren't sufficient. They are small and weak. You would be relying on a perfectly placed shot because of the minimal cavitation.

Say we're talking about a .357 magnum revolver, would barrel length matter? What else would matter in terms of picking the right handgun other than caliber or such factors?

For handguns, it's caliber and overall barrel/slide size. Ask me how I know a full size glock is really hard to give a blowjob to :) Additionally, the size and type of front sight could potentially be an issue too. Suppressor-compatible sights are very tall.

 

[banger12]

Two things contribute to recoil - the weight of the gun, and the "power" of the bullet (basically how much powder the cartridge holds). The minimum cartridge that would give good odds are probably a 38 special for revolvers or a 9mm for pistols. So you would pretty much want the heaviest gun you can find with these cartridges. I don't have one handy, but I'm sure there is some database out there with gun weights.

Personally, I think all these rounds aren't sufficient. They are small and weak. You would be relying on a perfectly placed shot because of the minimal cavitation.

For handguns, it's caliber and overall barrel/slide size. Ask me how I know a full size glock is really hard to give a blowjob to :) Additionally, the size and type of front sight could potentially be an issue too. Suppressor-compatible sights are very tall.

I see. Yeah unfortunately idk shit about guns lol. What I had in mind was a .357 magnum revolver. So in terms of barrel size would it be better to go longer or shorter? Or is it more important that I can fit it in my mouth? E.g. 2-3 inch barrel vs 5 inch barrel length. I have a lot more questions but idk if it's appropriate to be asking them all here and I'm sure you have other stuff to do. But I hope you could help. Idk if this crosses any lines on SaSu (I've seen threads doing this before so maybe it's ok) but is it possible to send links to firearms I'm considering to get an opinion. Also, what's tge margin of error on a revolver vs shotgun?

Edit: ok so, about the difficulty of giving the glock a BJ?