Method Guns/firearms megathread

[leloyon]

what would you classify as a short barrel? 18 inches?

I would say eighteen to maybe twenty-four inches would be short for a shotgun.

Also, if you I had the choice between the TAC-14 and an 18 inch, what would you recommend?

The eighteen-inch. It's cheaper, break-action shotguns are more reliable and if the cops find your shotgun they might think it's an illegal sawed-off shotgun and give you shit over it.

And about fitting in my car, It doesn't need to be glove compartment, but I also don't want something long and huge. Storage in the back would be good as well, just somewhere that it can fit that is not out in the open like between my seats

I took that into consideration, I still think the magnum is the better choice. Taurus and Rossi make some three-fifty-seven magnum revolvers I've found for less than five hundred dollars.

 

[SeekingPeace164]

so I've decided to go to a shotgun shooting range where they will allow me to rent a gun for $10. I might also go to a handgun range to get a feel of a magnum if they happen to have them. I really cannot afford to fuck up this method, which is why I'm still leaning against a handgun. I won't be able to shoot with the gun I'd eventually like to buy (TAC-14) but I think I'll still get good knowledge on what to expect when shooting it. Part of me thinks it may be best to not go so that I don't know what to expect, but the other part of me thinks it might give me comfort to see just how powerful they are in person.

 

[leloyon]

so I've decided to go to a shotgun shooting range where they will allow me to rent a gun for $10. I might also go to a handgun range to get a feel of a magnum if they happen to have them. I really cannot afford to fuck up this method, which is why I'm still leaning against a handgun. I won't be able to shoot with the gun I'd eventually like to buy (TAC-14) but I think I'll still get good knowledge on what to expect when shooting it. Part of me thinks it may be best to not go so that I don't know what to expect, but the other part of me thinks it might give me comfort to see just how powerful they are in person.

See if the range allows you to rent a revolver. I imagine they'd have some sort of revolver to shoot.
Keep in mind that the TAC-fourteen is a pistol grip only shotgun, I imagine they won't let you rent such a shotgun there, but rather a shotgun with a stock. The stock effects your aiming and recoil.

 

[bte]

So- is it "normal" to be getting hollow point bullets? I obviously don't want to get any sort of questions or problems.... so is it weird if I just come into a gun store buy a gun and some hollow points and just head on out? Sorry probably a stupid question but that's basically what I would be doing.

I just did so this weekend. I know i'm not planning on carrying my gun, so I just said I wanted whatever was the best hollow-point ammo for self defense. It didn't raise any flags with anyone.

 

[leloyon]

I just did so this weekend. I know i'm not planning on carrying my gun, so I just said I wanted whatever was the best hollow-point ammo for self defense. It didn't raise any flags with anyone.

A bit weird to be replying to a comment from six years ago, but to any lurkers who might be worried about this kinda thing, pretty much this.
Hollow point ammunition is commonly used for self-defense.
Also to everyone who's too worried here, as long as you don't come across as dangerous or "crazy", they don't care. They're salespeople. They see guns as tools. Unless you, once again, come across as someone who's going to use a gun to hurt other people, they aren't actively looking for a reason not to sell to you or help you out.

 

[CosmicStrawberry]

I'm thinking of buying a black powder pistol, is loading it as hard as it looks? The wiki how on how to load a black powder mentions disassembly to clean it, do I have to? I don't know anything about guns I'm just using it for CTB

 

[leloyon]

I'm thinking of buying a black powder pistol, is loading it as hard as it looks? The wiki how on how to load a black powder mentions disassembly to clean it, do I have to? I don't know anything about guns I'm just using it for CTB

You only need to clean it if you're planning on shooting it beforehand. You don't have to clean a black powder weapon after every shot, but gunpowder leaves foul residue all over the gun so if you're gonna take it out for some test shots you're going to want to clean it when you get back home.
Also it depends on what type of black powder gun you're using. Is it a muzzleloader or a revolver? Is it a flintlock or a caplock?
I'd recommend finding out the specific type of black powder gun you're using and looking up a youtube tutorial on loading that type of gun instead of wikihow.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Idk if this is the right place to post this but where would be the best place to store a shotgun? Do gun stores commonly offer storage?
What excuse can I give for buying a safe to store it in at home? That will look suspicious, no?
I don't have one yet, but I will eventually.

 

[leloyon]

Idk if this is the right place to post this but where would be the best place to store a shotgun? Do gun stores commonly offer storage?
What excuse can I give for buying a safe to store it in at home? That will look suspicious, no?
I don't have one yet, but I will eventually.

Anywhere that it fits. Shove it in your closet or under the bed.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Anywhere that it fits. Shove it in your closet or under the bed.

I don't live alone and I don't have that many secure places to hide it. I think I will need to buy a safe, but I'm worried that doing so will arouse the suspicion of those I live with.

 

[leloyon]

I don't live alone and I don't have that many secure places to hide it. I think I will need to buy a safe, but I'm worried that doing so will arouse the suspicion of those I live with.

If you're old enough to buy a shotgun, you must be a grown adult. Tell the people you live with that you're an adult and to respect your privacy.
Also, if they end up taking it from you, that is your property and they have committed theft.
That being said, just stick a lock on your closet if you can, or get some sort of container with a lock on it. You can take the stock off the shotgun to make it easier to store.

 

[CosmicStrawberry]

You only need to clean it if you're planning on shooting it beforehand. You don't have to clean a black powder weapon after every shot, but gunpowder leaves foul residue all over the gun so if you're gonna take it out for some test shots you're going to want to clean it when you get back home.
Also it depends on what type of black powder gun you're using. Is it a muzzleloader or a revolver? Is it a flintlock or a caplock?
I'd recommend finding out the specific type of black powder gun you're using and looking up a youtube tutorial on loading that type of gun instead of wikihow.

the black powder seems too complicated for me, I just gotta make sure all my psych ward vacations were voluntary, if so I'll CTB the easy way

 

[leloyon]

the black powder seems too complicated for me, I just gotta make sure all my psych ward vacations were voluntary

*sigh*
Alright. Let's take this particular gun mentioned in the OP.

Buy Traditions Kentucky Pistol Single Shot 50 Cal Percussion 10 Color Case Hardened Frame Blued Barrel Walnut Grip Online

A classic American pistol, the Kentucky was a must have for American Pioneers and early 19th Century Explorers. The Kentucky was made famous by the battle of New Orleans

www.budsgunshop.com

It is a percussion gun, also known as a caplock, due to the fact that it used percussion caps.
You measure the appropriate amount of black powder, you pour that into the barrel. You stick a wad into the barrel and stick a projectile in front of it. You shove this combination into the barrel and then use the ram rod (yellow rod that should be underneath the barrel) to shove it all the way to the end of the barrel. Then, you get a percussion cap and stick it onto the that part sticking out next to the hammer.
Guns really aren't that complicated.

Also, keep in mind that you can buy conversion cylinders for percussion revolvers, or old thirty-two S&W revolvers. Get yourself a Remington eighteen-fifty-eight New Model Army or the Colt eighteen-sixty Army, a fourty-five Colt conversion cylinder and a box of Remington Wheelgun fourty-five Colt two-hundred-and-twenty-five grain semi-wadcutter ammo. Or an old Iver Johnson thirty-two S&W revolver and a box of Magtech thirty-two S&W short lead round nose ammo.
A reminder to all about the video that I keep posting on how to legally get firearms as a "prohibited person" in America. If I could edit the OP I'd add this to it.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/cl4q0gmq.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/g6y39w.mp4
(both are the same video, just on different sites)
Skip to 5:19 and watch from there.
And for the glowies, I do not have any reason to believe anyone in this thread is a danger to any life, I am not giving advice for the purposes of harming any living person, I am merely providing legal instructions on firearms to those who live in jurisdictions where they are legally allowed to own said firearms with the intent that they use it for target shooting, etc. etc.

 

[CosmicStrawberry]

*sigh*
Alright. Let's take this particular gun mentioned in the OP.

Buy Traditions Kentucky Pistol Single Shot 50 Cal Percussion 10 Color Case Hardened Frame Blued Barrel Walnut Grip Online

A classic American pistol, the Kentucky was a must have for American Pioneers and early 19th Century Explorers. The Kentucky was made famous by the battle of New Orleans

www.budsgunshop.com

It is a percussion gun, also known as a caplock, due to the fact that it used percussion caps.
You measure the appropriate amount of black powder, you pour that into the barrel. You stick a wad into the barrel and stick a projectile in front of it. You shove this combination into the barrel and then use the ram rod (yellow rod that should be underneath the barrel) to shove it all the way to the end of the barrel. Then, you get a percussion cap and stick it onto the that part sticking out next to the hammer.
Guns really aren't that complicated.

Also, keep in mind that you can buy conversion cylinders for percussion revolvers, or old thirty-two S&W revolvers. Get yourself a Remington eighteen-fifty-eight New Model Army or the Colt eighteen-sixty Army, a fourty-five Colt conversion cylinder and a box of Remington Wheelgun fourty-five Colt two-hundred-and-twenty-five grain semi-wadcutter ammo. Or an old Iver Johnson thirty-two S&W revolver and a box of Magtech thirty-two S&W short lead round nose ammo.
A reminder to all about the video that I keep posting on how to legally get firearms as a "prohibited person" in America. If I could edit the OP I'd add this to it.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/cl4q0gmq.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/g6y39w.mp4
(both are the same video, just on different sites)
Skip to 5:19 and watch from there.
And for the glowies, I do not have any reason to believe anyone in this thread is a danger to any life, I am not giving advice for the purposes of harming any living person, I am merely providing legal instructions on firearms to those who live in jurisdictions where they are legally allowed to own said firearms with the intent that they use it for target shooting, etc. etc.

Thank you for telling me about the converter cylinder. If the night night method doesn't work for me I'll be doing this in August

 

[suffering_mo]

Need help!! I need a surefire way to end my physical torment. If I am able to get to the big box store to get a shotgun, do I need to clean it and "break it in" before I use it to end things? I know buying it new, it will be in a box that I will have to put together. I can NOT fail with any method and that's why I am leaning towards this one. However, I am not familiar with guns and because of my noise sensitivity issues, going to any sort of range would be out of the question.

Also, if I have to get to the store via Uber, do you think if I put the box in something (I have a big chair bag), I will be able to get back home via Uber or would it be too suspicious?

 

[leloyon]

Need help!! I need a surefire way to end my physical torment. If I am able to get to the big box store to get a shotgun, do I need to clean it and "break it in" before I use it to end things? I know buying it new, it will be in a box that I will have to put together. I can NOT fail with any method and that's why I am leaning towards this one. However, I am not familiar with guns and because of my noise sensitivity issues, going to any sort of range would be out of the question.

No, you don't.

Also, if I have to get to the store via Uber, do you think if I put the box in something (I have a big chair bag), I will be able to get back home via Uber or would it be too suspicious?

You should probably walk a bit away from the gun shop if you do that.

 

[suffering_mo]

so I've decided to go to a shotgun shooting range where they will allow me to rent a gun for $10. I might also go to a handgun range to get a feel of a magnum if they happen to have them. I really cannot afford to fuck up this method, which is why I'm still leaning against a handgun. I won't be able to shoot with the gun I'd eventually like to buy (TAC-14) but I think I'll still get good knowledge on what to expect when shooting it. Part of me thinks it may be best to not go so that I don't know what to expect, but the other part of me thinks it might give me comfort to see just how powerful they are in person.

Did you go? If so, what did you determine as a newbie to guns?

 

[Vicolo cieco]

Is a 9mm FMJ bullet to the head lethal enough? Is it essential to use a hollow-point bullet?

 

[leloyon]

Is a 9mm FMJ bullet to the head lethal enough? Is it essential to use a hollow-point bullet?

It'll be enough, but it's still always recommended to use hollow points if you can. FMJ basically passes straight through, while hollow points expand and can even break up inside, doing more damage. People have survived 9mm FMJ to the head, Gabrielle Giffords being a famous example.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Hello,

In my country its hard to get firearm if its not for hunting ,according to different category. I know about people in my family having riffle(tikka or something like that i dont really know about riffle) in 300 winchester magnum caliber , is it a reliable caliber and riffle to use ?
About the aiming spot, is between the two eyes a good spot ? I've heard it was a method for execution, or maybe is it only in movie ?

Thanks!

Below i copied pasted some text from a hunting forum. It proves my theory that velocity kills. He is talking about 125 grn bullet out of a 300 Win Magnum . 3650 fps. is 3650 feet per second. says it will evaporate a ground hog which means my head will too. but that's at a distance . if you do a contact shot or in the mouth it's much worse. They don't make these rifles and bullet go that fast for fun is to kill. by comparison my 9mm hand gun fires a simlarly large bullet at 1300 feet per second. some shotguns are this speed 1300 feet per second but a much larger slug or buckshot which is about 9 shots 9 bullets in 00 buckshot.

300 win with 125 gr. Ball. Tip

I am new to the forum but already I like it. I am proposing and an interesting thought. I have a 300 Win that I am trying to set up for coyote hunting. Now I know that this is not the taditional coyote set up but I don't get the traditional shots. I am looking to do some long range shooting...

www.longrangehunting.com

"I will be getting some awesome velocity and accuracy with this set up. I will be pushing the 125grn ballistic tip at 4000+fps. I am betting your barrel is about 26", so you should be pushing the 125grn BT with the 1&10 twist barrel at around 3650fps, that will blow a coyote in half. I know the VLD bullets are best for long range shooting, however, the 125grn BT has a BC of .366 and traveling at those above mentioned velocites makes it a very flat shooting rig out to 1000 yards. It will send ground hogs five feet into the air and evaporate them too. I will be shooting this rig at the smaller California ground squirrel. I can't wait to see how far it sends them flying. This is, with out a doubt, a Red Mist set up.

 

[suffering_mo]

I've read on another site that the jump of a revolver can be up to 6 inches if you are only using one hand. That it's imperative to use 2 hands, one straight to avoid the jump. Therefore, with suicide, how can one "aim" correctly and hit the target of the brain stem with a revolver like a .357 since the jump could be 6 inches?

I was thinking it would be more stable behind the ear because you could "press in"...for some reason, the idea going in the mouth with one of these is making me more adverse.

The more I dig into all this, the more SI it creates for this method.

 

[leloyon]

I've read on another site that the jump of a revolver can be up to 6 inches if you are only using one hand. That it's imperative to use 2 hands, one straight to avoid the jump. Therefore, with suicide, how can one "aim" correctly and hit the target of the brain stem with a revolver like a .357 since the jump could be 6 inches?

I was thinking it would be more stable behind the ear because you could "press in"...for some reason, the idea going in the mouth with one of these is making me more adverse.

The more I dig into all this, the more SI it creates for this method.

Are you referring to recoil? Because recoil only effects you after the gun has been shot, by the time it kicks back the bullet will have already hit you.

 

[SeekingPeace164]

I've read on another site that the jump of a revolver can be up to 6 inches if you are only using one hand. That it's imperative to use 2 hands, one straight to avoid the jump. Therefore, with suicide, how can one "aim" correctly and hit the target of the brain stem with a revolver like a .357 since the jump could be 6 inches?

I was thinking it would be more stable behind the ear because you could "press in"...for some reason, the idea going in the mouth with one of these is making me more adverse.

The more I dig into all this, the more SI it creates for this method.

I understand the discomfort of doing it through the mouth, although I do believe through the mouth makes it less likely to flinch. Perhaps you can try dry firing it to get a feel of the trigger? The gun won't make a loud noise without a bullet, it'll just be a click

 

[moviestarraccoon]

why can't you use a handgun at the base of your skull ? does that have a low success rate as well ?

 

[AJC]

Anyone know a good way of making sure no one has to clean up my body? I decided I'm going to quit my job, sell all my stuff. Get every penny that I can and have one last hurrah before shooting myself. Shotguns are pretty cheap here in SC (can get a 12 gauge for less than $150) so I'm gonna go with that to guarantee that I CTB. My only thing is, that's gonna be one nasty sight to see. I don't want to traumatize some unfortunate soul who stumbles across my headless corpse. My current plan is, since I live near the beach, I might just shoot myself in the water. I'm not sure how far out into the ocean I have to go so that my body doesn't just wash back up on the shore though

 

[leloyon]

Anyone know a good way of making sure no one has to clean up my body? I decided I'm going to quit my job, sell all my stuff. Get every penny that I can and have one last hurrah before shooting myself. Shotguns are pretty cheap here in SC (can get a 12 gauge for less than $150) so I'm gonna go with that to guarantee that I CTB. My only thing is, that's gonna be one nasty sight to see. I don't want to traumatize some unfortunate soul who stumbles across my headless corpse. My current plan is, since I live near the beach, I might just shoot myself in the water. I'm not sure how far out into the ocean I have to go so that my body doesn't just wash back up on the shore though

I mean, if you're just worried about some unsuspecting person coming across you, you could just lock the door and leave a note outside. At the very least, the only ones coming in at that point will be police who have braced themselves for it.

 

[Don’tDoxMe]

I'm thinking that I want to have a black garbage bag tied over my head to contain the gore from shooting myself, and possibly even another one over that (which I would put my hand and the gun under and into my mouth) to hide most of the blood that'd probably come out from the first bag's gunshot hole. I see no reason why this wouldn't protect my father from seeing my head blown open when he finds me, but one thing I've learned from my previous attempts with other methods is that something you never would've thought've can come up, so is there any reason y'all can think of as to to why this might not work?

 

[totheendofinfinity]

How do I act normal at the gun store, I don't know anything about guns and I feel like they'd definitely know. Need a good reason to be getting a shotgun too.

 

[leloyon]

How do I act normal at the gun store, I don't know anything about guns and I feel like they'd definitely know. Need a good reason to be getting a shotgun too.

Shotguns are common home defense weapons. Not knowing much about guns is fine.

 

[iusedtobehappy]

I have read the megathread and am more confused than ever.

I am a small woman. Have never handled a gun. Original idea has been hanging, however I want something more "reliable".

Am I safe to assume a .45 or .357 with hollow point bullets? Would those be too large for someone small? In mouth, pointing up? Thanks in advance.