Getting N from A. Things everyone should know.

[realjunes]

Although I haven't read your points in detail yet, that is a bit derailing of this thread, which is already under accusation of becoming derailed. Hope you don't take offence to that since that's not intended.
Personally I think @Ark is making progress with bringing forward a logical discussion, and think we may be able to get somewhere regarding the 1 vs 2 bottle debate. Guess we'll find out over the new few days....

No offense at all..if we need to delete it, I got more later. LOL. I dont want to derail this very important thread. I was not thinking.

 

[jgm63]

No offense at all..if we need to delete it, I got more later. LOL. I dont want to derail this very important thread. I was not thinking.

No it's fine, we are all guilty of doing it at various times
Your points are probably excellent, but they might cause this thread to become a bit too "mega"

 

[ViroMajor]

PPH states that when the purity is a concern (can it be understood alternatively regarding longevity/deterioration and low quantity to the same extent ?), associating it to Dilantin can be a potentiator. If stuck with approx 6gm, are you considering this option ?
I thought I remember a medical report stating the Dilantin toxicity could resolve around cardiac arrest, which may or may not defeat the peacefulness factor depending when it triggers. Don't take this memory for granted though, more research/confirmation welcomed...

 

[Ark]

@SinisterKid is correct on several points. Actually managing to get N anymore is becoming ridiculously difficult. For the last month I have been talking to many people I never thought I would talk to trying to find a way to find a better way to get N. And it breaks my heart but so far I have not found it.

I ( thanks to the help of another member here ) have just learned of more crap A is pulling with lots of people from EI also. Not hearsay either, I am reading the posts. So I am even more afraid of supporting buying from him. But! What I have IS N. So even with all the crap at least I have what I am supposed to. But that is the only good I can say about my dealing with A.

This is a very tough situation honestly.

As for the one versus two bottles thing. Maybe we will be able to reach a conclusion, who knows. I do not mind a debate, but when people want facts, and the fact is that no facts exist because the scenario hasn't happened, or at least been documented to happen, then I get a little annoyed lol.

What we have to remember is that all of this is to HELP people. That is the most important aspect of all of this. And that is where my passion comes from.

 

[NextBusLeaving]

@SinisterKid is correct on several points. Actually managing to get N anymore is becoming ridiculously difficult. For the last month I have been talking to many people I never thought I would talk to trying to find a way to find a better way to get N. And it breaks my heart but so far I have not found it.

I ( thanks to the help of another member here ) have just learned of more crap A is pulling with lots of people from EI also. Not hearsay either, I am reading the posts. So I am even more afraid of supporting buying from him. But! What I have IS N. So even with all the crap at least I have what I am supposed to. But that is the only good I can say about my dealing with A.

This is a very tough situation honestly.

As for the one versus two bottles thing. Maybe we will be able to reach a conclusion, who knows. I do not mind a debate, but when people want facts, and the fact is that no facts exist because the scenario hasn't happened, or at least been documented to happen, then I get a little annoyed lol.

What we have to remember is that all of this is to HELP people. That is the most important aspect of all of this. And that is where my passion comes from.

Its starting to become so hypothetical esp with availability concerns that any discussion sounds like my kids going at it: "Well what if Bigfoot was real, and he played football for Manchester United? No way, if Bigfoot was real he'd totally be a rugger." Faaack lol

 

[chris8000]

Bigfoot is a potential new source, maybe we should have a megathread on that.

Diclaimer: This post is for educational purposes only.

 

[NextBusLeaving]

Bigfoot is a potential new source, maybe we should have a megathread on that.

Diclaimer: This post is for educational purposes only.

I didnt realize he was selling N. Its at least as reasonable as the rest of the discussion. Whats his email? Propose a megathread "N from Bf." How long before he turns rogue tho

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

Bigfoot is a potential new source, maybe we should have a megathread on that.

Diclaimer: This post is for educational purposes only.

I needed this today, thanks for the guffaw

 

[realjunes]

Good one @ shakespearsbrother's - Guffaw!

 

[james244]

I'm glad that A still sends real N, but it's unfortunate that he is sending 1 bottle's worth of N repackaged in 2 tinier bottles to double his profits.

This just looks really dishonest/suspect. He must know people coming to him expect two 100 ml sealed bottles containing 12 g N for $750-850, but instead he gives you 6 g whether you pay 4 or 8 hundred.

He never did anything like this before. It looks like he is still in the game, but not like before

@Ark

Thank you x a million for this thread and clarifying my question. I'm much more comfortable ordering from him now. I think it's worth the wait to go with N rather than SN

this is a big gamble!!

Thank you x a million for this thread and clarifying my question. I'm much more comfortable ordering from him now. I think it's worth the wait to go with N rather than SN

this is a big gamble!!

 

[Ark]

As I plan to CTB tonight I would like to say something in this thread.

Yes there are a lot of issues with ordering N from A right now. And hopefully more answers will come with time, and A will fox some of the things he has been doing wrong lately. I also hope others continue keeping an eye out for what he is doing and keeping others updated as well as possible. We all need to help one another.

At the end of it all what A sent me is N. Although not the amount I thought I was getting and some other issues, the bottom line is I have enough to do what I want to do.

 

[jgm63]

Where is Bigfoot mentioned?

From wikipedia :
In North American folklore, Bigfoot or Sasquatch are said to be hairy, upright-walking, ape-like creatures that dwell in the wilderness and leave footprints.

 

[Alessa]

As I plan to CTB tonight I would like to say something in this thread.

Yes there are a lot of issues with ordering N from A right now. And hopefully more answers will come with time, and A will fox some of the things he has been doing wrong lately. I also hope others continue keeping an eye out for what he is doing and keeping others updated as well as possible. We all need to help one another.

At the end of it all what A sent me is N. Although not the amount I thought I was getting and some other issues, the bottom line is I have enough to do what I want to do.

It's weird to say goodbye this way... You're going to do it, another friend on this platform will do it in the following month. I guess everybody knows how to say goodbye, but this time, it's a goodbye forever, kinda sad, but also happy for you out there, who finally find your freedom after all.

Thanks for the investigastions, Ark. Maybe you will be reborned as a bird. ;) Don't know if you get that reference.

 

[Berlin76]

As I plan to CTB tonight I would like to say something in this thread.

Yes there are a lot of issues with ordering N from A right now. And hopefully more answers will come with time, and A will fox some of the things he has been doing wrong lately. I also hope others continue keeping an eye out for what he is doing and keeping others updated as well as possible. We all need to help one another.

At the end of it all what A sent me is N. Although not the amount I thought I was getting and some other issues, the bottom line is I have enough to do what I want to do.

. Have a safe passing and stay calm.
Wish you the best.

 

[GinaIsReady]

Thanks for everything, Ark. Much love to you. May your passing be peaceful and quick.

 

[Kruger]

I have been talking to several other members here and on another CTB forum about current experiences with A. This is a collection of everything that we have experienced dealing with A currently.

I have talked to 7 other people here who have ordered from A.

First, when ordering from A The expectation is to receive sealed 100ml glass bottles of N. A also gives a timeline of 20 to 25 days. A randomly asks some people for their phone numbers also. Can't seem to find a rhyme or reason as to who he requests it from.

My order was for two bottles. My order took 19 days. What was immediately odd though was A had told me my order was shipped 17 days before I received it. And when I got the package I realized it was sent 3 days ago. When I opened the package instead of the two sealed 100ml glass N bottles I was expecting, I had two 60ml unsealed plastic bottles. One of which I could immediately smell the chemical smell of the product. I contacted A with these concerns and A replied that the product was good and I had his word. He did not respond to the amount questions, the unsealed questions, or anything else. He has since stopped responding to any of my emails.

Member 2 also ordered two bottles, and received the same as I did. That member also reached out to A with questions and also is not being responded to. This member decided to have the product tested.

Member 3 ordered two bottles. Received one bottle but at least it is the proper 100ml glass bottle. A has promised to send this member another bottle. Will update if it is received.

Member 4 never received their order. A claims it was probably intercepted. There is no way to confirm or deny this of course.

Member 5 ordered one bottle, received one large ( larger than 100ml ) bottle that was partially used, and not properly sealed.

Member 6 is still waiting for delivery. They ordered two bottles and are now at 27 days.

Member 7 ordered two 100ml bottles and received the two 60ml unsealed bottles yet again. One bottle actually leaked in the package due to not being sealed, and was not clear, with particulates in it.

What I have learned that might be key here is that this is not how A operated before October. Since October however many people are very concerned with how A is operating. On the other forum the talks are similar. People getting the unsealed plastic bottles, getting the wrong orders and so forth.

As soon as the member here gets the test results they will be posted by me or them if they want to post it. Several members involved do not want their names used so please do not ask here or in PM as I will not give them out.

My personal advice right now would be to be very cautious, obviously something is very wrong right now. The product could still very well be N, one of the members actually tasted it and said it tasted similar to what would be expected. But, until the test results come back we do not know for sure. Also, be aware that there is no way of knowing what you might receive right now as in quantity, quality, anything. From people I have spoken to from here and the other forum no one has received 2 100ml sealed glass bottles since around the beginning of November.

I do have to say though that if the test comes back positive for N with at least 60mg/ml that would mean that all of us who got the two 60ml bottles would have about 8gm of N. Which is more than enough to peacefully CTB. So we are of course hoping that is the case.

Now, with all the transferred and unsealed product we also have to worry about shelf life. A few of us are researching that and I will update as we learn more.

Another concern is the product being tainted. One member had one bottle that was not clear and appeared to have particulates in it. This is extremely concerning for obvious reasons. I believe that member is having it tested also.

A also stops responding it seems once one gets the product and starts asking questions about their concerns. I have been told by several previous customers that A before November never acted that way. There is a ton of speculation as to why that is, but I will not speculate. I am trying to find the real answers. As I get answers I will update here.

This is all very concerning. This is incredibly serious. I spent every penny I had saved up to get this from A and expected 2 100 ml sealed bottles of N. And I am not alone. We are talking about people counting on A to deliver as promised for people that have gone to him as their means for their final act in life. To find our peace, the way we want to.

I am reporting my experience and findings to EI, as are others.

I promise to update all findings until I CTB myself. Please just use caution for now, I hate that A is the only source that is recommended to us and these things are happening. So I don't want to tell people not to order because our options are limited, and the product might still be N. We should know soon. But there is a lot wrong right now. So use your own discretion. I just want everyone to have all the information available.

Also, if anyone wants to talk to me about any of this, or their own experience, you can respond here of course or you can PM me if you want. As crazy as it may sound to some, all I want is to help others get to any conclusions we can for others while I am still here.

I am new here and can't figure out how to send a pm. I am so grateful to you for posting this. I have spent alot of time researching and it seems that this A person is the one who is touted by exit international. My understanding is that you pay for the ebook and if you are lucky, you get given his details. I find it highly unethical that people in our unfortunate situation should be exploited in this way by having to pay for the name of a supplier. There are LOADS of vendors on the dark web and I am contemplating making several orders and then getting the stuff testing by the lab in spain everyone is talking about. I would be outraged to receive an unsealed bottle of anything. Thanks to your info, I am going to stop trying to get A's details (my efforts have been fruitless so far anyway) and rather take a chance on the dark web.

WOW, your info is scary , particles in N ..leaking bottles WTF ! Considering how much he charges this is totally unacceptable .
Thanks for the info and for your time compiling the above , much appreciated .

Yeah, this helpful post means I need no longer waste valuable time trying to find A's details. I'm going to keep looking on the dark web.

 

[Soul]

I am new here and can't figure out how to send a pm. I am so grateful to you for posting this. I have spent alot of time researching and it seems that this A person is the one who is touted by exit international. My understanding is that you pay for the ebook and if you are lucky, you get given his details. I find it highly unethical that people in our unfortunate situation should be exploited in this way by having to pay for the name of a supplier. There are LOADS of vendors on the dark web and I am contemplating making several orders and then getting the stuff testing by the lab in spain everyone is talking about. I would be outraged to receive an unsealed bottle of anything. Thanks to your info, I am going to stop trying to get A's details (my efforts have been fruitless so far anyway) and rather take a chance on the dark web.

Yeah, this helpful post means I need no longer waste valuable time trying to find A's details. I'm going to keep looking on the dark web.

@Kruger, A's contact email is in the PPH - it's not a luck thing. There are PPH screenshots in the Compilation of Resources near the top of the forum, but doublecheck with one of the mods to make sure the address hasn't been tampered with.

It's still a risk, as the good Arc has demonstrated, but so far A is still the only "recommended" source.

Please don't get involved with anyone who sends you a pm offering you N, ok? Scammers like to do that. Be careful.

PS: Your pm privileges will be turned on after you've been here a few days and made a minimum number of posts (5 or so? I'm not sure).

 

[Ssrejisser]

There was a discussion recently about whether you can inject A's N.... Did anyone actually ask A himself?
I ordered from him (some time back) and don't remember if he said it in his first email... I deleted everything, and now he doesn't answer me.
Does anyone have any information on that? Or maybe someone can ask if they are already in contact with him?

 

[Exitforme]

There was a discussion recently about whether you can inject A's N.... Did anyone actually ask A himself?
I ordered from him (some time back) and don't remember if he said it in his first email... I deleted everything, and now he doesn't answer me.
Does anyone have any information on that? Or maybe someone can ask if they are already in contact with him?

A will laugh at you if you dare ask him about injecting his product. You will pass out long before a lethal dose is fully injected into your system. Perhaps if you had a relatively accurate and automated drip to insert the N into but the introduction of complexities in your plan WILL increase risk of failure. Just drink it like the rest of us man, death is simple. There is no reward in the afterlife for employing a highly sophisticated method of suicide to leave this planet.

 

[PeaceisallIwishfor]

Ordered two bottles, only received one 100 ML bottle with the surrounding label scratched off and seems some was missing, but the bottle is sealed, so maybe it just looks that way

 

[★†DaughterOfEve†★]

Ordered two bottles, only received one 100 ML bottle with the surrounding label scratched off and seems some was missing, but the bottle is sealed, so maybe it just looks that way

Ok, yes maybe it does look that way. What are you going to do about the other bottle? If you ordered two, you should have received two.

 

[nonamegirl]

If A goes out of business, can we expect a new one to take over business?

 

[nonamegirl]

Okay, update:

I'm referring to this post: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...everyone-should-know.28438/page-3#post-515934

The person I'm talking about received a letter from the police. So the product was seized and they will have to go to the police station for a talk. This is definitely the nail in the coffin for me. I wouldn't recommend ordering into Switzerland, considering this update. Goodbye A.

Why are you scared about this if I may ask? Worst case he/she probably just get a fine.

My worry with this is simply not getting the product. Yeah, it would suck to get caught, but if I reached that point where I'm willing to take Nembutal, then police, prison or the likes cant scare me.

 

[Kruger]

Just to add some side notes for people who may not be aware....
"bob" who is mentioned in the PPH apparently no longer sells (and is removed in more recent editions)
"domingo" also mentioned in the PPH does not appear to have a good reputation. If you do a search on this site, a number of people claim to have been scammed (although in situations like this you always have to judge who has posted those claims and whether they are trustworthy, so it can be a tricky).


Keep in mind that not all listings on marketplaces stay up all the time.
Suppliers often run out of things, take their listing offline for a week or two, then put the listing back when they have restocked....
So we should avoid jumping to premature conclusions.... (I don't know the specifics of this case and whether anyone has judged prematurely on this occasion).

If listings disappear for a month or longer, then that might be a different matter, but we should still try to assess things objectively.
Of course, it is always wise for people to "stock up" on supplies if possible/practical, just in case things become harder to obtain...

The dark web is full of vendors and there is no way of knowing whether you will actually get anything - It's making me despondent. I am running out of time.

Why are you scared about this if I may ask? Worst case he/she probably just get a fine.

My worry with this is simply not getting the product. Yeah, it would suck to get caught, but if I reached that point where I'm willing to take Nembutal, then police, prison or the likes cant scare me.

Same here. I have a large inoperable brain tumour. What are they going to do to me? But I cannot even find a reputable seller to order from. I don't have hours to trawl the dark web.

 

[Atticus]

Hey guys,

Herewith I want to share my experience with this forum and ordering from A. I came in contact with this forum back in summer 2018 and read as many sections as I could. After the whole hysteria with getting N from A, I was a little bit concerned with order. On more than one occasion, I thought. That specific individuals in this forum were just here to scam people. In December of. Last year I finally decided to order from A. I looked up the PPH and asked several others. If they can confirm the email address. I made a proton mail account, contacted A, and discussed the purchase. As a matter of fact, he asked me for my phone number. Of course, I didn't give my real name, as I still wasn't sure if it was a trap. In the. Following days I transferred the bitcoin to the required address. Then the bizarre thing happened. A insisted that he didn't receive the bitcoin on his wallet and wrongfully explained that it would be impossible to trace the bitcoins. However, I proved with a screenshot and the help of BLOCKCHAIN EXPLORER that indeed I send the bitcoin to the desired address. As a result, he agreed to send the package regardless of the payment. At first, I was skeptical and started to read in this thread that people were not getting the product with the quality they desired/wanted. 20 days past through, and indeed I received my package today. It was 2 bottles with a metal sealing. However, the labels were scratched off. Although there were some problems with ordering from A, he kept his promise and didn't try to scam out of further money.



Sincerely,
Atticus

 

[GinaIsReady]

You are lucky.

 

[heheb27595]

Sound sketchy, I wouldn't trust.

 

[Berlin76]

Hey guys,

Herewith I want to share my experience with this forum and ordering from A. I came in contact with this forum back in summer 2018 and read as many sections as I could. After the whole hysteria with getting N from A, I was a little bit concerned with order. On more than one occasion, I thought. That specific individuals in this forum were just here to scam people. In December of. Last year I finally decided to order from A. I looked up the PPH and asked several others. If they can confirm the email address. I made a proton mail account, contacted A, and discussed the purchase. As a matter of fact, he asked me for my phone number. Of course, I didn't give my real name, as I still wasn't sure if it was a trap. In the. Following days I transferred the bitcoin to the required address. Then the bizarre thing happened. A insisted that he didn't receive the bitcoin on his wallet and wrongfully explained that it would be impossible to trace the bitcoins. However, I proved with a screenshot and the help of BLOCKCHAIN EXPLORER that indeed I send the bitcoin to the desired address. As a result, he agreed to send the package regardless of the payment. At first, I was skeptical and started to read in this thread that people were not getting the product with the quality they desired/wanted. 20 days past through, and indeed I received my package today. It was 2 bottles with a metal sealing. However, the labels were scratched off. Although there were some problems with ordering from A, he kept his promise and didn't try to scam out of further money.



Sincerely,
Atticus

I am happy it worked out for you, I know how stressed you were when you they payment went wrong.
But you are luck to have it now, best of luck to you my friend

Sound sketchy, I wouldn't trust.

bullshit, i know how stressed he was , but by talking and some advice he got it now .

 

[Daffodil]

Does anyone know how long the current batch of N from A lasts until? Thanks in advance!

 

[Berlin76]

Does anyone know how long the current batch of N from A lasts until? Thanks in advance!

Its always a year more or less