Getting N from A. Things everyone should know.

[Eagle Elle]

Thanks for the updates

 

[Daffodil]

Its always a year more or less

Thanks so much!

 

[Jimbo]

From wikipedia :
In North American folklore, Bigfoot or Sasquatch are said to be hairy, upright-walking, ape-like creatures that dwell in the wilderness and leave footprints.

@jgm63 Exactly the kind of thing I was talking to you about

 

[Berlin76]

@jgm63 Exactly the kind of thing I was talking to you about

You dont get the joke here.
Just ignore that

 

[jgm63]

You dont get the joke here.
Just ignore that

@Jimbo Someone made a joke about bigfoot as a vendor, you can read this thread for more info...

 

[Jimbo]

@Berlin76
@jgm63
No I did not read back in the thread so it flew over my head .
I thought @chris8000 was really trying to start a new thread about a new supplier.

 

[Daffodil]

honestly jokes sometimes don't land so well here imo as people are scrolling quickly through dozens of threads trying to get information they need

 

[Karl30]

I've got one bottle of N I got from A back in April 2018.....

it's never been opened and kept in the dark.

since It's old what should I do with it ?

 

[Maus7]

I have been talking to several other members here and on another CTB forum about current experiences with A. This is a collection of everything that we have experienced dealing with A currently.

I emailed him 2 weeks ago with the address recommended from the PPH with no response so far

 

[Daffodil]

from A back in April 2018.....

it's never been opened and kept in the dark.

since It's old what should I do with it

i heard if it doesn't have particulates it might still be good. maybe you could taste a small amount and see if it has an effect?

 

[Berlin76]

I've got one bottle of N I got from A back in April 2018.....

it's never been opened and kept in the dark.

since It's old what should I do with it ?

. It's still ok
But when you see particles in it than its done and not ok anymore

 

[Kruger]

Hey guys,

Herewith I want to share my experience with this forum and ordering from A. I came in contact with this forum back in summer 2018 and read as many sections as I could. After the whole hysteria with getting N from A, I was a little bit concerned with order. On more than one occasion, I thought. That specific individuals in this forum were just here to scam people. In December of. Last year I finally decided to order from A. I looked up the PPH and asked several others. If they can confirm the email address. I made a proton mail account, contacted A, and discussed the purchase. As a matter of fact, he asked me for my phone number. Of course, I didn't give my real name, as I still wasn't sure if it was a trap. In the. Following days I transferred the bitcoin to the required address. Then the bizarre thing happened. A insisted that he didn't receive the bitcoin on his wallet and wrongfully explained that it would be impossible to trace the bitcoins. However, I proved with a screenshot and the help of BLOCKCHAIN EXPLORER that indeed I send the bitcoin to the desired address. As a result, he agreed to send the package regardless of the payment. At first, I was skeptical and started to read in this thread that people were not getting the product with the quality they desired/wanted. 20 days past through, and indeed I received my package today. It was 2 bottles with a metal sealing. However, the labels were scratched off. Although there were some problems with ordering from A, he kept his promise and didn't try to scam out of further money.



Sincerely,
Atticus

Good to know. Crypto is traceable to individuals. I don't know why people think it is not.

 

[Berlin76]

Good to know. Crypto is traceable to individuals. I don't know why people think it is not.

People follow each other blindly here.
They dont do their own research so they just believe it is private.

But you can see every transaction on the blockchain of every wallet these can be tracked back to id or bank accounts

But in his case jt help him to get his order.
By showing the payment

 

[LucyJordan]

The Exit International members that got raided.... is there a post on SS about it? What happened to them, legally speaking?

I got raided in october and I wasn't a EI-member at that time. Untill now I had no further legal actions. I'm now a member of the EI-forum, but nothing is really happening there. Big silence there, getting no answers to questions.

 

[Kruger]

I got raided in october and I wasn't a EI-member at that time. Untill now I had no further legal actions. I'm now a member of the EI-forum, but nothing is really happening there. Big silence there, getting no answers to questions.

I emailed Exit several times and got no reply. I also find it highly exploitative to charge people just to give them A's email address. I mean thats what it boils down to.

 

[Berlin76]

I got raided in october and I wasn't a EI-member at that time. Untill now I had no further legal actions. I'm now a member of the EI-forum, but nothing is really happening there. Big silence there, getting no answers to questions.

They are watching both site Ei and Ss.
Its doesn't take 100 officers only a couple that keep and eye out for info that can be connected with ip address to home adres and flag these addresses at customs. Easy done bit of IT

 

[LucyJordan]

They are watching both site Ei and Ss.
Its doesn't take 100 officers only a couple that keep and eye out for info that can be connected with ip address to home adres and flag these addresses at customs. Easy done bit of IT

They'd better try to find out how tons of cocaine enter the harbour of Antwerp daily, and try to stop that. But that fruit is hanging way higher than this! Aren't they aware that we just want to leave in peace, not traumatizing other people?
Or doesn't it matter to them if at last, we throw ourselves on the railway, or jump of a cliff? I hope they think about that whenever they are called to investigate such an exit.
I heard today from a friend who's neighbor (age 82) wants to leave this life. She is ill and weighs 28 (!) kg. Her husband suffers from Alzheimer. Their doctor visits them everyday (in his Tesla-car), but doesn't want to help her with the euthanasia she asks for. Dogs in that situation however, get easily a deadly injection. I disgust Trump, but when I hear stories like this, the word hell-hole even jumps to my mind.

 

[Berlin76]

They'd better try to find out how tons of cocaine enter the harbour of Antwerp daily, and try to stop that. But that fruit is hanging way higher than this! Aren't they aware that we just want to leave in peace, not traumatizing other people?
Or doesn't it matter to them if at last, we throw ourselves on the railway, or jump of a cliff? I hope they think about that whenever they are called to investigate such an exit.
I heard today from a friend who's neighbor (age 82) wants to leave this life. She is ill and weighs 28 (!) kg. Her husband suffers from Alzheimer. Their doctor visits them everyday (in his Tesla-car), but doesn't want to help her with the euthanasia she asks for. Dogs in that situation however, get easily a deadly injection. I disgust Trump, but when I hear stories like this, the word hell-hole even jumps to my mind.

My god 82 and not getting help for euthanasia. They can be so weird at times with the exams terrible.

And yes its the same department of LE who handles the N operation who do the drug operation. But that's a whole other story.

 

[jgm63]

Good to know. Crypto is traceable to individuals. I don't know why people think it is not.

Bitcoin can have varying degrees of anonymity depending on how it's used.
If you want to achieve better anonymity, you can buy monero (XMR), and then use that to make a bitcoin payment (or just pay with monero if the vendor accepts it). At some point I may write up some notes on that...

 

[Chronicillness]

I got raided in october and I wasn't a EI-member at that time. Untill now I had no further legal actions. I'm now a member of the EI-forum, but nothing is really happening there. Big silence there, getting no answers to questions.

Thanks for your reply. This is my fear, unfotunately. If I get "raided" and put away for even 24 hours, my condition will likely permanently worsen, making CTBing much more arduous and complicated. Are you able to say if this happened in the US or not? How did they know you were getting N?

 

[james244]

I have been talking to several other members here and on another CTB forum about current experiences with A. This is a collection of everything that we have experienced dealing with A currently.

I have talked to 7 other people here who have ordered from A.

First, when ordering from A The expectation is to receive sealed 100ml glass bottles of N. A also gives a timeline of 20 to 25 days. A randomly asks some people for their phone numbers also. Can't seem to find a rhyme or reason as to who he requests it from.

My order was for two bottles. My order took 19 days. What was immediately odd though was A had told me my order was shipped 17 days before I received it. And when I got the package I realized it was sent 3 days ago. When I opened the package instead of the two sealed 100ml glass N bottles I was expecting, I had two 60ml unsealed plastic bottles. One of which I could immediately smell the chemical smell of the product. I contacted A with these concerns and A replied that the product was good and I had his word. He did not respond to the amount questions, the unsealed questions, or anything else. He has since stopped responding to any of my emails.

Member 2 also ordered two bottles, and received the same as I did. That member also reached out to A with questions and also is not being responded to. This member decided to have the product tested.

Member 3 ordered two bottles. Received one bottle but at least it is the proper 100ml glass bottle. A has promised to send this member another bottle. Will update if it is received.

Member 4 never received their order. A claims it was probably intercepted. There is no way to confirm or deny this of course.

Member 5 ordered one bottle, received one large ( larger than 100ml ) bottle that was partially used, and not properly sealed.

Member 6 is still waiting for delivery. They ordered two bottles and are now at 27 days.

Member 7 ordered two 100ml bottles and received the two 60ml unsealed bottles yet again. One bottle actually leaked in the package due to not being sealed, and was not clear, with particulates in it.

What I have learned that might be key here is that this is not how A operated before October. Since October however many people are very concerned with how A is operating. On the other forum the talks are similar. People getting the unsealed plastic bottles, getting the wrong orders and so forth.

As soon as the member here gets the test results they will be posted by me or them if they want to post it. Several members involved do not want their names used so please do not ask here or in PM as I will not give them out.

My personal advice right now would be to be very cautious, obviously something is very wrong right now. The product could still very well be N, one of the members actually tasted it and said it tasted similar to what would be expected. But, until the test results come back we do not know for sure. Also, be aware that there is no way of knowing what you might receive right now as in quantity, quality, anything. From people I have spoken to from here and the other forum no one has received 2 100ml sealed glass bottles since around the beginning of November.

I do have to say though that if the test comes back positive for N with at least 60mg/ml that would mean that all of us who got the two 60ml bottles would have about 8gm of N. Which is more than enough to peacefully CTB. So we are of course hoping that is the case.

Now, with all the transferred and unsealed product we also have to worry about shelf life. A few of us are researching that and I will update as we learn more.

Another concern is the product being tainted. One member had one bottle that was not clear and appeared to have particulates in it. This is extremely concerning for obvious reasons. I believe that member is having it tested also.

A also stops responding it seems once one gets the product and starts asking questions about their concerns. I have been told by several previous customers that A before November never acted that way. There is a ton of speculation as to why that is, but I will not speculate. I am trying to find the real answers. As I get answers I will update here.

This is all very concerning. This is incredibly serious. I spent every penny I had saved up to get this from A and expected 2 100 ml sealed bottles of N. And I am not alone. We are talking about people counting on A to deliver as promised for people that have gone to him as their means for their final act in life. To find our peace, the way we want to.

I am reporting my experience and findings to EI, as are others.

I promise to update all findings until I CTB myself. Please just use caution for now, I hate that A is the only source that is recommended to us and these things are happening. So I don't want to tell people not to order because our options are limited, and the product might still be N. We should know soon. But there is a lot wrong right now. So use your own discretion. I just want everyone to have all the information available.

Also, if anyone wants to talk to me about any of this, or their own experience, you can respond here of course or you can PM me if you want. As crazy as it may sound to some, all I want is to help others get to any conclusions we can for others while I am still here.

ark, how do i pm you
your username is crossed out

I find this to be a sweeping statement and a bit simplistic, but everyone is entitled to their viewpoint of course...

ei are both decent and trustworthy. what you are saying is ridiculous. this group take the hard won sources 'free'

 

[LucyJordan]

Thanks for your reply. This is my fear, unfotunately. If I get "raided" and put away for even 24 hours, my condition will likely permanently worsen, making CTBing much more arduous and complicated. Are you able to say if this happened in the US or not? How did they know you were getting N?

Not US, but Europe. If you're able to get it, hide it very well. No-one knows exactly what happened. Probably LE got their hands on shipping lists.

 

[Berlin76]

ark, how do i pm you
your username is crossed out

ei are both decent and trustworthy. what you are saying is ridiculous. this group take the hard won sources 'free'

Ark is not here anymore he past away.

 

[jgm63]

ark, how do i pm you
your username is crossed out

ei are both decent and trustworthy. what you are saying is ridiculous. this group take the hard won sources 'free'

You can view @Ark 's goodbye thread here :

Spoiler: well-it-is-time-for-me-to-stop-hurting

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/well-it-is-time-for-me-to-stop-hurting.29039/

 

[Holacanthus]

Worth mentioning that the Jan PPH mentions all these experiences and says that Exit cannot vouch for this source.

 

[veren4h92l]

I got raided in october and I wasn't a EI-member at that time. Untill now I had no further legal actions...Big silence there, getting no answers to questions.

Hi what is Ei? I thought Ss was the one raids where linked to.

 

[jgm63]

Hi what is Ei? I thought Ss was the one raids where linked to.

Exit International. They publish the PPH and have a forum.

 

[jgm63]

is getting N from A out of the question now? I was thinking one of the Scandinavian countries. Might there be a chance? I haven´t ordered or even made contact with A, just asking.

Are you not able to make an assessment by reading over this thread, and weighing things up ?
There's many factors to consider.
You really need to invest a couple of hours to read this thread properly.....
It contains a lot of information.

 

[nonamegirl]

Anybody who ordered from A recently?

 

[Heady_Cerebrum]

I've got one bottle of N I got from A back in April 2018.....

it's never been opened and kept in the dark.

since It's old what should I do with it ?

Late reply, but seen that no one suggested that you test your nembutal. You can test it at home using a kit that you can get from EXIT, or you can source the supplies yourself. It isn't too difficult, just need to follow the directions. There are videos which also guide one through the testing process. I'm unsure if copies of the videos are on this message forum. You can also send a small sample to a lab for testing. I believe it is recommended to test when you receive the product, unless you know it's what it says it is at the right concentration, and to test before use to ensure its maintained enough potency to do the job.