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I can't remember if the last one was like this as well but anyone who has received from IC, was your package just sealed like this? Like nothing to tear off first?
I received 2 packages SN from IC last week and have to tear off a strip above the zip lock to open them. Odd that your one is different. I have my doubts about the professionalism of IC as a company but pretty sure what I've received from them is actual SN.
 
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I received 2 packages SN from IC last week and have to tear off a strip above the zip lock to open them. Odd that your one is different. I have my doubts about the professionalism of IC as a company but pretty sure what I've received from them is actual SN.
This users pack looks like the one they have also. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...itrite-detected-color-should-be-purple.93933/
@idkanymore21 I'm so sorry that you're receiving so much toxicity here (ironically). I mean, people calling you a liar and prolifer? The fuck? I thought this was a "safe space" for CTBers? What next, are we going to gang up on someone who failed hanging too ? (I'd be one of those "someone" fyi).

I understand people are anxious about their own purchases but please exercise some restraint and critical thought! Manufacturers fuck up all the time with bad batches, human bodies can be wildly different (some people can't even metabolize fat or lactose or nut proteins, why would it be shocking if someone can't metabolize SN?), food/drug interactions etc etc. There is just no reason to automatically assume bad faith on OP's part. A prolifer wanting to shut down this site or SN sources, will just try and do so -- they already got some billion $ retailers to remove both SA and SN, IC is a non-entity compared to those -- they don't need to go with CIA/GRU style subterfuge and disinfo tactics on a fucking suicide forum filled with depressed people. Jeez, y'all are watching too many Hollywood spy movies!

FWIW I've read all the posts in this thread and I'm pretty much convinced OP just got a bad batch.
I completely understand where you're coming from. May I ask how you think IC would make a mistake if the only other products they list is salt?
 
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@idkanymore21 I'm so sorry that you're receiving so much toxicity here (ironically). I mean, people calling you a liar and prolifer? The fuck? I thought this was a "safe space" for CTBers? What next, are we going to gang up on someone who failed hanging too ? (I'd be one of those "someone" fyi).

I understand people are anxious about their own purchases but please exercise some restraint and critical thought! Manufacturers fuck up all the time with bad batches, human bodies can be wildly different (some people can't even metabolize fat or lactose or nut proteins, why would it be shocking if someone can't metabolize SN?), food/drug interactions etc etc. There is just no reason to automatically assume bad faith on OP's part. A prolifer wanting to shut down this site or SN sources, will just try and do so -- they already got some billion $ retailers to remove both SA and SN, IC is a non-entity compared to those -- they don't need to go with CIA/GRU style subterfuge and disinfo tactics on a fucking suicide forum filled with depressed people. Jeez, y'all are watching too many Hollywood spy movies!

FWIW I've read all the posts in this thread and I'm pretty much convinced OP just got a bad batch.
thank you so much, i seriously appreciate kind people like you!!
I'm pretty sure also that it was just a bad batch, IC seems like a very small business run by this one guy so its not impossible that there was just a mess up
I received 2 packages SN from IC last week and have to tear off a strip above the zip lock to open them. Odd that your one is different. I have my doubts about the professionalism of IC as a company but pretty sure what I've received from them is actual SN.
this is whats concerning me a bit because i remember the first package i got (the faulty one) there was a tear off strip and then these ones there wasnt... but it still looks more SN like which is giving me hope.
agreed about the professionalism of IC, I think they are supplying the correct thing (usually) but it does just seem like this one guy running IC as well as another website supplying things to make exit bags.
 
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Ah fuck, that's the source I've gotten to too. Definitely weary about buying from there now. Anyone know if anyone else has had this problem? I know it's a popular source so surely someone else must've posted about it here?
 
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Ic is the only source I know of. Now very nervous to mess this up.
 
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Ah fuck, that's the source I've gotten to too. Definitely weary about buying from there now. Anyone know if anyone else has had this problem? I know it's a popular source so surely someone else must've posted about it here?
i've not seen any others have a similar issue, i think someone posted above another person who claimed to have done an aquarium test and it didn't show any sn on the test... but i'm not too sure other than that. i think generally a reliable source
i opened my bag of sn on monday just to check what it looked like considering last time. i sealed it fully back up but should that be ok to use between tomorrow-end of the week? would it go bad that quickly or will it be fine?
 
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i've not seen any others have a similar issue, i think someone posted above another person who claimed to have done an aquarium test and it didn't show any sn on the test... but i'm not too sure other than that. i think generally a reliable source
i opened my bag of sn on monday just to check what it looked like considering last time. i sealed it fully back up but should that be ok to use between tomorrow-end of the week? would it go bad that quickly or will it be fine?
Yes, your SN is fine. I saw that post about the aquarium test and it made me sorry for the IC customers. I hear it can be inaccurate though. Are you going to run any tests on yours?
 
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Yes, your SN is fine. I saw that post about the aquarium test and it made me sorry for the IC customers. I hear it can be inaccurate though. Are you going to run any tests on yours?
yeah it is the only one on here that i've seen so hopefully was just another dodgy batch. i have an aquarium test coming which should be with me by tomorrow so planning on doing that, hopefully can figure out the correct method. the consistency of this stuff is completely different from the last batch though which is promising
 
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i've not seen any others have a similar issue, i think someone posted above another person who claimed to have done an aquarium test and it didn't show any sn on the test... but i'm not too sure other than that. i think generally a reliable source
i opened my bag of sn on monday just to check what it looked like considering last time. i sealed it fully back up but should that be ok to use between tomorrow-end of the week? would it go bad that quickly or will it be fine?
Read the thread. Someone actually explained more in depth about that. The IC actually tested with high levels.
 
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I see lots posted about IC? Are there other North America sources at this point. I'm nervous now.
 
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yeah it is the only one on here that i've seen so hopefully was just another dodgy batch. i have an aquarium test coming which should be with me by tomorrow so planning on doing that, hopefully can figure out the correct method. the consistency of this stuff is completely different from the last batch though which is promising
So how'd the test go?
 
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yeah it is the only one on here that i've seen so hopefully was just another dodgy batch. i have an aquarium test coming which should be with me by tomorrow so planning on doing that, hopefully can figure out the correct method. the consistency of this stuff is completely different from the last batch though which is promising
r u still there
 
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I doubt it. It takes years to turn into Nitrate and it doesn't all turn into Nitrate at once.

You can open your package to check the contents. It won't hurt, you can seal it right back up. Honestly, if I were you, to ease my mind, I would open it and check it out.
I have SN from DD and plan to ctb in a couple of weeks. I'm concerned about opening to test due to oxidation. Sure, it would be quick scoop out, immediately close back up, but then it sits around for another couple of weeks while being sealed of course. Plus, DD's SN only has a cap on the bottle, no seal underneath. Just opened it now to see and immediately put cap back on. And it opened easily, didn't even have to push down on the cap as is typical. Could you let me know the source, how you know that it wouldn't hurt to open to test, seal it right back up? And since I just opened it, it would be opening it again. Not doubting just trying to get more information about this. I'm trying to understand the science and I may be overthinking.
 
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Any update?
 
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last night i attempted:
1 hour before - paracetamol
45 mins before - domperidone 3 x 10g and propranolol
30 min before - 3 valiums
took a couple mg melatonin and smoked some weed about 5/10 mins before
SN drink - 20gm in 50ml water

i'm so confused, i woke up this morning a bit drowsy but thats it.. didnt throw up, wasnt found or anything. the SN is 99.999% pure and its from a source that ive been told about on here. i had eaten a substantial meal about 7 hours before so im not sure if that was the problem? but i'll be trying again tonight and will fast for much longer
could anyone tell me where they think i might have messed up?
the only major side effect i have is i have pretty bad diarrhea now
It sounds like it wasn'y sn- sn tastes very salty, this is universally said. You can be confident this wasn't sodium nitrie. I would try testing it with some blood- sn should turn it brownish right away. Your protocol is solid but the sn you have most likely is not really sn.
 
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I doubt it. It takes years to turn into Nitrate and it doesn't all turn into Nitrate at once.

You can open your package to check the contents. It won't hurt, you can seal it right back up. Honestly, if I were you, to ease my mind, I would open it and check it out.
My SN turned into nitrate in a few days, not months. I had to remove all the clumps to reach the nitrite in the container, but it did not come from IC. I had great trouble finding a source and checked for alternate names for the chemical, and found it listed. I purchased another container and it will remain sealed until use.
 
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My SN turned into nitrate in a few days, not months. I had to remove all the clumps to reach the nitrite in the container, but it did not come from IC. I had great trouble finding a source and checked for alternate names for the chemical, and found it listed. I purchased another container and it will remain sealed until use.
Just because it clumped up doesn't mean that it's converted into nitrate.
 
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Stupid question. But did you accidentally order Nitrate isntead of Nitrite? It has happened I believe. I just had to ask.
I did that, was disappointing as hell!😣😥
 
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Took the photo on my phone and airdropped it to my laptop

Directly from the source

I weigh 54kg and yes used grams

I 100% drank the whole drink, I was tired but still very much with it. And I ordered directly from IC

I guarantee I'm not fibbing. I'm desperate to find a way out as much as the rest of us, so I turned to this forum hoping to find some understanding of what could've gone wrong :(

Thank you for understanding that being accused of lying about this is really not what I need :(

I'm not sure what to say to the accusations of lying. I'm so broken mentally after this failing twice I really hope people can be a bit more understanding and I have no clue why on earth id lie about this

From IC directly

No there were no serious side effects except for pretty bad diarrhoea

I just had to pull myself together after those two failures so was busy getting wasted out of my mind in order to distract myself. I don't know what to say anymore :( I wouldn't waste mine and everyone else's time making something up like this. Not sure what else to say to convince everyone

The item was fully sealed until my first attemptb

Wow reading all of these comments is hurting me, I'm so desperate to get out of this horrific life and I understand people are sceptical because it is so confusing. But this is really a lot to read :(

I really appreciate this

I was using this site on my laptop so just wanted to attach it there so I airdropped it … not that complicated

Thank you
Having trouble with vision...sorry. This will be terse...I have 3 cellphones, can't use any of them...vision loss. The product does not appear to be SN. There are at least two forms of bacteria, both causing diahrrea on their own which counteract the nitrite. One is E-Coli. cannot remember the other one, again my apologies. Right now I cannot even see the keys properly. The SN is very salty. No bitterness, no clumps. closer to white than yellow. Definitely turns fresh blood brown. I wishI could write more....because I do not believe it is/was nitrite...sigh...have to stop now.
is it possible that i mixed it too much? i dont even know anymore... just trying to get to the bottom of this. i had to mix quite a lot for a good 5 or more minutes until it was all fully dissolved because otherwise it was jut like crystallised salt stuck to the bottom of the glass..
SN does not take that long to dissolve. I sent you a message...I hope.
 
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what do you think about this attempt?
I'd rather not comment. I've commented enough on this thread from my old account.
I'm actually ignoring this thread now because there is no reason for me to see it.
 
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yeah it is the only one on here that i've seen so hopefully was just another dodgy batch. i have an aquarium test coming which should be with me by tomorrow so planning on doing that, hopefully can figure out the correct method. the consistency of this stuff is completely different from the last batch though which is promising
Hi. I really would love to hear what did you find out.
Sorry you went through whole stress related to attempting and all of the preparations and still have to do It again If you are set on dying.
 
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Stop the bullying, seriously. Censoring anything bad about SN is the reason I can't trust it!

I believe she was sincere and you've been cruel.

No wonder I heard reports of people sneaking back in under a new account, instead to say that SN failed.

people calling you a liar and prolifer is disgusting.

My friend tried to warn of downsides and was brutally bullied too.

If SN doesn't work or IC is fake, we need to know.

But if you keep torturing people they'll leave the site instead to warn us

Poison is the lowest success of all CTB methods. Why is SN working 100% when even a shotgun can fail. Denial & wishful thinking.

Failure is traumatic! We need warnings. It's easier to bypass SI if we can survive so maybe it's a good thing.

I need the source for the clumpy yellow photo? I:m in canada

Maybe it didn't work due to ansorbtions problems like celiac.

If it works by oxidation, then it'd fail for me because I take enough viramin C for pain... I'd even survive a nuclear bomb radiation... I guess I should avoid C for minimum 3 days before SN. Probably a week. But I don't think I could bear the pain.

I really need the bullying to stop. It's disgusting. She's one of us, she kindly asked for help & warned us.

I'd try to double the dose since her body is hood at detoxing poison. Maybe eat stuff that causes constipation as last meal? Vitamin c & magnesium have a laxative effect, so veggies makes me poop a lot.

I had anemia & hypiglycemia for years & my body knows how to compensate. I survived many things impossible to survive.

Some people SI are overly activated by chronic traumas.

Bullying those people as lying troll pro lifers fear mongerers... It's cruel.

Shit fails. Prepare yourself mentally. I'll order 2 bags for that reason.

Do we have other soyrces than IC & DD? I'm in canada.

I'm pro death. Pro murder. But bullying our own people is going too far. I understand that denial & anger is a reaction to grief.

But we all need to understand that no method is 100% effective and people tried to die for years. They are desperate, in pain, and deserve compassion.

Just go ahead and try your SN. People who don't dare to try can't criticize someone who tried twice. Try it and tell us.

I don't think we should go under 25g, but was told it was overkill to compensate for the vomit. 3g should be enough. Or 25g held 15 minutes before puking.

I agree that the color is white not yellow

So please pm her & me a yellow real DN source.

If IC is trolling us, we need to know. But if we bully people off the site, or scare them silent before they even try to warn us... We'll lose hundreds of dollars on false hope.

I need to know.

If I should hang instead of this miraculous way... I need to know. If I get brain damaged either way or suffer 8h in agony for no death... I need to know.

We have ZERO proof that they CTB successfully. They might be locked in psych wards for months!

They might feel too shamed to come back.

She was kind enough to bother sharing... We should verify our source & know that nothing is 100% sure. People survived jumping off a plane with no parachute. She can survive SN. Women are used to compensate for blood loss or blood problems.

Killing ourselves 100% sure with salt... Really? When people survived fentanil?

If you have access to cocaine why not OD on that hard drug? I'd trust it more than some sausage cult.

Don't get me wrong, I want to join the cult & drink the coolaid. But if the source is bad, I need to know before spending 160$.

Is it really too much to ask to evaluate possibilities & not insult our friend.

Unless I know the downsides, I don't trust. When something seem too good to be true, it usually is.

People might refrain from quitting their jobs if they knew SN isn't perfect. It could really help to warn.

People survived full hanging.

Sure, it causes despair to know that your ideal method isn't perfect. But survivors of actual attempts are in far bigger despair.

Have some compassion!

I wish I could take SN on zoom with you all, to let you see what it looks like after they stop replying goodbyes.

I need to know the truth. It might be a worse pain than hanging...

I need to know to choose. Stop getting in the way.

Thank you for warning us. I hope you'll go all out with max dose & succeed.
I write more when upset. Bullying from denial really upsets me.
 
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My SN turned into nitrate in a few days, not months. I had to remove all the clumps to reach the nitrite in the container, but it did not come from IC. I had great trouble finding a source and checked for alternate names for the chemical, and found it listed. I purchased another container and it will remain sealed until use.
How did you determine which was nitrate and which was nitrite? DO you have a background in chemistry so that you were able to determine this? This would be helpful to know. I read somewhere that the half life for converting nitrite into nitrate was 90 days, but this may not be accurate. Thanks for any further information on this.
 
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My SN turned into nitrate in a few days, not months. I had to remove all the clumps to reach the nitrite in the container, but it did not come from IC. I had great trouble finding a source and checked for alternate names for the chemical, and found it listed. I purchased another container and it will remain sealed until use.
Impossible. It takes longer than a few days for Nitrite to turn into Nitrate. It is not abnormal for Sodium Nitrite to clump or cake after the manufacturing date.
 
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If SN doesn't work or IC is fake, we need to know.

But if you keep torturing people they'll leave the site instead to warn us

Poison is the lowest success of all CTB methods. Why is SN working 100% when even a shotgun can fail. Denial & wishful thinking.

I need the source for the clumpy yellow photo? I:m in canada

But we all need to understand that no method is 100% effective and people tried to die for years. They are desperate, in pain, and deserve compassion.

I don't think we should go under 25g, but was told it was overkill to compensate for the vomit. 3g should be enough. Or 25g held 15 minutes before puking.

I agree that the color is white not yellow

So please pm her & me a yellow real DN source.

If IC is trolling us, we need to know. But if we bully people off the site, or scare them silent before they even try to warn us... We'll lose hundreds of dollars on false hope.

I need to know.

If I should hang instead of this miraculous way... I need to know. If I get brain damaged either way or suffer 8h in agony for no death... I need to know.

We have ZERO proof that they CTB successfully. They might be locked in psych wards for months!

They might feel too shamed to come back.

Killing ourselves 100% sure with salt... Really? When people survived fentanil?

If you have access to cocaine why not OD on that hard drug? I'd trust it more than some sausage cult.

Don't get me wrong, I want to join the cult & drink the coolaid. But if the source is bad, I need to know before spending 160$.

I need to know the truth. It might be a worse pain than hanging...
IC is not FAKE. They know what they are providing. It has been tested time and time again.

Poison is the lowest success? That's odd. Doesn't seem like this one is being that attention is being brought to it by all sorts of different angles including poison control making articles warning about the dangers of SN.

2 grams is a lethal dose but we should not come on here telling people '3 is enough' because then they will start trying to take only 3 grams which will possibly keep you alive for HOURS while you vomit over and over, go through an extreme headache, and have time to call for help. We should follow what we KNOW have worked time and time again.

if you google "what color is Sodium Nitrite it says "yellowish white"

Why would IC be "trolling" when MANY of people have used this product already and they have another website where they sell regulators?

There is NO proof that anyone has been left "brain dead" from Sodium Nitrite or "Paralyzed"

"We have ZERO proof that they CTB successfully" for many of users, YES we do. We knew their real names and have found their obituaries.
A lot of these users who come on here were active EVERY single day just about for months sometimes years, say they just drank sn, and never log back on.

"If you have access to cocaine why not OD on that hard drug? I'd trust it more than some sausage cult." Idk? Maybe because cocaine doesn't kill you that easily, it can cause
Heart attacks, Strokes and Multiple organ failures which has already been documented. It's illegal and hard to acquire for most people and it isn't a good method to commit suicide with? It is probably extremely painful?

People usually survive from Fentanyl because they are given an ANTIDOTE called NARCAN.

Why would you assume that methemoglobinemia would cause worse pain than hanging? Hanging can and in a lot of cases DOES leave people brain dead and paralyzed.
If you know how to do full suspension properly it can be very quick.. you can go unconscious in under 15 seconds.. you are still risking WAY more damage and ending up in a WAY worse situation if you fail..

I understand people being skeptical but goodness. If the method doesn't appeal to you, don't use it.
 
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Stop the bullying, seriously. Censoring anything bad about SN is the reason I can't trust it!

I believe she was sincere and you've been cruel.

No wonder I heard reports of people sneaking back in under a new account, instead to say that SN failed.

people calling you a liar and prolifer is disgusting.

My friend tried to warn of downsides and was brutally bullied too.

If SN doesn't work or IC is fake, we need to know.

But if you keep torturing people they'll leave the site instead to warn us

Poison is the lowest success of all CTB methods. Why is SN working 100% when even a shotgun can fail. Denial & wishful thinking.

Failure is traumatic! We need warnings. It's easier to bypass SI if we can survive so maybe it's a good thing.

I need the source for the clumpy yellow photo? I:m in canada

Maybe it didn't work due to ansorbtions problems like celiac.

If it works by oxidation, then it'd fail for me because I take enough viramin C for pain... I'd even survive a nuclear bomb radiation... I guess I should avoid C for minimum 3 days before SN. Probably a week. But I don't think I could bear the pain.

I really need the bullying to stop. It's disgusting. She's one of us, she kindly asked for help & warned us.

I'd try to double the dose since her body is hood at detoxing poison. Maybe eat stuff that causes constipation as last meal? Vitamin c & magnesium have a laxative effect, so veggies makes me poop a lot.

I had anemia & hypiglycemia for years & my body knows how to compensate. I survived many things impossible to survive.

Some people SI are overly activated by chronic traumas.

Bullying those people as lying troll pro lifers fear mongerers... It's cruel.

Shit fails. Prepare yourself mentally. I'll order 2 bags for that reason.

Do we have other soyrces than IC & DD? I'm in canada.

I'm pro death. Pro murder. But bullying our own people is going too far. I understand that denial & anger is a reaction to grief.

But we all need to understand that no method is 100% effective and people tried to die for years. They are desperate, in pain, and deserve compassion.

Just go ahead and try your SN. People who don't dare to try can't criticize someone who tried twice. Try it and tell us.

I don't think we should go under 25g, but was told it was overkill to compensate for the vomit. 3g should be enough. Or 25g held 15 minutes before puking.

I agree that the color is white not yellow

So please pm her & me a yellow real DN source.

If IC is trolling us, we need to know. But if we bully people off the site, or scare them silent before they even try to warn us... We'll lose hundreds of dollars on false hope.

I need to know.

If I should hang instead of this miraculous way... I need to know. If I get brain damaged either way or suffer 8h in agony for no death... I need to know.

We have ZERO proof that they CTB successfully. They might be locked in psych wards for months!

They might feel too shamed to come back.

She was kind enough to bother sharing... We should verify our source & know that nothing is 100% sure. People survived jumping off a plane with no parachute. She can survive SN. Women are used to compensate for blood loss or blood problems.

Killing ourselves 100% sure with salt... Really? When people survived fentanil?

If you have access to cocaine why not OD on that hard drug? I'd trust it more than some sausage cult.

Don't get me wrong, I want to join the cult & drink the coolaid. But if the source is bad, I need to know before spending 160$.

Is it really too much to ask to evaluate possibilities & not insult our friend.

Unless I know the downsides, I don't trust. When something seem too good to be true, it usually is.

People might refrain from quitting their jobs if they knew SN isn't perfect. It could really help to warn.

People survived full hanging.

Sure, it causes despair to know that your ideal method isn't perfect. But survivors of actual attempts are in far bigger despair.

Have some compassion!

I wish I could take SN on zoom with you all, to let you see what it looks like after they stop replying goodbyes.

I need to know the truth. It might be a worse pain than hanging...

I need to know to choose. Stop getting in the way.

Thank you for warning us. I hope you'll go all out with max dose & succeed.
I write more when upset. Bullying from denial really upsets me.
Who are you talking to? This is a very old thread. Any "bullies" are long gone. No one is censoring anything. Clearly, this thread has been read and reacted to. Your best friend "Freelifexit" is the bully. And you said you're just like him. I thought you were going to do partial hanging? What happened? I don't think you should try SN, it seems to always have you frazzled. We're a "sausage cult". Why don't you and Freelifexit leave us alone. I really think your attitude is abhorrent. It's clear that you hate us for wanting an easy way out, and an easier way out than hanging. Sorry that you feel like we don't talk about any negative cases with SN but we do a lot. And yes, it's fear of mine and others that we'll wake up with a giant headache, but it's because people like you keep claiming that cases such as this are the norm when it's not. Like I said, SN is clearly not for you because you constantly have so much hostility toward it and it's clear that you don't feel comfortable with it. So you don't have to be part of the sausage club. Again you admitted on another thread that you hated the fact that people would rather use SN rather than hang. Just stop.
 
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this happened to my friend. he had no after effects. eventually ended up using N
 
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