Discussion Do you believe in the afterlife?

[ForceUser101]

Personally, I am of the believe that there is something after death (for better or worse) but It will probably not be what you envision. I don't believe that it will be some heavenly paradise as one life is not enough to judge whether one's character is good or not.

If it is true that we go to sleep forever until the end of time, then why do we wake up in this life without having gone to sleep?

Ultimately, we do not know what happens after death and it is the uncertainty that scares lots of people.

 

[Sad Avocado]

there being an afterlife for me would be the most sadistic thing that could happen

I agree with you, unless it's an after life of pleasure, peace and without all my problems

 

[ZoloftSüchtig]

I would hope that I have the chance to relive my life on maybe a parallel universe? As the same person I'm now but not doing the stupid mistake I made in this life that ruined my life

 

[Sad Avocado]

Personally, I am of the believe that there is something after death (for better or worse) but It will probably not be what you envision. I don't believe that it will be some heavenly paradise as one life is not enough to judge whether one's character is good or not.

If it is true that we go to sleep forever until the end of time, then why do we wake up in this life without having gone to sleep?

Ultimately, we do not know what happens after death and it is the uncertainty that scares lots of people.

And, if I can ask, what do you personally believe is there after we die?

I would hope that I have the chance to relive my life on maybe a parallel universe? As the same person I'm now but not doing the stupid mistake I made in this life that ruined my life

Me too with a completly new life without pain

 

[Alltheywanted]

I belive in soul and that we reincarnate after death.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

57% here say there is no afterlife . I agree. in the general population it's much lower. definitely people here are more intuned with reality.

There is no afterlife no reincarnation .After death is non-existence forever.

 

[Sad Avocado]

57% here say there is no afterlife . I agree. in the general population it's much lower. definitely people here are more intuned with reality.

There is no afterlife no reincarnation .After death is non-existence forever.

I kinda agree with you but you can't be really sure of that

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I kinda agree with you but you can't be really sure of that

so you don't agree with evolution , cell theory of life, biology text books , brain science , artificial intelligence books ?

4.3: Studying Cells - Cell Theory

Cell theory states that living things are composed of one or more cells, that the cell is the basic unit of life, and that cells arise from existing cells.

bio.libretexts.org

 

[Sad Avocado]

so you don't agree with evolution , cell theory of life, biology , brain science ?

No I'm extremely rational and I believe that there's nothing after death but you can't really be sure since it hasn't been proved, observed or something like that. Evolution has been proved so I can say it's true 100% but after life and stuff like that are just speculation and hypotesis

 

[Sad Avocado]

I belive in soul and that we reincarnate after death.

Before doing this thread i believed in this too

 

[brokeandbroken]

I'm a Christian and I believe in God more then happy to explain why. That said. I think the better question is... Is God good? The bible talks about fruits of their labor. For me I don't see Christians as generally good. I think the vast amount of Christians are inherently narcistic and selfish. How many Christians follow teachings of people like Joel Olsteen preaching the prosperity gospel. Come to this church and you'll be rich!! For the record I don't live anywhere near Texas just an example... Humans are fallible and that is fair. But shouldn't Christianity be something of a vague reflection of God? I'm not casting a vote either way I am inherently agnostic on the topic but I think it is worth raising the question.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

To me, belief in afterlife is just way to cope with suffering, or to scare others into submission. There's a reason why it's more common in third world countries and times of crisis.

But couldn't you say something similar about some people's belief or hope in nothingness too?

Look at the motivations that are very often behind the desire for there to be nothing after death, because people have experienced something in this existence and it has not been a pleasant experience. So they are hoping for nothingness as a sort of coping mechanism to counter what we are currently going through.

I think when go down the road of absolutes, in either direction, both atheists and religious folk start to sound and act very similar to each other. A truly honest and open minded person, would simply admit that they do not know and cannot know the answer to these questions. So long as it is only a hope for nothingness, rather than a belief in nothingness, I don't have any issue with this stance tbh.

 

[Pipsqueak!]

Never really thought about it but I've always thought it would be just like it was before you were born- there's nothing and you're not aware of anything. Seems ideal to me, lol.

 

[MrDarkness]

I think the after life, heaven is the most peaceful kind loving place, like enjoying the warm summer sun, or the warm feeling you get from love ones, it a kind peaceful place, but If it isn't real idc cause my brain will be dead and I won't even know it, but I hope

 

[Sad Avocado]

But couldn't you say something similar about some people's belief or hope in nothingness too?

Look at the motivations that are very often behind the desire for there to be nothing after death, because people have experienced something in this existence and it has not been a pleasant experience. So they are hoping for nothingness as a sort of coping mechanism to counter what we are currently going through.

I think when go down the road of absolutes, in either direction, both atheists and religious folk start to sound and act very similar to each other. A truly honest and open minded person, would simply admit that they do not know and cannot know the answer to these questions. So long as it is only a hope for nothingness, rather than a belief in nothingness, I don't have any issue with this stance tbh.

I wouldn't mind the fact of starting a new completely different new life. Possibly without the mistakes I've done in this one. Like a parallel universe. Probably it isn't the most probable scenario but it is the one I like the most.

I think the after life, heaven is the most peaceful kind loving place, like enjoying the warm summer sun, or the warm feeling you get from love ones, it a kind peaceful place, but If it isn't real idc cause my brain will be dead and I won't even know it, but I hope

Me too but I think it was created just to cope with the pain and suffering of life.

 

[_Alfarooq_]

I believe in the afterlife as a Muslim, and I don't give a single fuck that I am going to burn in hell for CTB.

 

[Sad Avocado]

I believe in the afterlife as a Muslim, and I don't give a single fuck that I am going to burn in hell for CTB.

I mean life is pretty much already hell

 

[SilentSadness]

But couldn't you say something similar about some people's belief or hope in nothingness too?

Look at the motivations that are very often behind the desire for there to be nothing after death, because people have experienced something in this existence and it has not been a pleasant experience. So they are hoping for nothingness as a sort of coping mechanism to counter what we are currently going through.

I think when go down the road of absolutes, in either direction, both atheists and religious folk start to sound and act very similar to each other. A truly honest and open minded person, would simply admit that they do not know and cannot know the answer to these questions. So long as it is only a hope for nothingness, rather than a belief in nothingness, I don't have any issue with this stance tbh.

If there is an afterlife, I will be killing myself there as well.

 

[KAZ-2Y5]

Yes. Here's why below:

I truly believe now bc I've had conversations with God when I've called out to Him on a few occasions. I've felt an intense warm presence all around me when I've called out to God.

Ive received signs exactly as I've asked for them and messages/answers to my questions.

For example I asked for hearts as a sign.

I've asked for a message in the form of a dream to be sent to someone I knew and asked God if He could send the message to the person I was thinking of, that night I dreamt of 1111 then I woke up and the clock said 11:11. I had an intuitive inkling the message was delivered. (Also to note: I never wake up around that time, I used to wake up around 2/3am and always had gone to bed the same time.)

Ive received prophetic dreams with enough details to fill a whole page in a notebook. (Prophecies are just seeing the future before it happens so you can essentially change a course of events. Or at least that's what I tried to do after receiving them.) I saw places I had never been before in that much detail. And it was warning me to stay away from certain people/things.

 

[oiopb]

My god would forgive me for my suicide, why not? he put me here and gonna punish me for getting out? how absurd

 

[Sad Avocado]

My god would forgive me for my suicide, why not? he put me here and gonna punish me for getting out? how absurd

yes I agree with that but I think a suicide because of suffering and pain will be and should be tolerated

 

[phersper]

I would hope that I have the chance to relive my life on maybe a parallel universe? As the same person I'm now but not doing the stupid mistake I made in this life that ruined my life

Same !

Watch this !!

Minute 10:50

 

[carac]

Logic would dictate that there is nothing after death. However this world is far from rational. Science can't, and I don't think ever will, be able to explain everything.

 

[KAZ-2Y5]

Yes. Here's why below:

I truly believe now bc I've had conversations with God when I've called out to Him on a few occasions. I've felt an intense warm presence all around me when I've called out to God.

Ive received signs exactly as I've asked for them and messages/answers to my questions.

For example I asked for hearts as a sign.

I've asked for a message in the form of a dream to be sent to someone I knew and asked God if He could send the message to the person I was thinking of, that night I dreamt of 1111 then I woke up and the clock said 11:11. I had an intuitive inkling the message was delivered. (Also to note: I never wake up around that time, I used to wake up around 2/3am and always had gone to bed the same time.)

Ive received prophetic dreams with enough details to fill a whole page in a notebook. (Prophecies are just seeing the future before it happens so you can essentially change a course of events. Or at least that's what I tried to do after receiving them.) I saw places I had never been before in that much detail. And it was warning me to stay away from certain people/things.

Same !

Watch this !!

Minute 10:50

That video was disturbing

 

[Takamagahara]

It's pure copium on my part. Realistically, I'm a materialist--there is no soul or higher dimension. What we call a "human being" is simply a combination of biochemical reactions and electrical impulses inside of a brain.

But I fantasize about the unknown boundary after death. That there are other worlds and dimensions that might be explored. That maybe there is some benevolent higher power that will take pity on me.

 

[doneforlife]

I am 50-50 on this. Neither do I have the knowledge and visibility to say that an after life exists, nor do I have this conviction that it is infinite nothingness post death.

 

[KAZ-2Y5]

That video was disturbing

This video contradicts what the woman says in your video @phersper

I agree with you, unless it's an after life of pleasure, peace and without all my problems

there being an afterlife for me would be the most sadistic thing that could happen

I agree

 

[Sad Avocado]

It's pure copium on my part. Realistically, I'm a materialist--there is no soul or higher dimension. What we call a "human being" is simply a combination of biochemical reactions and electrical impulses inside of a brain.

But I fantasize about the unknown boundary after death. That there are other worlds and dimensions that might be explored. That maybe there is some benevolent higher power that will take pity on me.

I wouldn't mind the idea of beginning a totally new different life (possibly without pain) maybe in an universe in which i never existed

 

[Takamagahara]

I wouldn't mind the idea of beginning a totally new different life (possibly without pain) maybe in an universe in which i never existed

You know, I waffle back on forth on this--in a hypothetical reincarnation scenario, would it better to be a clean slate or to keep my memories and remain "me"?

Of course, I think the answers is different for everyone.

For someone who is carrying debilitating trauma or feel an inherent sense of wrongness in themselves, if they had to be reincarnated as opposed to choosing formless oblivion, I think they would choose to be a blank slate--to be someone else without painful memories. For someone with some kind of medical illness, they'd probably be okay with just being reborn as themselves but in a healthy physical form.

For me personally, my unhappiness comes from how absolutely inescapable my circumstances are. If I were reincarnated with my memories but allowed to choose my talents, where I was born, and all that, I think I could find a way to be happy. I would see that as a "just" or "fair" outcome. I don't see the point in reincarnating without my memories. After all, who's to say I won't just be re-traumatized and CTB again?

 

[Heartaches]

I don't believe there's anything after death, just nothingness. It still conflicts me, but I find it better than reencarnation, resurrection or anything similar, because the idea of coming back over, and over, and over again against my own will sounds even worse. Forced to suffer, repeat the same mistakes, be at the will of those in power, that's agonizing. Maybe I could still get the chance to experience beautiful and good things, but is it worth? I think not. Just this life is enough.

I don't care or have a problem with those who believe on the afterlife or resurrection, but I don't like how some force their believes upon others to force them to live and think of life in a limited way, where you can only do certain things and think a certain way, instill fear, paranoia and punishment.

I wish death was less feared and stigmatized in general. Death is a natural, neutral concept, good nor bad, it is simply the eventuality of every form of life; no use trying to run away from that fact.​