I don't know, but if they open it, they'll ruin the product. At the beginning I did a declaration that it was a mask, but later in the day I changed it saying it was a Rebreather with a mask. So, maybe I did it worse, in the sense of getting more attention and, therefore, the package open.
In Spain you have to make a declaration and show other documents if the cost is more than 150 euros. They ask you some questions, I don't know but now I don't think changing your declaration is good. I suppose in the end I'll receive the product, but if they open it they'll ruin it.
Yes. It's why they say if you take out the masks to test them you need to reseal the bag within 3-5 days with an iron to keep the granules fresh.
That does make sense, I thought that was refered to the outer cover, but doesn't make sense. My English is not good.
Why do you have to open that plastic bag? A member who bought it said to me that the plastic bag is outside the blue bag, not inside.
Well i don't have one so I can't say.. it's how I interpreted it from the pictures and instructions? Either way if there's a sealed plastic bag, customs will know unsealing it may cause issues. Unless they suspected drugs or explosives i doubt they'd open it.
No, that specific plastic bag, look at the picture at post 850.
Ah!! This pic shows actual packaging. You are correct .. plastic bag on outside that says do not open
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I am also very afraid of brain damage.I did some research on brain injury due nitrogen, found this. My impression is that if the ReBreather process is interrupted when it's gone past mere nitrogen intoxication, there can be permanent brain damage. I haven't researched the impacts on lungs and heart.
Learn about Anoxic and Hypoxic Brain Injuries
Anoxic and Hypoxic brain injuries occur when the brain is deprived of oxygen. Learn more about these brain injuries from Shepherd Center.www.shepherd.org
Also, I read an article about nitrogen narcosis (intoxication) for SCUBA divers. The effects were what @enjolras shared on this thread for pilot training. I noted that a possible symptom is hallucinating -- some have attacked their dive buddies, tried adjusting octopi instead of their equipment, heard fish talking, etc. So this makes me concerned that if one is experiencing the narcosis and hasn't yet lost consciousness, they may hallucinate and do something to stop the ctb, or worse, something that draws attention. From reading the SCUBA article, though, it seems there is not a problem with recovery from nitrogen narcosis.
What is Nitrogen Narcosis: Everything You Need to Know - AquaViews
Understand what nitrogen narcosis is, its symptoms and the treatment required for it. This is something deep water scuba divers should know.
This medical jourmal article was about a Korean man who survived a nitrogen gas attempt - not a debreather - and had brain damage. He had been unconscious for several hours after the attempt, and a few days later went to the hospital with physical symptoms caused by brain damage.
I read the previously shared medical journal article with the 10 successful assisted debreather ctb's, and I understand from listening to a Vimeo presentation by Richard that the ReBreather was designed to improve on the old design and allow ctb without assistance. But no one has tested this product, and who the eff wants to be a guinea pig for potential brain damage? I really want the peaceful passing its meant to provide, but what is the risk?
@enjolras, the ReBreather method isn't quite the same as inhaling gas from a tank of nitrogen. What is your opinion on the information I've gathered here? Right now I'm feeling scared of the ReBreather method and wondering if I could tough out the effects of SN with the propanolol potentiator, knowing that the method is certain to be successful as I won't be interrupted. With the ReBreather, I also won't be interrupted, but I am afraid of interrupting myself such as during possible hallucinations, or the method somehow not completing and I end up with brain damage.
Brain damage is the huge concern, but I don't think your brain cells begim to die when you're semiunconscious, but minutes later of getting unconsciouss.
That is still peaceful imho. On the other hand, there is a downside of tying your hands, what happens if there is leaking and you're still consciouss?
I did some research on brain injury due to nitrogen, found this. My impression is that if the ReBreather process is interrupted when it's gone past mere nitrogen intoxication, there can be permanent brain damage. I haven't researched the impacts on lungs and heart.
Learn about Anoxic and Hypoxic Brain Injuries
Anoxic and Hypoxic brain injuries occur when the brain is deprived of oxygen. Learn more about these brain injuries from Shepherd Center.www.shepherd.org
Also, I read an article about nitrogen narcosis (intoxication) for SCUBA divers. The effects were what @enjolras shared on this thread for pilot training. I noted that a possible symptom is hallucinating -- some have attacked their dive buddies, tried adjusting octopi instead of their equipment, heard fish talking, etc. So this makes me concerned that if one is experiencing the narcosis and hasn't yet lost consciousness, they may hallucinate and do something to stop the ctb, or worse, something that draws attention. From reading the SCUBA article, though, it seems there is not a problem with recovery from nitrogen narcosis.
What is Nitrogen Narcosis: Everything You Need to Know - AquaViews
Understand what nitrogen narcosis is, its symptoms and the treatment required for it. This is something deep water scuba divers should know.
This medical jourmal article was about a Korean man who survived a nitrogen gas attempt - not a debreather - and had brain damage. He had been unconscious for several hours after the attempt, and a few days later went to the hospital with physical symptoms caused by brain damage.
I read the previously shared medical journal article with the 10 successful assisted debreather ctb's, and I understand from listening to a Vimeo presentation by Richard that the ReBreather was designed to improve on the old design and allow ctb without assistance. But no one has tested this product, and who the eff wants to be a guinea pig for potential brain damage? I really want the peaceful passing it's meant to provide, but what is the risk?
@enjolras, the ReBreather method isn't quite the same as inhaling gas from a tank of nitrogen. What is your opinion on the information I've gathered here? Right now I'm feeling scared of the ReBreather method and wondering if I could tough out the effects of SN with the propanolol potentiator, knowing that the method is certain to be successful as I won't be interrupted. With the ReBreather, I also won't be interrupted, but I am afraid of interrupting myself such as during possible hallucinations, or the method somehow not completing and I end up with brain damage.
We need EI info. I'm 39. Imroch, your provided us with valuable info, but you should have posted here with a different name from EI forum. It's normal they don't want to be associated with a no-medic suicide forum they don't lead.
In the 2010 study states that some patients took benzos. Besides, someone posted here sn answer from Richard Avocet saying that benzos where recommended. I don't see why, but benzos are available.
