legal trouble would be more complicated in case of H or F. No one buys N for any other reason than to ctb and, at least where I live, you will probably get away with a hospital stay. there's also the fact that you can go on YT and watch people die of N and it seems peaceful. and fuck the money, honestly. I have spend 700 bucks on more stupid things than that.
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Tbh I think you have a better chance buying Nembutal online than fentanyl all google searches throw up scam websites, even on the dark web they have been closed down and arrested so I thought they will start selling more Nembutal to raise some funds, trying to get fentanyl in the UK is so hard.
Good luck, keep us posted if it arrives, I know Exit was offering a testing service but more dollars.
I'm not mean to buy fentanyl through the darknet, I have a diller in my country
Anyway this will be my last try to buy nembutal, it's too scary for me to handle
This is simply a hunch, and you can take it or leave it, but if people are trying to "push" a certain method, or suddenly "panicking" about side effects of other methods, they may have another agenda.
Example:
Someone new posts:
SNcauses permanent blindness, deafness, and excruciating pain?
Later, on another thread they post:
My N just arrived, I tested it, and it only cost $400. PM me for details!
You are responsible for educating yourself and for doing your own research.
Email addresses for N scammers have turned up in the PPH and on the Wiki, which is edited by a number of people.
Any information on the Wiki gets edited frequently, even with regard to methods. Bear this in mind, please.
Yes, it's important for people to always exercise caution when new possible sources of products are mentioned.
And this can especially apply when this comes from new members, which is a shame for new members who are genuine, since they can be wrongly viewed with suspicion, but this can't really be avoided, due to the need to protect vulnerable members.
Some thoughts / observations on considering "new sources" (slight tangent, but some ideas that may be worth carrying forward) :
In general it's preferable (where possible) to buy from a marketplace where you can see order volumes and feedback ratings, and where there's an escrow (although escrows can backfire during "exit scams"), although that doesn't mean other stores can't be valid, but it's tricky to know which stores might be valid due to how common scams are.
I suppose to be more confident in the validity of a new source, you would want one or more well established forum member(s) to buy the product, send for testing, and report back.
If nobody wants to take the possible "financial hit", then several people could club together (eg using monero for anonymity), and one person could order and send for testing (eg EC labs).
If the product turns out to be good, then the person who ordered it could keep it, and pay back the other people who chipped in, assuming the person who did the ordering is also looking to buy that product (this would be pre-agreed of course).
Of course, we have to be careful because the person who does the ordering could lie about the product being bad or lie about not receiving the product, so they can keep it while only paying for a portion of the cost, so there is trust involved....
Due to the possible incentive to lie in this way to get the product for a low price, perhaps a better scheme is to have a "lottery", where one person is picked to receive the product, and that person gets to keep the product without needing to pay back the others who chipped in. This removes the incentive for that person to lie.
random.org has a "premium" service that allows "shared" random numbers to be viewed by multiple people. Make sure you agree in advance which random.org user id will be used to avoid any clever "fixing".
This could be used to conduct the lottery in a fair way, and determine the winner.
The "trails" area of random.org allows others to view and confirm the numbers generated :
This page shows the personal trail [...] using true randomness, which for many purposes is better than the pseudo-random number algorithms typically used in computer programs.
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Obviously, those taking part in the lottery should agree in advance to pay their portion of the cost of the item, regardless of whether they "win" the lottery or not. Obviously if people are happy to "chip in" and for one member to buy the item and keep it without paying anything back, then the "lottery" might not be needed.
Of course we also have to consider whether the vendor is just being on "initial best behaviour".
So a safer way to proceed if a product appears to "check out" is for people to gradually place orders, and to collectively keep track of successes vs failures. We can create threads specifically for this, eg a thread title would be : "order tracking : <x> from <y>".
Of course, you still have to assess who is posting to such a thread and whether they can be trusted....
Sadly this is the nature of things given the numbers of scammers out there....
Buying from a marketplace with order volumes and feedback ratings, and where there's an escrow should be the preference, but that still isn't guaranteed, so some of the ideas above may also be useful.
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I don't think it's him, the scammers who tried to blackmail me called 'global nembutal'
They use a fake delivery company named 'capital courier' (They impersonate the original shipping company)
The person who did it was banned on here shortly after, not sure if it was related to that or not. Can't remember the name they gave me. I think many scammers try and pretend they are A.
Yes, it's important for people to always exercise caution when new possible sources of products are mentioned.
Some thoughts / observations on considering "new sources" (slight tangent, but some ideas that may be worth carrying forward) :
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Buying from a marketplace with order volumes and feedback ratings, and where there's an escrow should be the preference, but that still isn't guaranteed, so some of the ideas above may also be useful.
N from C would be my preferred method. A forum member had his N from C tested within roughly the last 6 weeks, I won't reveal the exact result as he only told me via PM, I'll only say I would still choose N from C. Fentanyl is more common and cheaper but swallowing/snorting/through the skin has low bioavailability, IV is preferred but many don't want to do that.
Opioid overdose deaths in Massachusetts increased 150% from 2012 to 2015.
www.cdc.gov
"The high percentage of fatal overdoses occurring at home with no naloxone present, coupled with the rapid onset of overdose symptoms after using fentanyl through injection or insufflation"
I don't think you'd need to snort much of it if it's pure.
I would like to add I have OD'd on an analog of f, called acetyl-f.
F isn't completely needed, just an analog, especially to those with no tolerance. Snorting 50-100mg put me out, wasn't even an attempt, took several narcan kits to revive. If you can ensure you won't be found...
edit: It is class A or whatever the worst class of drug is criminally in most places. As are most f analogs, it is however remarkably cheaper than N or H, more expensive than SN
I would like to add I have OD'd on an analog of f, called acetyl-f.
F isn't completely needed, just an analog, especially to those with no tolerance. Snorting 50-100mg put me out, wasn't even an attempt, took several narcan kits to revive. If you can ensure you won't be found...
edit: It is class A or whatever the worst class of drug is criminally in most places. As are most f analogs, it is however remarkably cheaper than N or H, more expensive than SN
Thanks for the information. Everyone needs to be aware that "acetyl" means acetic acid, which means that it could burn sensitive membranes it comes in contact with.
The Vitamin E "acetate" ingredient found in vape liquids is the reason why they are under fire now. The acetate was damaging lung tissue over time.
Anyways, who cares about all this if you are planning to ctb?
Thanks for the information. Everyone needs to be aware that "acetyl" means acetic acid, which means that it could burn sensitive membranes it comes in contact with.
The Vitamin E "acetate" ingredient found in vape liquids is the reason why they are under fire now. The acetate was damaging lung tissue over time.
Anyways, who cares about all this if you are planning to ctb?
I am not sure what you are saying is correct, or at least the implication of it. And would state that people do their own research on this. But I am simply supplying information to people who may or may not store their method for some time before utilizing it.
You should not post this in the public. I'm sure law enforcement would thank you for all the details they need to detect future packages from coming in...
Keep us updated on how your testing goes....
The ideal test is to send it to a lab for analysis.
You probably know about that already, but if not then PM me.
You'll need to download the tor browser to access empire. Once you're in empire search for N, you'll find him. There's another thread for N from C you might want to check that out!
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