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hdead

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Jun 2, 2026
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I hadn't read anything about using an antiseptic beforehand—do you know the reason for that? I ask because N is my protocol!
Because it tastes nasty, the body will recognize the fact it's poison so it's a preventive measure.
 
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Endstati0n

"dying is like taking off a tight shoe" - ram dass
May 10, 2026
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I hadn't read anything about using an antiseptic beforehand—do you know the reason for that? I ask because N is my protocol!
Anti metic, not septic. Theres a risk for vomiting with N when drinking it
 
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Marine

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Jul 5, 2020
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If anyone finds a reliable source that ships overseas please let us know 🙏
 
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Serena 2026

Serena 2026

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Jan 15, 2026
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Cepheuss

Experienced
Apr 17, 2023
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If anyone finds a reliable source that ships overseas please let us know 🙏
Its better to lose hope unfortunately. N is basically impossible to get and at the very least you would have to travel for it. Not to mention the cost
 
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Marine

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Jul 5, 2020
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Its better to lose hope unfortunately. N is basically impossible to get and at the very least you would have to travel for it. Not to mention the cost
I'm not into "losing hope", not for me. But I'm also looking into firearms anyway.
 
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paranoias64

paranoias64

basket case
Nov 25, 2025
38
has anyone ever tried to make any n? or is it too complex or expensive of a compound for non chemists try and make?
 
Tautochrome

Tautochrome

Exploder
Nov 22, 2025
151
has anyone ever tried to make any n? or is it too complex or expensive of a compound for non chemists try and make?
Yes, me. And I probably succeeded, but had trouble purifying the product and didn't trust it enough. It's not very complex, but one compound was a bitch to source and I ended up overpaying because I'm unaffiliated with institutions. Also the synthesis takes a few days so prepare to plan your activities around that.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
4,508
Yes, me. And I probably succeeded, but had trouble purifying the product and didn't trust it enough. It's not very complex, but one compound was a bitch to source and I ended up overpaying because I'm unaffiliated with institutions. Also the synthesis takes a few days so prepare to plan your activities around that.
maybe you could post a thread in the private area detailing how you synthesized Pentobarbital ? or could you PM me the details if you don't want to go post it for many to see ?

there's a lab in Spain that tests Nembutal and pentobarbital %.
 
Tautochrome

Tautochrome

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Nov 22, 2025
151
maybe you could post a thread in the private area detailing how you synthesized Pentobarbital ? or could you PM me the details if you don't want to go post it for many to see ?

there's a lab in Spain that tests Nembutal and pentobarbital %.
I might post, but wouldn't want it to be seen as a definitive tutorial as there's a chance I did things wrong, and in the end it wasnt what I'd call a full success - shit didn't want to properly crystallize. I followed old pph's instructions and filled in gaps with a few external sources :v
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
4,508
I might post, but wouldn't want it to be seen as a definitive tutorial as there's a chance I did things wrong, and in the end it wasnt what I'd call a full success - shit didn't want to properly crystallize. I followed old pph's instructions and filled in gaps with a few external sources :v
maybe if you post it others especially with chemistry experience could help out or try it and get it tested in the Spain Lab?

@Intoxicated seems to have chemistry experience and knowledge.

but this should be in the suicide private section.

i should've taken chemistry classes in college.

i'm surprised no one ever thought of being a chemistry major here for this purpose. i've seen others with the idea of becoming a Vet to get access to Pentobarbital . but to become a vet is more competitive . to get the chemistry classes and the lab work in a university all you would need is to be accepted to a university with a chemistry program and take a few pre-requisites. financial aid for attending classes is usually available. it would be helpful cause you can get acces to lab equipment to get practice in the lab classes.

also for the synthesis of fentanyl for ctb purposes.

do you have chemistry experience ? @Tautochrome

i guess someone could also do self study . get the textbooks and other chemistry books . and some practice lab equipment to start.

 
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bodys_prisoner

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Apr 12, 2024
36
I might post, but wouldn't want it to be seen as a definitive tutorial as there's a chance I did things wrong, and in the end it wasnt what I'd call a full success - shit didn't want to properly crystallize. I followed old pph's instructions and filled in gaps with a few external sources :v
Can I find these old PPHs on our forum?
 
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carfemtanyl

Student
Nov 18, 2025
187
I might post, but wouldn't want it to be seen as a definitive tutorial as there's a chance I did things wrong, and in the end it wasnt what I'd call a full success - shit didn't want to properly crystallize. I followed old pph's instructions and filled in gaps with a few external sources :v
barbiturates are known to be a bitch to crystallize
 
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Ardis

Member
Apr 21, 2026
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I have to assume that there is a reliable supplier somewhere. Most people if the price is right will find it. Most of us rely on the PPH for all information. They are helpful, but very limited. Considering the size and scope of their organization, they should be able to provide us with a couple of reliable sources. They charge a lot of money for the PPH, list all kinds of methods etc, but provide very limited information on sources. Posting methods but no way to get product is useless. Going to Peru or some other foreign country is next to impossible for most of us. Are there any Spanish speakers on here that might be able to email local pharmacies in remote parts of Peru and other south amercian countries to see if any of them will do business with a bunch of us on here? If we combine our resources, and the price is right, someone down there might be willing to play ball. There is strength in numbers and the amount of money there is in it for them. Anyone have thoughts on this?
 
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bodys_prisoner

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Apr 12, 2024
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I have to assume that there is a reliable supplier somewhere. Most people if the price is right will find it. Most of us rely on the PPH for all information. They are helpful, but very limited. Considering the size and scope of their organization, they should be able to provide us with a couple of reliable sources. They charge a lot of money for the PPH, list all kinds of methods etc, but provide very limited information on sources. Posting methods but no way to get product is useless. Going to Peru or some other foreign country is next to impossible for most of us. Are there any Spanish speakers on here that might be able to email local pharmacies in remote parts of Peru and other south amercian countries to see if any of them will do business with a bunch of us on here? If we combine our resources, and the price is right, someone down there might be willing to play ball. There is strength in numbers and the amount of money there is in it for them. Anyone have thoughts on this?
I think that the lack of a reliable, guaranteed sales scheme for N will deter every potential seller (veterinarian). It's comparable to selling heroin. You would need to come up with a specific system for shipping the product, receiving the money, and laundering it. I think only drug cartels really know how to handle something like that. And until there is a proven, reliable system in place, veterinarians are unlikely to sell anything.
 
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DeadManLiving

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Sep 9, 2022
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Apparently, even Mexico has become harder. All the cool kids are going to Peru these days.
How so? I heard Peru was harder. Maybe more difficult than the Metropolitan areas, but there are veterinary clinics or pharmacies out in Rogue areas may be controlled by the cartel where you have to pay a bribe or whatever and you'll get what you need. I think the original issue was that, a lot of these Metropolitan pharmacies were getting an influx of foreign tourists who were just taking the N right then and there on the street or hotel, and then some red flags started popping up in hospitals with a bunch of foreigners mysteriously dying in large numbers that created a diplomatic issue of sorts. That's my understanding.
Yes, that's what I did, and I succeeded! 🍀
For real?
 
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Throwawaysoul

Warlock
May 14, 2018
709
I feel like the person you're replying too just needs someone name Johnson to rip them off at this point. With that post count one would think they know their way around this site. Johnson was like 2022. @DontTouchMeImFamous doesn't know about searching. lol

I maybe search shaming, but it's a really valuable skill to learn. At this point this site should just remove the magnifying glass icon (that means search for those that are new ) It will save the owners some bandwidth.

I mean magnifying glass + Johnson = literally hundreds of posts.
Yaaay im so happy and wanted to share my story with u guys.

First, I'm almost 90% confident it's legit. Yeah, it feels tooo good to be true and I'm super anxious about the whole thing, but I'm confident because I found it mentioned by a widely trusted person in some very old, almost forgotten reference. That person listed multiple sources and provided their respective emails. I reached out to all of them, but every single email bounced except for this one. Some people in that reference shared their experiences with the mentioned sources, and the feedback was mostly positive, which makes me wonder: if these email addresses were working ten years ago, why aren't they now? And what does that even mean? And why this one email is the only one that didn't bounce?

I'm worried about the customs clearance more than anything but they said they will handle it and label the powder as something "normal" but I'm still worried.

I'm gonna place my order and will update you. If it turned out good, I'll provide more details. Wish me luck! 🤞

Last questions, how many grams do I need of Nembutal in order to die? I'm planning to order extra amount so I can minimize the chance of failing. Also, what even are the consequences of failing? Like, can someone end up a vegetable from a failed attempt with Nembutal? Aaand how do I even test if this stuff is real Nembutal?

I'm not gonna place my order until I'm 100% sure it'll work. Plz help me figure this out! 🙏
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found a legit Nembutal source that ships intl-y

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You say that with so much confidence. Why are you so confident that you found a sourceif you haven't received it or even ordered it yet?
 
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Serena 2026

Student
Jan 15, 2026
156
Presumo que exista um fornecedor confiável em algum lugar. A maioria das pessoas, se o preço for bom, o encontrará. A maioria de nós depende do PPH para todas as informações. Eles são úteis, mas muito limitados. Considerando o tamanho e o alcance da organização, eles deveriam ser capazes de nos fornecer algumas fontes confiáveis. Eles cobram muito dinheiro pelo PPH, listam todos os tipos de métodos, etc., mas fornecem informações muito limitadas sobre as fontes. Publicar métodos sem mostrar como obter o produto é inútil. Ir ao Peru ou a algum outro país estrangeiro é praticamente impossível para a maioria de nós. Há alguém aqui que fale espanhol e que possa enviar e-mails para farmácias locais em áreas remotas do Peru e de outros países da América do Sul para ver se alguma delas faria negócios com um grupo de nós? Se unirmos nossos recursos e o preço for bom, alguém por lá pode estar disposto a negociar. A união faz a força, e há muito dinheiro envolvido para eles. Alguém tem alguma ideia sobre isso?
How so? I heard Peru was harder. Maybe more difficult than the Metropolitan areas, but there are veterinary clinics or pharmacies out in Rogue areas may be controlled by the cartel where you have to pay a bribe or whatever and you'll get what you need. I think the original issue was that, a lot of these Metropolitan pharmacies were getting an influx of foreign tourists who were just taking the N right then and there on the street or hotel, and then some red flags started popping up in hospitals with a bunch of foreigners mysteriously dying in large numbers that created a diplomatic issue of sorts. That's my understanding.

For real?
I have to assume that there is a reliable supplier somewhere. Most people if the price is right will find it. Most of us rely on the PPH for all information. They are helpful, but very limited. Considering the size and scope of their organization, they should be able to provide us with a couple of reliable sources. They charge a lot of money for the PPH, list all kinds of methods etc, but provide very limited information on sources. Posting methods but no way to get product is useless. Going to Peru or some other foreign country is next to impossible for most of us. Are there any Spanish speakers on here that might be able to email local pharmacies in remote parts of Peru and other south amercian countries to see if any of them will do business with a bunch of us on here? If we combine our resources, and the price is right, someone down there might be willing to play ball. There is strength in numbers and the amount of money there is in it for them. Anyone have thoughts on this?
Well, speaking Spanish isn't an obstacle to writing messages or emails; I use Google Translate without any issues to communicate—including right here on the site—since I speak neither Spanish nor English... and that didn't stop me from going to Peru to get my N, either. The biggest problem I see is shipping the N from Peru to other countries. I asked the veterinarian to send it to me, but he refused, saying it would be risky due to customs. Even in my own country, it would be a major issue, as the N would be confiscated here. Right now, I don't see any other solution besides going to pick it up yourself. Perhaps if you found a less-than-ethical veterinarian willing to swap the N's labels for something else so it could be mailed... but how do you find a vet like that without taking risks? 🤷🏻‍♀️🫤🙄
How so? I heard Peru was harder. Maybe more difficult than the Metropolitan areas, but there are veterinary clinics or pharmacies out in Rogue areas may be controlled by the cartel where you have to pay a bribe or whatever and you'll get what you need. I think the original issue was that, a lot of these Metropolitan pharmacies were getting an influx of foreign tourists who were just taking the N right then and there on the street or hotel, and then some red flags started popping up in hospitals with a bunch of foreigners mysteriously dying in large numbers that created a diplomatic issue of sorts. That's my understanding.

For real?
Yes
 
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