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feys

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Jan 19, 2024
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...Butt Stuff being rectal route of administration.

It could benefit someone to know the fruits of my research into Sodium Pentobarbital (barbiturate) and specifically getting it up from the other end. This post can also inform those considering the rectal route for other end-of-life substances. There are reasons for preferring a rectal over the oral route.

Where
Sodium pentobarbital is available for veterinary use in various cities of Peru, and allegedly in Mexico. The product in Peru, Halatal, comes in a sterile form, in 50ml bottles where each bottle contains 3.25g Sodium Pentobarbital intended for lethal injection. Some vet stores ask for a prescription, but many others are happy to sell several bottles without further questions. It seems they are currently not restocking them for the time being, but the situation may change. Either way, bottles have been available in February/March 2024. Their cost is 42-46 soles each. Powdered Nembutal appears in online markets, but it's not what I personally opted for. Bear in mind that in general, it is illegal to import Nembutal.

Dose
The amount for euthanasia recommended by Peaceful Pill Handbook (PPhB) is 2-10g. Some institutions practicing euthanasia rely on up to 15g per person. This is the highest amount used for euthanasia that I've come across online. Articles for humane animal euthanasia (sources: a, b) have actually been the most helpful because their recommendations are based on body mass. The consensus within that area for a peaceful death of an animal of any size is 0.086g/kg. It's likely that the upper range (8-15g) is most commonly used for heavier individuals, so calculating a required amount makes more sense if it's done by body mass. PPhB further states that in the vast majority of cases 6g is enough to lead to a peaceful death within 1-2 hours. If you are taking potentiating substances like alcohol or opioids, which increase the effectiveness of barbiturates, the lethal dose threshold is even lower.

Bio-availability
PPhB's recommendation for a lethal Pentobarbital dose doesn't specify the method of administration, but most people seem to prefer to take the drug orally. However, drugs received rectally tend to be absorbed better than those taken orally (c). They partially bypass the liver and so do not get eliminated to the same extent. According to Wikipedia oral bio-availability of Sodium Pentobarbital is 70-90%, and rectal 90%. Another source I found also seems to agree that a barbiturate (they used phenobarbital) mean relative rectal bio-availability was 90 percent (d). The animal euthanasia manual's recommendations assume that the method of administration is intravenous, which could be seen as 100% bio-available. Based on this it should be possible to calculate a pretty precise dose taking into account a person's body mass and the assumed 90% rectal absorption rate. It's worth rounding up to reduce the tiny risk that the amount may not, for some reason, be enough.

So for a 56kg healthy female taking Nembutal rectally (assuming 90% bio-availability), 5.34g is very likely to be lethal. 100mL of Halatal contains this amount. Combined with alcohol this should be pretty reliable.

Rectal infusion and anti-emetics
The benefit of taking Nembutal rectally, besides the increased bio-availability among other reasons, is not needing to worry about expelling the drug via emesis (vomiting). Nembutal is very bitter-tasting. If taken orally in amounts needed to achieve death, vomiting is possible. Taking an anti-emetic in these circumstances is not only recommended, it is essential. Considering that the pharmaceutical anti-emetics recommended by PPHB are not vegan, and have unpleasant side effects, some individuals would prefer an alternative option. Pepto-Bismol is vegan, but it is not in its primary function an anti-emetic. Ginger has been studied extensively, and it has been found to work better than placebo, as an anti-emetic and anti-nausea "drug". It has been found to be a good alternative to pharmaceuticals such as matoclopramide (e) – a drug recommended by PPhB. Whether ginger would be sufficiently strong to work with Nembutal is a matter of speculation. Having said that, even with only rectal infusion, it might be a good idea to take ginger just for the sake of reducing any accidental expulsion of the rectal content due to vomiting contractions, even if the stomach is empty.

Rectal retention of solutions
Based on ACAMAiD, a solution of 100mL is usually well-tolerated. Anything above 250mL and a person might have an urge to void their bowels (f). Solution volumes under 60-80mL are the "safest" and should be easily retained (g, h). I would recommend getting a large enough syringe to accommodate whatever dose you would calculate you need, and practising to retain water of that amount or slightly more. I have personally been able to retain 110mL easily once the initial discomfort goes away (a few minutes). I haven't tried to hold a larger volume. Make sure you lie on your left side (a) to allow the infusion to flow deeper into the colon and so reduce the risk of losing any liquids unintentionally.

Tools and Process
Here's what I have obtained and found to be necessary:
- 100ml (allowing slightly more) industrial syringe with insertion parts sold for animal feeding and plant care purposes (I only mention industrial syringe because I haven't been able to find a medical one that would be large enough)
- enema kit used to clear the bowels of feces to increase absorption of the drug (ACAMAiD recommends 4 hours between doing an enema and taking lethal drugs rectally)
- optional but recommended ginger (even having substances up your butt, such as heroin, can induce some nausea, so it could be that sodium pentobarbital is no different)
- alcohol (see barnivore.com for vegan brands, mostly for English-speaking countries)
- lube for bum hole (e.g. coconut oil)

One way to go about this process would be in this order:
0. fasting is a good idea, about 8 hours before taking the drug via bum (ACAMAiD)
1. enema 4 hours before drug
2. ginger juice shot (with a little grape or apple juice) 1-2 hours before (B6 vitamin also helps with nausea so you could take it with the ginger)
3. alcohol taken orally 30 minutes before
4. drug infusion

Sleep would follow within minutes, death normally occurs within 1 or 2 hours through CNS depression (stopping to breathe).

A friend of mine will have access to my account on here and might come to tell the story after my departure…

Sources:
(a) https://humanepro.org/sites/default/files/documents/euthanasia-reference-manual.pdf
(b) https://www.cliniciansbrief.com/article/euthanasia-protocols
(c) https://cdn.ps.emap.com/wp-content/...rug-administration-in-adults-how-when-why.pdf
(d) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1060028089023007-806
(e) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073360/
(f) https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s40138-023-00258-3.pdf
(g) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6805701/
(h):
https://enclarapharmacia.com/palliative-pearls/approach-to-rectal-administration-a-refresher
 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
348
I didn't know even this had a process. I thought..it's easy peasy. Just drink and fall asleep... forever!
 
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LunarLight

i'm a loser, a failure
Apr 3, 2024
600
Very informative. Thanks.
 
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rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
483
Too much liquid to be administered rectally, only applicates if you would find N powder.
 
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Esokabat

Student
Apr 22, 2024
166
Has anyone else done or knows of anyone who has done rectal administration? Based on some other reports here, I don't believe I would be able to drink N due to its taste. I have done 5MEO-DMT rectally and the first few minutes, I had to control the muscles in order to stop the urge of emptying. What if someone passes out and empties the bowels before full absorbtion? With 5MEO-DMT, boofing definitely worked, I completely passed out, and after an unknown amount of time, I found myself in the presence of a thousands sun, the power of a nuclear reactor and I am inside it. It was one of the most notable experience of my life. But the 5MeO molecule is so potent that I only needeD about 1 ml water. Even with 1 ml, I had the urge to empty bowels. I wonder how 10 ml would work.
 
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deadinsidex2

Getting the hell out of here
Jan 30, 2024
59
Too much liquid to be administered rectally, only applicates if you would find N powder.
What about the inmates execution reports case alleging that the pentobarbital lethal injection given to them supposedly caused a painful death due to lungs filling with fluid (pulmonary oedema) which should be a symptom of barbital but what went wrong there is it just cuz somebody didn't do it right?!!
 
rotciv

rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
483
What about the inmates execution reports case alleging that the pentobarbital lethal injection given to them supposedly caused a painful death due to lungs filling with fluid (pulmonary oedema) which should be a symptom of barbital but what went wrong there is it just cuz somebody didn't do it right?!!

I don't know nothing about that.
 
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Esokabat

Student
Apr 22, 2024
166
What about the inmates execution reports case alleging that the pentobarbital lethal injection given to them supposedly caused a painful death due to lungs filling with fluid (pulmonary oedema) which should be a symptom of barbital but what went wrong there is it just cuz somebody didn't do it right?!!
How does that relate to the topic of of this thread, the topic of boofing?
 
sussshiroll

sussshiroll

Student
Mar 17, 2023
105
Good to see this new methods, I appreciate the research that goes into.
But i laughed at first im not gonna lie...
 
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Esokabat

Student
Apr 22, 2024
166
...Butt Stuff being rectal route of administration.

It could benefit someone to know the fruits of my research into Sodium Pentobarbital (barbiturate) and specifically getting it up from the other end. This post can also inform those considering the rectal route for other end-of-life substances. There are reasons for preferring a rectal over the oral route.

Where
Sodium pentobarbital is available for veterinary use in various cities of Peru, and allegedly in Mexico. The product in Peru, Halatal, comes in a sterile form, in 50ml bottles where each bottle contains 3.25g Sodium Pentobarbital intended for lethal injection. Some vet stores ask for a prescription, but many others are happy to sell several bottles without further questions. It seems they are currently not restocking them for the time being, but the situation may change. Either way, bottles have been available in February/March 2024. Their cost is 42-46 soles each. Powdered Nembutal appears in online markets, but it's not what I personally opted for. Bear in mind that in general, it is illegal to import Nembutal.

Dose
The amount for euthanasia recommended by Peaceful Pill Handbook (PPhB) is 2-10g. Some institutions practicing euthanasia rely on up to 15g per person. This is the highest amount used for euthanasia that I've come across online. Articles for humane animal euthanasia (sources: a, b) have actually been the most helpful because their recommendations are based on body mass. The consensus within that area for a peaceful death of an animal of any size is 0.086g/kg. It's likely that the upper range (8-15g) is most commonly used for heavier individuals, so calculating a required amount makes more sense if it's done by body mass. PPhB further states that in the vast majority of cases 6g is enough to lead to a peaceful death within 1-2 hours. If you are taking potentiating substances like alcohol or opioids, which increase the effectiveness of barbiturates, the lethal dose threshold is even lower.

Bio-availability
PPhB's recommendation for a lethal Pentobarbital dose doesn't specify the method of administration, but most people seem to prefer to take the drug orally. However, drugs received rectally tend to be absorbed better than those taken orally (c). They partially bypass the liver and so do not get eliminated to the same extent. According to Wikipedia oral bio-availability of Sodium Pentobarbital is 70-90%, and rectal 90%. Another source I found also seems to agree that a barbiturate (they used phenobarbital) mean relative rectal bio-availability was 90 percent (d). The animal euthanasia manual's recommendations assume that the method of administration is intravenous, which could be seen as 100% bio-available. Based on this it should be possible to calculate a pretty precise dose taking into account a person's body mass and the assumed 90% rectal absorption rate. It's worth rounding up to reduce the tiny risk that the amount may not, for some reason, be enough.

So for a 56kg healthy female taking Nembutal rectally (assuming 90% bio-availability), 5.34g is very likely to be lethal. 100mL of Halatal contains this amount. Combined with alcohol this should be pretty reliable.

Rectal infusion and anti-emetics
The benefit of taking Nembutal rectally, besides the increased bio-availability among other reasons, is not needing to worry about expelling the drug via emesis (vomiting). Nembutal is very bitter-tasting. If taken orally in amounts needed to achieve death, vomiting is possible. Taking an anti-emetic in these circumstances is not only recommended, it is essential. Considering that the pharmaceutical anti-emetics recommended by PPHB are not vegan, and have unpleasant side effects, some individuals would prefer an alternative option. Pepto-Bismol is vegan, but it is not in its primary function an anti-emetic. Ginger has been studied extensively, and it has been found to work better than placebo, as an anti-emetic and anti-nausea "drug". It has been found to be a good alternative to pharmaceuticals such as matoclopramide (e) – a drug recommended by PPhB. Whether ginger would be sufficiently strong to work with Nembutal is a matter of speculation. Having said that, even with only rectal infusion, it might be a good idea to take ginger just for the sake of reducing any accidental expulsion of the rectal content due to vomiting contractions, even if the stomach is empty.

Rectal retention of solutions
Based on ACAMAiD, a solution of 100mL is usually well-tolerated. Anything above 250mL and a person might have an urge to void their bowels (f). Solution volumes under 60-80mL are the "safest" and should be easily retained (g, h). I would recommend getting a large enough syringe to accommodate whatever dose you would calculate you need, and practising to retain water of that amount or slightly more. I have personally been able to retain 110mL easily once the initial discomfort goes away (a few minutes). I haven't tried to hold a larger volume. Make sure you lie on your left side (a) to allow the infusion to flow deeper into the colon and so reduce the risk of losing any liquids unintentionally.

Tools and Process
Here's what I have obtained and found to be necessary:
- 100ml (allowing slightly more) industrial syringe with insertion parts sold for animal feeding and plant care purposes (I only mention industrial syringe because I haven't been able to find a medical one that would be large enough)
- enema kit used to clear the bowels of feces to increase absorption of the drug (ACAMAiD recommends 4 hours between doing an enema and taking lethal drugs rectally)
- optional but recommended ginger (even having substances up your butt, such as heroin, can induce some nausea, so it could be that sodium pentobarbital is no different)
- alcohol (see barnivore.com for vegan brands, mostly for English-speaking countries)
- lube for bum hole (e.g. coconut oil)

One way to go about this process would be in this order:
0. fasting is a good idea, about 8 hours before taking the drug via bum (ACAMAiD)
1. enema 4 hours before drug
2. ginger juice shot (with a little grape or apple juice) 1-2 hours before (B6 vitamin also helps with nausea so you could take it with the ginger)
3. alcohol taken orally 30 minutes before
4. drug infusion

Sleep would follow within minutes, death normally occurs within 1 or 2 hours through CNS depression (stopping to breathe).

A friend of mine will have access to my account on here and might come to tell the story after my departure…

Sources:
(a) https://humanepro.org/sites/default/files/documents/euthanasia-reference-manual.pdf
(b) https://www.cliniciansbrief.com/article/euthanasia-protocols
(c) https://cdn.ps.emap.com/wp-content/...rug-administration-in-adults-how-when-why.pdf
(d) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1060028089023007-806
(e) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073360/
(f) https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s40138-023-00258-3.pdf
(g) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6805701/
(h):
https://enclarapharmacia.com/palliative-pearls/approach-to-rectal-administration-a-refresher
Can you please share where you bought the industrial syringe and the related assecories? Also, when you say you were able to hold 110 ml, was this water or high percentage alcohol? I think it might worth testing with alcohol.
 
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DarknessAndDespair

Member
Mar 26, 2023
49
Did you go to Perú to buy it? I am looking for a way to get it in Europe
 
Abyssal

Abyssal

Kill me
Nov 26, 2023
1,210
Oh thank goodness it's vegan friendly, and was so worried about the suicidal vegans.

Haha jk wtf is this thread. Don't get me wrong, this is informative sounding and I'm too lazy to fact check it, but idk how to feel about a member with 3 messages writing a method thread telling us about N (which is very hard to get) and butt stuff. Can't fight to voice in my head saying this is a really complex troll.
 
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Esokabat

Student
Apr 22, 2024
166
Oh thank goodness it's vegan friendly, and was so worried about the suicidal vegans.

Haha jk wtf is this thread. Don't get me wrong, this is informative sounding and I'm too lazy to fact check it, but idk how to feel about a member with 3 messages writing a method thread telling us about N (which is very hard to get) and butt stuff. Can't fight to voice in my head saying this is a really complex troll.
I am not OP and I am not vegan (in fact I eat animal based and I also don't understand what someone dietery preferences have to be included here) but as far as the boofing method, it is an absolute valid method of adminstering drugs and medications. You show your ignorance as you don't know that most women worldwide who does HRT administer the oral progresterone softgel rectally. Why? It has higher absorbtion rate that way and less side effects. It has also been shown that oral estorgen tablets have a higher absorbtion rate either rectally or vaginally, and in fact, many scientific pregnancy trials used oral estrogen tablets adminsitered vaginally, and there were more pregnancies that way than the oral adminstration of the same tablet. In addition, if you go on drug forums on Reddit, you will find that many people administer drugs rectally (search for the word "boof") because it is safer, higher absorbtion, and less chance of vomiting or side effects. For example some people boof 5-MEO-DMT because smoking it it too harsh for their lungs and boofing reduces the chance of vomiting while unconcious. Now, if you consider that N (which is still available) tastes horrible, and many people failed CTB because they were not able to drink 200 ml of a horrible tasting chemical substance, I think boofing is a very good topic to discuss and more people should be talking about it.
 
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Abyssal

Kill me
Nov 26, 2023
1,210
I am not OP and I am not vegan (in fact I eat animal based and I also don't understand what someone dietery preferences have to be included here) but as far as the boofing method, it is an absolute valid method of adminstering drugs and medications. You show your ignorance as you don't know that most women worldwide who does HRT administer the oral progresterone softgel rectally. Why? It has higher absorbtion rate that way and less side effects. It has also been shown that oral estorgen tablets have a higher absorbtion rate either rectally or vaginally, and in fact, many scientific pregnancy trials used oral estrogen tablets adminsitered vaginally, and there were more pregnancies that way than the oral adminstration of the same tablet. In addition, if you go on drug forums on Reddit, you will find that many people administer drugs rectally (search for the word "boof") because it is safer, higher absorbtion, and less chance of vomiting or side effects. For example some people boof 5-MEO-DMT because smoking it it too harsh for their lungs and boofing reduces the chance of vomiting while unconcious. Now, if you consider that N (which is still available) tastes horrible, and many people failed CTB because they were not able to drink 200 ml of a horrible tasting chemical substance, I think boofing is a very good topic to discuss and more people should be talking about it.
Okay cool, doesn't change the fact that anybody going through the trouble of getting their hands on N is not going to fuck with accepted format after spending all that time getting it. Maybe if this worked with SN (which it doesn't as per the other anal thread from today Jesus Christ why are there two) it would be of any use.

Basically, even if OP is telling the truth and this does work, it's absolutely useless.

Please stop shoving stuff up your asses and certainly stop trying to promote shoving stuff up your asses..
 
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Esokabat

Student
Apr 22, 2024
166
Okay cool, doesn't change the fact that anybody going through the trouble of getting their hands on N is not going to fuck with accepted format after spending all that time getting it. Maybe if this worked with SN (which it doesn't as per the other anal thread from today Jesus Christ why are there two) it would be of any use.

Basically, even if OP is telling the truth and this does work, it's absolutely useless.

Please stop shoving stuff up your asses and certainly stop trying to promote shoving stuff up your asses..
Tell that to the millions of women who administer progresterone as part of their HRT. If you think what millions of women are doing worldwide is somehow wrong, you have big issues. Tell that also to the thousands of women who administer estrogen this way to get pregnant. Apparently according to you, almost all age groups of adult women (20-30 tryjng to get pregnant, 30-40-50-60-70-80 trying not to lose their bone mass among other things, are all doing somehting wrong because where your brains goes when you think of "asses". Isn't it possible that the problem is not the millions of women but you? Why is butt or ass triggering for you? You don't have one? Too much watching porn? There must be something why you react like an immature teenage boy
 
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Abyssal

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Tell that to the millions of women who administer progresterone as part of their HRT. If you think what millions of women are doing worldwide is somehow wrong, you have big issues. Tell that also to the thousands of women who administer estrogen this way to get pregnant. Apparently according to you, almost all age groups of adult women (20-30 tryjng to get pregnant, 30-40-50-60-70-80 trying not to lose their bone mass among other things, are all doing somehting wrong because where your brains goes when you think of "asses". Isn't it possible that the problem is not the millions of women but you? Why is butt or ass triggering for you? You don't have one? Too much watching porn? There must be something why you react like an immature teenage boy
Dude this is a suicide forum, I might act like an asshole but I'm really just trying to stop people from doing dumb shit and perhaps ending up hurt or throwing their money down the drain.

We are all in pain here and we all come here for a reason, some of us will act impulsively and many have gotten injured doing just that. If you want to shove N up your ass I won't stop you (SN I'll definitely try because I don't want you doing something you regret). Im blocking you to end this nonsense, but please remember where you are and what kind of people are on here before you go around throwing insults.
 
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Esokabat

Student
Apr 22, 2024
166
This is a research discussion of N absorbtion and related options. If you don't like discussions about research into different methodology, just skip this thread
 
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rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
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boofing is a very good route of administration but only works for small amounts of liquid or supository.
 
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wsx-rt

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Apr 17, 2024
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Did you go to Perú to buy it? I am looking for a way to get it in Europe
Hello, please tell me, have you found a way to buy pentobarbital other than in Peru? Because I'm already tired of searching, I looked through so much information, sites, I came across so many scammers, how are you doing with this? I'm from Eastern Europe, is it possible to buy it somewhere here, did you find out? Thanks for the answer.
 

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