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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
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Maybe my wording was a little extreme but I still don't think it's enough to just suggest contraception because obviously a lot of people (at the least the ones who didn't want kids yet still had them anyway), would have gone with that instead if they could have. People come up with pathetic excuses all the time not to use contraception like "it doesn't feel good to use it" or whatever but whatever the case, people still continue to get dragged into the world thanks to the shitty impulses and instincts that have predominated biology for billions of years.

Maybe I got overzealous in thinking that people here want to actually be part of the solution instead of pointing fingers and doing nothing else. There's really nothing wrong with that because it makes sense for many to put their own suffering first. I obviously did not mean to specifically target anyone here who believes in anti natalism. I also never though anyone here might actually believe in genocide, just that it can be interpreted that way by the same weak-willed people that make our lives miserable and they will probably use it as an excuse to make it even worse if they can. I also did not mean to make this site as a whole less of a safe space so for that I apologize if anyone really felt that way.

Maybe it's because I live in California but a lot of this hateful rhetoric against parents actually is pretty common around me so maybe that's why I'm sick of the way it's so commonly told. Most of the people I know in real life spewing hatred towards all parents aren't even anti natalist, they're just hypocrites complaining about how their parents' generation didn't do enough to provide for them as a whole when many people around my generation are still being just as selfish and excusing it by simply saying they should do something and then not really doing anything. I might have confused those people giving the same types of arguments for the ones I see here even if the people themselves are dissimilar. For this I apologize as well. If anything, these assholes I know who also hate their parents actually tend to still end up being pro-life (our definition of it) because they think it's cool to pretend to care about suicidal people when really they'd rather you die than call them on their bullshit.

When countries develop, their birth rates actually do decline because more and more people begin to realize they don't need to produce a future victim just to feel fulfilled. Unfortunately no amount of educating rationality and logic will be enough to fully eradicate this plight. I still think this does tie back to dna being the real issue here but I'm a hypocrite myself because I really have no answer for this. I really wish we could actually mobilize to do more than just complain at the wind and hope it changes but another reason I got so sick of seeing the cliche anti-natalist rhetoric from this site is because it eventually just gave me a breeding kink due to me being such a contrarian idiot and I hate that about myself more than anyone else.
 
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sorryforthat

Member
Oct 22, 2021
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Getting a baby means you understand that your kid will suffer guaranteed.
They know it. And they get off on it.
They probably get horny thinking about causing this guaranteed suffering to a innocent soul. At least its not directly killing someone so it doesn't look obvious. It's the sneaky silent way of fucking up another life and enjoying it legally.

Not only life brings sufferings in itself but death is the epitome of suffering.

So we can all agree parents are sadistic murderers? I would even go so far and say parents are worse than child rapers and molesters and all sorts of pedophiles.

Like people don't dwelve in this argument enough.
You are blinded by media and other noise. Parents are dangerous individuals.
YOU are exactly right about that. Many of parents are stupid and selfish and They cause extreme suffer of their kids because of their foolishness and selfishness.
 
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Nolife33

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Nov 6, 2021
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My parents are the kindest people you will ever meet, so I don't agree with you. They keep me going~!
 
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mlha

mlha

Ex falso quodlibet
Nov 7, 2021
216
My parents are the kindest people you will ever meet, so I don't agree with you. They keep me going~!
That's laudable. Yet if they didn't have you, you wouldn't end up on a forum like this. So is it moral taking the risk that a child can suffer?
 
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sadbadpsychogirl

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May 29, 2020
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i honestly don't think most of them know any better. like they don't think ahead or something...
 
KayKay

KayKay

Member
Aug 12, 2021
32
That is not good enough. Kids are not disposable toys. They are living, breathing human beings with their own thoughts and feelings who will grow up into jaded, miserable adults. "I tried my best" is the go to excuse for abusive and negligent parents everywhere.
I hear ya. And I agree. Which is why I'm trying to break that cycle with my own beautiful babies.

But - me forgiving you parents for behind shit, is not for them. It for me.

I can continue to be angry and bitter twisted about their failings every day of my life.

Or- I can be angry and disappointed in them AND I can recognise they did their best. Even if it want good enough. I can find my humanity and let some of my rage go. Which makes my life easier.

And - I hope my own kids may afford me that compassion some day when I inevitably fail them by dying
 
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