Discussion Afterlife

[21Neberg]

Though I want the 'nothingness', I do feel very curious asto how people around me would respond.

 

[Roy King]

Anything as long as it hasn't any nervous system!

 

[bigj75]

I want to be reincarnated as a dog. But Live a good life.

 

[bigj75]

I want to be reincarnated as a dog. But Live a good life.

 

[JWL]

I want to be reincarnated as a dog. But Live a good life.

Presumably not in China or S. Korea..

 

[JWL]

I like this tbh. I'd only tinkered with the concept before but someone on this site mentioned something the other day that got me thinking so I started reading more into it online. If you have any recommendations website or book wise please share, I'd be very interested :-)

Sorry, but for me now it's just a natural part of life and part of my belief system, so it's hard to remember my reading list. I did study it deeply when I was younger, but no idea what books I read, but pretty much whatever was out there. I remember a book by the actress Shirley McClaine 'Out on a Limb' that was readable and also books by Dr Raymond Moody on past life regression/reincarnation.

 

[NoChoice]

what would you prefer to happen after you die? I hope to become a ghost, honestly. And I like to believe there's some sort of afterlife, where you have no hurt, or sadness, just eurphoria.

Well I was never religious or even spiritual, and not because I didn't study them or wasn't exposed to that but because I am science based, unbiased and driven to the truth and what is objective in reality (AKA boring and somehwat nihilistic) BUT as an avid psychonaut before my tradgic brain damage incident, I experimented with a lot of psychedelics. One in particular, DMT, completely changed my view on the possibility of other dimensions and even the afterlife. I am not mentally well enough to write as much as I know about this or to back it up with much other than anecdotal experience, although theories and evidence about this do exist, basically you smoke the stuff and you are SHOT out of your body into a place that is outside of anything you have ever experienced in your entire life. These words mean nothing and cannot possibly describe it, because it is impossible to describe by definition. You are pure energy but you can hear and see and you feel the presence of other entities, it is the most beautiful place and it is for the most part very peaceful. The oddest thing is that it feels like "going home" it is so oddly familiar like the most intense feeling of dejavu, almost like you have been there so many times and when you come back you feel like life is something alein and "that place" is the real reality. Also, DMT is proven to release from multiple organs throughout the body during death in copious amounts.. this is no coincedence I believe. I think this offers the most plausible and scientifically legitimate theory for the possibility of an afterlife. I would reccomend doing your own research on this as my damaged brain cannot do this incredible experience justice. "The spirit molecule" documentary would be a good place to start. So again, I am pretty nihilistic and scientific and non religious but when studying and experiencing DMT I fully believe there is at least a possibility of an afterlife after experiencing what cannot be described as anything other than an alternate dimension.

 

[JWL]

I like this tbh. I'd only tinkered with the concept before but someone on this site mentioned something the other day that got me thinking so I started reading more into it online. If you have any recommendations website or book wise please share, I'd be very interested :-)

This YouTube documentary is one I found fascinating. At around 0:30 the little boy talks about waiting in the 'other world' to be reincarnated and as the minutes counted down to his re-entry into another life he says words to the effect: "And then I fell through a hole into you [mum]". To me, that has always been a perfect image of the moment of re-incarnation. From the real world you fall through a hole into your mum's womb and your earth incarnation begins again.

 

[14s5dex]

What I desire is nothingness; where you can't feel anything. It's like being asleep, where you're unaware of your consciousness, but forever. I don't know what I "believe" in, I'm an atheist but I'm somewhat conflicted, I just hope there are no actual deities/a god to send me to some awful place, I've already suffered enough.

 

[NoChoice]

What I desire is nothingness; where you can't feel anything. It's like being asleep, where you're unaware of your consciousness, but forever. I don't know what I "believe" in, I'm an atheist but I'm somewhat conflicted, I just hope there are no actual deities/a god to send me to some awful place, I've already suffered enough.

nothingness seems decently likely but I wouldn't say probable... a deity sending you to an awful place is I would say 0% chance, nothing in science or nature suggests that at all, its a completely man made belief based on nothing but an idea. BUT if you were a terrible person in life or a good person in life, laws of karma may treat you accordingly, but not forever. I like to think it is not nothingness forever, because good experiences do exist, I think if you have suffered you will have better luck in the next state of being if it exists, whatever it may be.

 

[JWL]

What I desire is nothingness; where you can't feel anything. It's like being asleep, where you're unaware of your consciousness, but forever. I don't know what I "believe" in, I'm an atheist but I'm somewhat conflicted, I just hope there are no actual deities/a god to send me to some awful place, I've already suffered enough.

If it's any comfort NO-one will 'send' you anywhere. We decide ourselves.

That might not make a whole lot of sense whilst we're locked into this body, but once released into a hugely wider perspective, it does make sense. It's the only really just way. We drive our own lives, and get all the advantages, but also negative consequences of this.

In a sense, YOU are the deity, since you are part of the whole of creation, just as much as your arms or feet or fingers are an integral part of the whole physical body. Your body is not likely to condemn your left leg to permanent Hell because you did over 10 seconds in the 100 metres race. All parts will just (hopefully) learn the lesson and aim to do better next time.

The Beatles expressed this concept quite well back in 1967

I am he
As you are he
As you are me
And we are all together

 

[Vero]

Your soul moves on to a different dimension.

 

[clover___]

I expect oblivion

 

[KnightBlade]

I expect oblivion

Took the words right out of my mouth. I want to cease to exist — the idea of agonizing over my poor decisions made on the mortal plane for eternity is unfathomable torture.

 

[DrownedOctopus]

I'd like for everything to just stop.
I don't want a personal heaven. I don't want to go into an afterlife or a next life or anything. I just want everything about me to not exit anymore.

 

[GeorgeJL]

From my extensive research yes there is an afterlife.

 

[maka]

I lowkey hope in the personalized bliss theory where you are surrounded by things and people that you love. An eternity of listening to music and sleeping surrounded by dogs and cats would be my "heaven."
However in my opinion it's more sensible to imagine just a cycle where we are born again and again, maybe in another dimension, maybe during a different era, maybe in a world where history played out differently. We'll never know until we get there.
I just can't imagine what it feels like to not exist.

 

[JWL]

I expect oblivion

What you 'expect' you'll get.

Until you wake up...

 

[Conflicted Cat]

A peaceful afterlife. Not like heaven and hell, where good goes to good place and bad goes to bad. Just a place where everyone gathers, regardless of what they did, and everyone gets to feel at peace. Part of what's keeping from offing myself, while yeah not having a proper way to do so, also fear of reincarnation, or nothingness.

I've thought long and hard about this, and it seems that every theory I think up, whether it be afterlife, reincarnation, or nothingness, doesn't make sense in one way or another.

 

[Alucard]

NOTHINGNESS

"Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. All sensation and consciousness ends with death and therefore in death there is neither pleasure nor pain." Epicurus

Only a living person can suffer, including the fear of death.

 

[JWL]

NOTHINGNESS

"Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. All sensation and consciousness ends with death and therefore in death there is neither pleasure nor pain." Epicurus

Yeah, right. What did HE know...??

 

[Vero]

A great article on afterlife for people that committed suicide. Such a positive view unlike other opinions.

4. When a Loved One Passes On by Suicide - Soul Proof

Here is evidence no one dies and 10 things you must know to deal with the death of a loved one by suicide by Dr. Mark Pitstick...

www.soulproof.com

 

[JWL]

What a brilliant web site. It won't fit some or many, but almost all the things I've ever believed are there (so it must be true, lol...). Thanks for posting that.

 

[Rex2019]

what would you prefer to happen after you die? I hope to become a ghost, honestly. And I like to believe there's some sort of afterlife, where you have no hurt, or sadness, just eurphoria.

i think it will be like going to sleep. You don't exist anymore.

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

No one really knows what happens after death. I hope it's kind of like how heaven is portrayed on the show "Supernatural" where everyone gets their own heaven. People laughed at me years ago when i said what if when you die whatever you looked like and was wearing is how you will look in the afterlife. Like the show "being human" shows.

 

[Rex2019]

A great article on afterlife for people that committed suicide. Such a positive view unlike other opinions.

4. When a Loved One Passes On by Suicide - Soul Proof

Here is evidence no one dies and 10 things you must know to deal with the death of a loved one by suicide by Dr. Mark Pitstick...

www.soulproof.com

I really wish there wasn't so much stigma around suicide. If society did not judge surviving family so harshly, maybe people would have been more supportive of suicide since they won't feel so guilty or ashamed.

 

[Lisa]

What kind of ghost? Like this?
Seriously, though. I personally do believe in something. If you don't you'll have to make the journey and discovery yourself. Wherever I go from here at least I believe it isn't going to be a black void. I see it as going from 2D to 4D, having 100% of 'ME' and not just the 1% that is allowed us here. Sounds good to me.

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I agree. Any reason you feel this way? Instinct? Dreams? Experiences? Research?

 

[JWL]

. Not that I think your soul dies or anything I just don't think that law of physics is a good explanation

I'm sorry. I did ask God to explain it for me, but I caught him on a Sunday and you know what a moody bugger he is on Sundays...

I'm sorry to say this but I am absolutely convinced that reincarnation is real.

Why are you sorry to say this? Be happy about it. It's a huge part of the cosmic puzzle.

I agree. Any reason you feel this way? Instinct? Dreams? Experiences? Research?

All of those.

No one really knows what happens after death.

Or...perhaps some people do, but other people don't accept what they say.

I want to be reincarnated as a dog. But Live a good life.

Fetch!

 

[NOT]

I'm sorry. I did ask God to explain it for me, but I caught him on a Sunday and you know what a moody bugger he is on Sundays...

 

[Redt2go]

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