66% success of Sodium Nitrite

[freelifexit]

There is an article about Evaluation of Sodium Nitrite for mass euthanasia of commercial pigs:

Of the feed treatment groups, 53 of 80 pigs (66%) were euthanized by SN. Each feed treatment resulted in a range of 50-80% mortality regardless of treatment. 63% of the pigs vomited during the feed treatment. Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight with a range of 0.20 to 1.09 g of SN per kg.

General timeline of clinical signs:
•0-45 minutes: good feed intake
•45-75 minutes: stop eating and huddle
•75 minutes: start to observe vomiting. Progresses to ataxia and palor and then lateral recumbency.
•90 minutes: earliest mortality. Most were 90-180 minutes.

https://porkcheckoff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/20-118-LOWER-final-rpt.pdf

it looks like Russian roulette, only 50 to 80 percent chances of dying

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

There is an article about Evaluation of Sodium Nitrite for mass euthanasia of commercial pigs:

Of the feed treatment groups, 53 of 80 pigs (66%) were euthanized by SN. Each feed treatment resulted in a range of 50-80% mortality regardless of treatment. 63% of the pigs vomited during the feed treatment. Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight with a range of 0.20 to 1.09 g of SN per kg.

General timeline of clinical signs:
•0-45 minutes: good feed intake
•45-75 minutes: stop eating and huddle
•75 minutes: start to observe vomiting. Progresses to ataxia and palor and then lateral recumbency.
•90 minutes: earliest mortality. Most were 90-180 minutes.

https://porkcheckoff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/20-118-LOWER-final-rpt.pdf

it looks like Russian roulette, only 50 to 80 percent chances of dying

It's probably cause it's mixed with food? That's why i think fasting is very important before.

If i fast then take only SN with water it would be a higher %

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

Are you serious?

 

[HiImPaul]

It's probably cause it's mixed with food? That's why i think fasting is very important before.

If i fast then take only SN with water it would be a higher %

Yeah the pigs aren't exactly following the 48hour guide

 

[Dot]

There is an article about Evaluation of Sodium Nitrite for mass euthanasia of commercial pigs:

Of the feed treatment groups, 53 of 80 pigs (66%) were euthanized by SN. Each feed treatment resulted in a range of 50-80% mortality regardless of treatment. 63% of the pigs vomited during the feed treatment. Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight with a range of 0.20 to 1.09 g of SN per kg.

General timeline of clinical signs:
•0-45 minutes: good feed intake
•45-75 minutes: stop eating and huddle
•75 minutes: start to observe vomiting. Progresses to ataxia and palor and then lateral recumbency.
•90 minutes: earliest mortality. Most were 90-180 minutes.

https://porkcheckoff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/20-118-LOWER-final-rpt.pdf

it looks like Russian roulette, only 50 to 80 percent chances of dying

Diffrnt animl. Diffrnt procss.

 

[freelifexit]

Are you serious?

the data is scary, I agree

 

[9kevinngannou]

We're not pigs though. Hard to see how you'd fail if you take AE and a good amount of SN, like 20g or so. If no one interrupts you how would that result in any other way then physical death?

 

[marinekiwi]

Given the pigs are not exactly following Stan's guide or PPH procedures, I find that SN is actually pretty damn good at killing. 66% lethality by just taking SN with no prep whatsoever is pretty amazing. I bet most other poisons are much less efficient than this if fasting is not involved.
The lethality rate would most likely skyrocket if proper method is followed.

 

[freelifexit]

It's probably cause it's mixed with food? That's why i think fasting is very important before.

If i fast then take only SN with water it would be a higher %

agree with you,

pigs didn't drink SN with water: "Administration of sodium nitrite through the water did not achieve sufficient intake to induce mortality"

 

[Ch92921]

We are not pig, we are not monkey neither. We are homo sapien sapiens.

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

66% lethality by just taking SN with no prep whatsoever is pretty amazing.

Not just without prep, this is SN sprinkled in food .

 

[Greenberg]

There is an article about Evaluation of Sodium Nitrite for mass euthanasia of commercial pigs:

Of the feed treatment groups, 53 of 80 pigs (66%) were euthanized by SN. Each feed treatment resulted in a range of 50-80% mortality regardless of treatment. 63% of the pigs vomited during the feed treatment. Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight with a range of 0.20 to 1.09 g of SN per kg.

General timeline of clinical signs:
•0-45 minutes: good feed intake
•45-75 minutes: stop eating and huddle
•75 minutes: start to observe vomiting. Progresses to ataxia and palor and then lateral recumbency.
•90 minutes: earliest mortality. Most were 90-180 minutes.

https://porkcheckoff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/20-118-LOWER-final-rpt.pdf

it looks like Russian roulette, only 50 to 80 percent chances of dying

Excellent article! A pig's digestive system is similar to that of a human's. Thus, the mortality figures are loosely relatable to us.

 

[44nutz1977]

But following Stan's plan we would be getting SN into our bloodstream way WAY faster than a pig.

We would not be taking SN with food.
We are taking a large toxic shot of SN. Fast.

The only way to fail is surely by vomiting it all up which is unlikely if we follow the guide.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Following Stan's guide and giving yourself enough time would seem to ensure a near guaranteed success rate in ctb… let's say someone with a normal weight drinks 25g first, vomits some, then drinks another, and doesn't get help. How can they survive?

 

[marinekiwi]

Following Stan's guide and giving yourself enough time would seem to ensure a near guaranteed success rate in ctb… let's say someone with a normal weight drinks 25g first, vomits some, then drinks another, and doesn't get help. How can they survive?

In that scenario, survival probability is almost null I guess. Given the sn is of high purity that is.

 

[sandalphon]

Stop fear mongering. SN has almost 100 percent lethality if you follow the protocol and you're not found. I find this post incredibly intellectually dishonest.

 

[blueclover_.]

There is an article about Evaluation of Sodium Nitrite for mass euthanasia of commercial pigs:

Of the feed treatment groups, 53 of 80 pigs (66%) were euthanized by SN. Each feed treatment resulted in a range of 50-80% mortality regardless of treatment. 63% of the pigs vomited during the feed treatment. Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight with a range of 0.20 to 1.09 g of SN per kg.

General timeline of clinical signs:
•0-45 minutes: good feed intake
•45-75 minutes: stop eating and huddle
•75 minutes: start to observe vomiting. Progresses to ataxia and palor and then lateral recumbency.
•90 minutes: earliest mortality. Most were 90-180 minutes.

https://porkcheckoff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/20-118-LOWER-final-rpt.pdf

it looks like Russian roulette, only 50 to 80 percent chances of dying

The pigs took less than 1 gram lol

 

[freelifexit]

The pigs took less than 1 gram lol

Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight

 

[blueclover_.]

Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight

While feeding, and most of them still die. That's why you're supposed to fast and take a bunch of meds smarty.

 

[sandalphon]

People are not pigs, and those animals did not undergo the protocol DESIGNED FOR HUMANS. When followed, the PPH handbook and Stan's protocols are almost 100% lethal.

I don't know what your goal is in making this thread, but just stop.

 

[freelifexit]

I didn't want to confuse anyone, just wanted to share the article and hear your opinion. The article scared me a little, after the comments I felt calmer.
Thanks for your comments.

 

[grungeCat]

I read the article and I have to agree with the majority of comments. Pigs weren't following the Stan's SN regime so... I think I shouldn't say anything more.

 

[idencrisis]

Them pigs be having iron stomachs.

 

[Circles]

Not just without prep, this is SN sprinkled in food .

Fucking funny. Wow thank you for the laugh I needed that.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

the data is scary, I agree

No. It's actually not.

Stop fear mongering. SN has almost 100 percent lethality if you follow the protocol and you're not found. I find this post incredibly intellectually dishonest.

lol still haven't stopped. Still going on almost a year later.

 

[mojabaka]

Humans are not pigs

 

[freelifexit]

No. It's actually not.

lol still haven't stopped. Still going on almost a year later.

Thank you for your very important opinion)

 

[Hollowillow]

There is an article about Evaluation of Sodium Nitrite for mass euthanasia of commercial pigs:

Of the feed treatment groups, 53 of 80 pigs (66%) were euthanized by SN. Each feed treatment resulted in a range of 50-80% mortality regardless of treatment. 63% of the pigs vomited during the feed treatment. Pigs on averaged consumed 0.49 g of SN per kg of body weight with a range of 0.20 to 1.09 g of SN per kg.

General timeline of clinical signs:
•0-45 minutes: good feed intake
•45-75 minutes: stop eating and huddle
•75 minutes: start to observe vomiting. Progresses to ataxia and palor and then lateral recumbency.
•90 minutes: earliest mortality. Most were 90-180 minutes.

https://porkcheckoff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/20-118-LOWER-final-rpt.pdf

it looks like Russian roulette, only 50 to 80 percent chances of dying

Fuck. Thank you, king of worst case scenarios. It really annoys me when people are blindly positive.

Which death is accessible, good success, vomit free? Thank you

 

[emgrl]

Fuck. Thank you, king of worst case scenarios. It really annoys me when people are blindly positive.

Which death is accessible, good success, vomit free? Thank you

Read the whole thread hun… SN is successful, this study is like comparing apples with oranges when it comes to a human's CTB method.
I don't know why they'd do such a study, those poor pigs

 

[AliceTheGoon]

Did they get pre-cured meat out of it