feder

feder

I'm more scarred more scarred than my wrist is.
Apr 13, 2023
162
Do any of you guys feel that if you found your purpose in life or lets call it something you love to do, you would still want to ctb?
For me, always one of the main reasons was that I cant seem to find anything I enjoy enough to completely go into it. I don't have a purpose in this life. Its always been fascinating to me how people decide they want to be something and go all the way.
I feel pressured from my family as well, with questions like "What do you want to do with your life?" always scared ill do something and then regret it.
Feels like if I had a purpose I could commit to, everything would be better. Just living like this day in and day out is so exhausting.
 
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Darkover

Angelic
Jul 29, 2021
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my purpose is to full understand how computers work to have complete knowledge of everything including all biological machinery, mathematical formulas ect to fully explore everything mathematics can provide, i somewhat learn how computers fully work and became a programmer but then i got a brain injury and my life is now ruined, far better to be born knowing how computers work than having to learn it for yourself at a very slow speed decades in my case

"There's no escaping reason, no denying purpose, for as we both know, without purpose we would not exist. It is purpose that created us, purpose that connects us, purpose that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us; it is purpose that defines, purpose that binds us."
 
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plastic

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Jan 16, 2021
74
I honestly have no luck in my life. I had a strong will and desire and knowledge to do something sensational in my life. I'm a very creative person and I've done so many things that most people can't do if they had more life, but nothing comes of it. I've been doing it for almost 40 years and I don't move from the dead center. Most part of my life being followed by some damnation, like I'm playing a video game that's a demo version. Most people, if they had what I did, would probably live happily and contentedly and enjoy the fruits of their labor.I haven't hoped for anything for years now and actually, no matter how morbid it is, I'm longing for the day when I'll go to the forest and suffocate myself with a plastic bag, because even as a child I decided to end my life with that method.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
11,543
If I had a purpose (a goal) now and this purpose would ideally pay off, there would be no active CTB plans now. However CTB always was and will always be a legal option for me under certain circumstances.
 
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itsyourfault

Member
Jun 4, 2023
11
That's a big "if". Life has no meaning I also don't know anyone who said:"I want to be this and that", went all the way and succeeded. If you don't know them personally, don't trust them. Even if you find something that you like to do, you'll have to eventually drive it to socially unacceptable extremes for it to stay interesting , or find something else that you like for a while
 
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feder

I'm more scarred more scarred than my wrist is.
Apr 13, 2023
162
If I had a purpose (a goal) now and this purpose would ideally pay off, there would be no active CTB plans now. However CTB always was and will always be a legal option for me under certain circumstances.
I completely agree with ctb always being an option no matter what. Fells like so many of us lack purpose in life it's depressing af. It's also really hard to find one
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
9,883
I already have a purpose and yes- it's what's kept me going until now. It's been my crutch in life. My purpose is to be creative. It isn't what's kept me alive though- that has been a feeling of obligation to not upset my loved ones.

Anyhow- no- it isn't enough (for me anyhow.) You can still fail at your purpose in life! I've had modest success and I've been lucky in some ways. I've also worked bloody hard. But- yeah, I've been fortunate enough to be paid to do what I love for a while now... It's likely coming to an end now though and honestly- that can be devastating. ☹️

Bottomline is: it's complicated- you don't just find something you love in life, pursue it and everyone just automatically loves what you do and pays you shit loads to do it.

Most jobs are highly sought after. Especially creative jobs because they are so few and far between. There are even fewer permanent jobs- so- you will likely have to be comfortable with being freelance- which means job insecurity, no sick pay, no pension.

As to whether you even get the job- that's down to talent- and there will be people out there better than you- no matter how hard you try. Plus experience- which is hard to get at the start. Everyone will expect you to work for free initially- which you might not be able to do. People working in the Arts are ENORMOUSLY exploited. Even after you have worked for a while- people won't want to pay what stuff is worth.

So- then- you have to make difficult decisions- will you lower you standards to get the job done faster? Will you use sub standard materials? What if that causes your work to fail though? What if you get a reputation for producing sub standard work? It's upsetting too. People don't work in this industry without taking pride in what they do. Most creative people HATE it when they have to compromise and churn out crap.

OR- will you have to supplement your work with another job? It probably won't be a good job though- not now- because now you don't have experience in anything else. You've poured all your time (and heart) into your 'dream' job.

Just juggling the finances is tough as a freelancer. It's not just your creative job you're doing- you're having to promote yourself to find work, properly quoting for things you've never done before, (which I'm crap at- you don't want to price yourself out of the market but you need to survive!) sourcing materials, liasing with clients. Then you need to have a bash at accountancy and fill in yearly tax returns. Some people just simply don't want to wear so many hats.

Plus- most jobs aren't 'dream' jobs at the end of the day. Most of the time- you have to make compromises. I don't drive and my confidence goes to pieces when I work with other people- so, that kind of further limits opportunities for me. You have to make judgements on just HOW much you will do or give up to pursue your passion- unless you're lucky enough to have picked something that is in demand and pays well. I've known friends give up relationships, the chance of having a family, friendships, properties- all to pursue their dream job in the Arts. I don't know how many really believe it's worth it in the end.

For me though- I'm just not good enough- and not really willing to get good enough at certain aspects of the job- mostly finances to make it work. Of course- the next best thing is to continue doing it as a hobby. Creative people are pretty obsessive though. Generally- when we squash ourselves into non creative wage slave jobs- we just kind of wither- to the point where we're so beaten down- we don't have the heart to create anymore.

Plus- it's debatable but I'd say artistic people are especially prone to melancholy/depression and suidal thoughts- and action! Loads of Artists kill themselves.

It's debatable really. I think it must be awful to feel you have no purpose in life. It has been my saving grace till now. Still- having a passion that you can't realise- for whatever reason can also be agonizing. So- they're both pretty shitty situations to be in!
 
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feder

feder

I'm more scarred more scarred than my wrist is.
Apr 13, 2023
162
I already have a purpose and yes- it's what's kept me going until now. It's been my crutch in life. My purpose is to be creative. It isn't what's kept me alive though- that has been a feeling of obligation to not upset my loved ones.

Anyhow- no- it isn't enough (for me anyhow.) You can still fail at your purpose in life! I've had modest success and I've been lucky in some ways. I've also worked bloody hard. But- yeah, I've been fortunate enough to be paid to do what I love for a while now... It's likely coming to an end now though and honestly- that can be devastating. ☹️

Bottomline is: it's complicated- you don't just find something you love in life, pursue it and everyone just automatically loves what you do and pays you shit loads to do it.

Most jobs are highly sought after. Especially creative jobs because they are so few and far between. There are even fewer permanent jobs- so- you will likely have to be comfortable with being freelance- which means job insecurity, no sick pay, no pension.

As to whether you even get the job- that's down to talent- and there will be people out there better than you- no matter how hard you try. Plus experience- which is hard to get at the start. Everyone will expect you to work for free initially- which you might not be able to do. People working in the Arts are ENORMOUSLY exploited. Even after you have worked for a while- people won't want to pay what stuff is worth.

So- then- you have to make difficult decisions- will you lower you standards to get the job done faster? Will you use sub standard materials? What if that causes your work to fail though? What if you get a reputation for producing sub standard work? It's upsetting too. People don't work in this industry without taking pride in what they do. Most creative people HATE it when they have to compromise and churn out crap.

OR- will you have to supplement your work with another job? It probably won't be a good job though- not now- because now you don't have experience in anything else. You've poured all your time (and heart) into your 'dream' job.

Just juggling the finances is tough as a freelancer. It's not just your creative job you're doing- you're having to promote yourself to find work, properly quoting for things you've never done before, (which I'm crap at- you don't want to price yourself out of the market but you need to survive!) sourcing materials, liasing with clients. Then you need to have a bash at accountancy and fill in yearly tax returns. Some people just simply don't want to wear so many hats.

Plus- most jobs aren't 'dream' jobs at the end of the day. Most of the time- you have to make compromises. I don't drive and my confidence goes to pieces when I work with other people- so, that kind of further limits opportunities for me. You have to make judgements on just HOW much you will do or give up to pursue your passion- unless you're lucky enough to have picked something that is in demand and pays well. I've known friends give up relationships, the chance of having a family, friendships, properties- all to pursue their dream job in the Arts. I don't know how many really believe it's worth it in the end.

For me though- I'm just not good enough- and not really willing to get good enough at certain aspects of the job- mostly finances to make it work. Of course- the next best thing is to continue doing it as a hobby. Creative people are pretty obsessive though. Generally- when we squash ourselves into non creative wage slave jobs- we just kind of wither- to the point where we're so beaten down- we don't have the heart to create anymore.

Plus- it's debatable but I'd say artistic people are especially prone to melancholy/depression and suidal thoughts- and action! Loads of Artists kill themselves.

It's debatable really. I think it must be awful to feel you have no purpose in life. It has been my saving grace till now. Still- having a passion that you can't realise- for whatever reason can also be agonizing. So- they're both pretty shitty situations to be in!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience on this topic. I also lean towards the creative field more so a 9 to 5 seems like the worst option (even though I'm doing it right now). It's really nice to hear from someone with actual experience instead of just theory.
 
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leavingsoon99

I'm at peace... Finally.
Mar 16, 2023
722
If life had a purpose, sure I'd like to live it out. Or at least try. So far, if there is a purpose to life, it just seems that purpose is to suffer. And, personally, I can't accept that. I'd want to be separated from a creator who actually made me to torment me. It shows that it's twisted and unworthy of any kind of praise or worship. So, I guess... it'd depend on the purpose.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,938
There's no purpose to existing and there never could be, it's something completely meaningless, pointless and futile. Existing is just a process of slowly dying where we are destined for nothing but to decay from age and I personally don't desire existence, it's not for me, I just prefer the sound of nothingness.

And just the fact that in existence there is unlimited potential to suffer automatically means that not existing is always the preferable option for me, I just don't like being conscious and aware anyway, it's tiring. As long as I'm trapped here there will always be a need to ctb, wanting suicide is perfectly logical in this world.
 
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The Howling Void

Member
Dec 20, 2021
26
It's not so much a purpose. It's just not having the weight to carry around. I have a terrible future that I can't face. And it robs me of hope and happiness.
 
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unrest

Member
Jun 3, 2023
71
if my purpose was another person or animal that maybe i had to take care of, then maybe i could reconsider. but if it had anything to do with me, then probably not.
 
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Hyd999

Member
Sep 10, 2021
82
For me having a purpose helps. I started selling stuff on amazon years ago and it blew up so big that i have full time staff working for me now. So for me my purpose = my work. I genuinley love my job and think its fun. I have employees showing up every day so that gives me purpose to get out of bed in the morning.


After work is when my deamons come out. Even after having an awesome sales day and making alot of money and breaking so many sales records, my mind defaults to "what does it even matter". I feel i have no chance to find love so at the end of the day i am still on this site trying to gather every drop of motivation I can so i can finally have the courage to ctb
 
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Rabbit-

Rabbit-

🎼 Achilles Come Down
May 5, 2023
58
My purpose is to be a storyteller. I've always known this was the case, even when young, and my faith in that answer has never wavered once. Writing is at the very core of my heart. I want to publish many books that become well-beloved by others, even if they don't reach the point of fame.

However, I was born wrong and broken. I exist as an error, a mistake by the universe. Because of this, I'm not capable of achieving that dream. There are other external factors as well, but even if those went away, I still would not be able to accomplish it due to being innately broken.

Every year that goes by just makes it more apparent that it won't happen, like endless salt in a wound that cannot close. It makes me want to ctb very much. I've never wanted anything more. It really hurts. Even so, I can't let go of my hopeless wish and continue to try for it.
 
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feder

I'm more scarred more scarred than my wrist is.
Apr 13, 2023
162
My purpose is to be a storyteller. I've always known this was the case, even when young, and my faith in that answer has never wavered once. Writing is at the very core of my heart. I want to publish many books that become well-beloved by others, even if they don't reach the point of fame.

However, I was born wrong and broken. I exist as an error, a mistake by the universe. Because of this, I'm not capable of achieving that dream. There are other external factors as well, but even if those went away, I still would not be able to accomplish it due to being innately broken.

Every year that goes by just makes it more apparent that it won't happen, like endless salt in a wound that cannot close. It makes me want to ctb very much. I've never wanted anything more. It really hurts. Even so, I can't let go of my hopeless wish and continue to try for it.
Not being able to do the thing you love because of circumstances seems horrible. It's really sad how we live in such an unfair world. I hope you will find a way to achieve your dreams, regardless of what is holding you back right now. Or alternatively find a method and be free.
 
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clavicals

clavicals

тоска
Jun 4, 2023
37
I think it's something that would always be just under the surface but idk man.
I relies so much on my circumstances for me. I can't get away from them, I don't have friends for family and bc of how my brain is I lack the social skills and can't hold down a job. This means I'm not valuable to society.

I've lived in pretty severe poverty all my life. It's all I've known. Not too long ago I came into some money and I was able to buy things and upgrade my technology and some of my basic needs which almost instantly improved my health.
Upgrading technology meant I could work on passion projects that I've always wanted to get started in and it gave me a purpose for life that I didn't think I'd have.

I was always one of those people that thought "fuck money, I hate what it does to people you don't need it to be happy" and that vastly changed my perception. Imagine growing up like a normal kid where all these things I'm experiencing as a high point was just actually getting basic needs met.

I learned that money matters, which then, despite feeling more hopeful towards the future, left me feeling more hopeless because I know it's something that I can't maintain for myself. I'm rejected by society bc i don't have the skills to function within it. 80% of business is relationships and people. I'm also in burnout a lot so im not able to be consistent. Two of the most important things for profiting off your purpose.

TLDR my purpose makes life more bearable, but doesn't give me hope.
 
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Rabbit-

Rabbit-

🎼 Achilles Come Down
May 5, 2023
58
Not being able to do the thing you love because of circumstances seems horrible. It's really sad how we live in such an unfair world. I hope you will find a way to achieve your dreams, regardless of what is holding you back right now. Or alternatively find a method and be free.
It really is. Thank you very much for the well wishes- I hope so, too.
 
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Tobacco

Efilist. Possible promortalist.
Jan 14, 2023
196
I used to think that my purpose was to prove God's existence through rational argument.

Now I just wish to at least convince someone of not having kids.
 
jonghyun

jonghyun

trying to do well
May 6, 2023
95
I think my brain is just wired this way from birth. Purpose or not, ultimately, there is so much suffering in life that i have the view: its not worth suffering through the bad parts for the infrequent good parts. A purpose is a distraction. If i had something i felt i was meant to do in life, i would do it, but eventually, you don't escape your own mind unless you make the conscious choice to...
 
socio

socio

flirting with death.
Jun 11, 2023
17
Even if I did get a purpose, I can't deny that in my perspective - nothing matters. I will die one way or another.
 
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chloramine

Mage
Apr 18, 2022
505
Yes. I have things I want to do. I still want to ctb. It's still hard to function in any way. I think it helps with those things a bit, but. A reason to live doesn't erase a reason to die. It might offset, but it doesn't make it go away. Or at least it hasn't for me.
 
willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
2,941
I have goals in life, ones that help other people and thus would give me purpose. Yet they don't motivate me anymore. I see them in the sense of it being nice if I ever make it to them, but if I don't then so be it. It would be nice to make it to them but if I'm dead it won't matter anyway. Nothing can convince my altered brain chemistry to care.
 
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SunnyDay_NoSunshine

Member
Jun 11, 2023
36
I am still here only because I have a clear purpose.
I want to go as it has become impossible to further towards my purpose and it only is going the other way.
so in my case having purpose and still wanting to ctb is true
 
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I used to think that if I had a purpose I could go on but it's hard for me in a world like this, I feel like nothing makes sense anymore.
 
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enough of this

Specialist
Jun 4, 2023
382
I don't know. I DO feel purposeless, but I have some very uncomfortable physical conditions I really want to leave behind.
 
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kaleidoscopedreams

waste of space-space of waste
Jun 10, 2023
24
I don't think that I have a purpose as a human. Society says I do, says that I have to work in order to live & pay bills & feed myself. I have some talents that I wouldn't really call talents. I enjoy things in life that some people do for hobby's others make a "living". No one knows the why for anything, just the actions leading up to an event. Purpose to me is the people I have empathy for in my life, if I didn't have empathy I would have successfully completed cbt.
 
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MeltingBrain

Mage
May 29, 2023
580
Yes, lack of purpose is not the issue (at least not directly ) , failing health is .
 
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crimsonpool

hikikomori
May 15, 2023
94
to be honest i have a purpose probably more than one but its not enough,and a lot of things are barring me from fulfilling it anyways so it doesnt change anything for me
 
oh_no191

oh_no191

“Is it better to speak or to die?”
Jun 11, 2023
56
I probably have a purpose now but it seems hard to actually discover so for now I don't think it would make a difference
 
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AngelTears

AngelTears

Last Days
Jun 10, 2023
63
I've always thought my purpose was to spread feelings through music. But times like these, make me second guess. I've tried, I really have. But I now see that maybe, it has always been second place to fucking up my body enough to where suicide's the only sane option...
 

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