Discussion Would you put off CTB if you magically became a billionaire ? #21

[MeltingBrain]

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[FuneralCry]

No, nothing would ever make me see existence as being something desirable, I would only ever wish for permanent non existence, it isn't like those who no longer exist could ever have any use for money anyway, for me only the true relief of non existence is ideal as to die solves everything, death means permanent relief from all suffering and harm, existence was unnecessary in the first place.

 

[CW36]

Always good to get that ray of sunshine from FuneralCry. The reality is 99.999% would postpone indefinitely. Life is too good at the top. I don't believe anyone who says they'd CTB after becoming a billionaire. Money solves almost all problems and opens up a world of wonders.

 

[soonatpeace777888]

Probably for a month because of the jolt of excitement, but probably I would end up donating it and CTB within a year.

 

[Leeroy14R]

No matter how much I succeed, no matter if I acquire a large amount of currency, once a failure always a failure, and the only thing that is left that i can succeed at is suicide. But C'mon, we ain't talking about floppy disk here... We talking about billions, and I have mapped out in my 2 neural parsecs, the impossible scenario, where I to the professional moron has achieved such a myth. The concomitant of such probability would probably the endangerment of billions of people, and an accelerated death of the planet. It would be a very big injustice to humanity is i were in possession of billions. Not to mention that my special kind of idiocy will definitely affect the evolution of humanity on the novelty continuum. I don't even think I would want such a curse. The most logical undertaking in such a position will naturally be to help humanity, but I absolutely despise responsibility. I would rather be castrated, and have my organic conduit eviscerated than to be responsible for another human-being. Yeah so 1 billion dollars no, 1 trillion? yeah now we talking...

 

[MeltingBrain]

The reality is 99.999% would postpone indefinitely.

I bet this isn't true . Money is important, but not as important to people that they will take their life solely because of it (Except for a handful of people ) .
This table illustrates it very well (Financial problem is way down at 9%)-

Precipitating circumstances in the US, 2017[51]​
Categories			Percentage
Diagnosed mental problem		50%
Recent or upcoming crisis		31%
Intimate partner problem		27%
Physical health problem		21%
Alcohol problem		18%
Substance abuse (excluding alcohol)		18%
Argument		16%
Family problem		10%
Job problem		10%
Financial problem		9%
Legal problem		8%
Death of loved one		7%
Suicide is multi-factorial. Multiple precipitating circumstances and risk factors can apply to the same person.

 

[CW36]

I bet this isn't true . Money is important, but not as important to people that they will take their life solely because of it (Except for a handful of people ) .
This table illustrates it very well (Financial problem is way down at 9%)-

Precipitating circumstances in the US, 2017[51]​
Categories			Percentage
Diagnosed mental problem		50%
Recent or upcoming crisis		31%
Intimate partner problem		27%
Physical health problem		21%
Alcohol problem		18%
Substance abuse (excluding alcohol)		18%
Argument		16%
Family problem		10%
Job problem		10%
Financial problem		9%
Legal problem		8%
Death of loved one		7%
Suicide is multi-factorial. Multiple precipitating circumstances and risk factors can apply to the same person.

There's a big difference between CTB because you can't afford the bills, and choosing to live life large after a whopping windfall. Plus with access to top treatments, many mental problems can be overcome.

 

[blitz]

Money doesn't cure mental illness. Money can't fix everyone's problems.

 

[outrider567]

Always good to get that ray of sunshine from FuneralCry. The reality is 99.999% would postpone indefinitely. Life is too good at the top. I don't believe anyone who says they'd CTB after becoming a billionaire. Money solves almost all problems and opens up a world of wonders.

You couldn't be more wrong--With the sudden death of my girllriend of 35 years, and living together most of that time, money and everything else means almost nothing to me now, and it will always be that way

 

[EndOfTheLine84]

Always good to get that ray of sunshine from FuneralCry. The reality is 99.999% would postpone indefinitely. Life is too good at the top. I don't believe anyone who says they'd CTB after becoming a billionaire. Money solves almost all problems and opens up a world of wonders.

Yeah, the option for "postpone indefinitely" would have been my choice, as nothing is ever going to convince me to agree to anything being permanent, since anything can change to completely say I would forever give up my right to choose any action or inaction in life.
Nothing is permanent anyway, Stoic writings I believe Marcus Aurelius wrote in Meditations yeah with "keep in mind how fast things pass by and are gone—those that are now, and those to come."
Wise man that Marcus Aurelius bloke was, and possibly the only non-sadistic roman emperor.

 

[CW36]

You couldn't be more wrong--With the sudden death of my girllriend of 35 years, and living together most of that time, money and everything else means almost nothing to me now, and it will always be that way

That's your story and your outlook: it doesn't make me wrong at all. Other people find the strength to move on and find happiness again, especially with a new billionaire status.

Yeah, the option for "postpone indefinitely" would have been my choice, as nothing is ever going to convince me to agree to anything being permanent, since anything can change to completely say I would forever give up my right to choose any action or inaction in life.
Nothing is permanent anyway, Stoic writings I believe Marcus Aurelius wrote in Meditations yeah with "keep in mind how fast things pass by and are gone—those that are now, and those to come."
Wise man that Marcus Aurelius bloke was, and possibly the only non-sadistic roman emperor.

Aye, humans never own, they simply rent.

 

[Alessa_Silent_Doll]

Billionaires exists by and for exploiting others labors and people. No individual can become a billionaire by only working hard full time for decades, is physically impossible. Also, if you are a billionaire magically, the system might start rising questions, questions that magic cannot answer. So, my answer is: No thank you. Would be much better to give all that money for supporting a better mental health system.

 

[bunnyswatership]

Rich people have problems too but most of my problems are tied to being poor. People are you to use you no matter the resources you have. Time, money, love, trust, forgiveness. But if I had enough money to eat and not work at a soul crushing job yeah. Later down the line I maybe back to how I feel now once the newness fades.

 

[alonely]

No comments execpt I always like seeing that a new MeltingBrain poll just dropped :)

 

[The Final Solution]

Forget billions, a few million would suffice.

 

[physics]

If becoming a billionaire could cure my boredom for a while then why not?

 

[CentreMid]

Although it would eliminate my financial struggles, it wouldn't be able to undo any of the trauma and abuse I've had to suffer through. There are just some things money can't fix.

In the meantime, I might take a nice vacation and travel somewhere as a final "huzzah!" before my death date. I've always wanted to explore the world, despite how horrible it is.

 

[Duality]

Truthfully I'd indefinitely postpone it, however money will never stop me thinking "what's next?". I've endured a lot of awful things in my life that I have managed to cope with, and I would like to have a chance at finally quitting my job to try to enjoy life a little more.

But, at the end of the day, my suicidality is a part of me. Money will only delay the inevitable, and also make it more accessible.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I voted "yes, by a few years". Short term CTB would definitely canceled but CTB in general will still be an option in the future but then proobably for different reasons. To me CTB was always and will always be an option I would consider when circumstances require it.

 

[Octavia]

I would reschedule my plans for dying to a later time, then start working on allocating these resources towards causes I believe would make the world a better place. It should take a couple of months at most, experienced advisors can easily be hired with a minuscule fraction of the total sum. Once my work is done and everything has been allocated, then I will end myself.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Fuck, if I could secure a modest livelihood I'd probably put it off for a while.

 

[CW36]

So at this particular time, the option with the highest votes is 'suspend indefinitely'. And it's 46 to 13 in favour of postponing in general. Funny how certain people have gone quiet now..

 

[Octavia]

So at this particular time, the option with the highest votes is 'suspend indefinitely'. And it's 46 to 13 in favour of postponing in general. Funny how certain people have gone quiet now..

Personally I think things look pretty even, people who postphone for a few days/weeks/months are either trying to YOLO or plan out donations, neither of which can be counted as an actual will to live.

Of course, there is no denying that money can solve many problems and would give a significant amount of people a will to live. But that number is most definitively not 99% of suicidal people, there are many things that money cannot buy. Deceased loved ones being the most glaring example. Or the environment, 1 billion isn't going to do much when individuals with hundreds of billions are intent on keeping the capitalist machine running without any regard to climate change.

 

[Holu]

No, nothing would ever make me see existence as being something desirable, I would only ever wish for permanent non existence, it isn't like those who no longer exist could ever have any use for money anyway, for me only the true relief of non existence is ideal as to die solves everything, death means permanent relief from all suffering and harm, existence was unnecessary in the first place.

I feel this. In all honesty, a huge part of me wants to ctb at the highest most successful point of my life just to prove how much I hate existence.

That said, having the money might not cure your sadness, but it can still cure others. If your planning to die, I feel like it's not out of the box for you to use that money to alleviate others pain. And hey, donating/helping others has been shown to make us happy, so maybe by helping others you might unintentionally help yourself lmao. Food for thought ig.

 

[Takamagahara]

I wouldn't view life as necessarily desirable but having unlimited free reign to indulge in hedonism doesn't sound bad. I could get a lot of painkillers. Inevtiably I'll CTB by accident via overdose or something, kinda like the last meal you get before being executed.

Speaking as someone who is/was pretty successful career wise, hedonism only goes so far. It'd delay the timer but I can't see myself ever living out my natural lifespan. Maybe a few years at most.

 

[Holu]

Personally I think things look pretty even, people who postphone for a few days/weeks/months are either trying to YOLO or plan out donations, neither of which can be counted as an actual will to live.

Of course, there is no denying that money can solve many problems and would give a significant amount of people a will to live. But that number is most definitively not 99% of suicidal people, there are many things that money cannot buy. Deceased loved ones being the most glaring example. Or the environment, 1 billion isn't going to do much when individuals with hundreds of billions are intent on keeping the capitalist machine running without any regard to climate change.

I agree. We are culminations of our genetics and environment, and if you pulled someone who spent years if not the majority of their life with a huge bitterness towards existence and put them in a new world it doesn't necessarily change the core beliefs and personality of said person.

That being said, even if a billion doesn't solve all problems, it's more than enough to maintain a constant euphoria every hour, and maybe after that much food, status, and sex you might just be content with surviving lmao.

That's your story and your outlook: it doesn't make me wrong at all. Other people find the strength to move on and find happiness again, especially with a new billionaire status.

Aye, humans never own, they simply rent.

I'm not here to agree or disagree with what your saying, but with this mindset why not just throw all your money into the lottery.

That way, if you lose you have even more reasons to ctb, and if you somehow win then ur saved.

NOW UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE AM I TELLING YOU TO DO THIS. Just curious since if your suicidal and planning to ctb anyways why not just yolo ur funds.

 

[fwompie]

Always good to get that ray of sunshine from FuneralCry. The reality is 99.999% would postpone indefinitely. Life is too good at the top. I don't believe anyone who says they'd CTB after becoming a billionaire. Money solves almost all problems and opens up a world of wonders.

I've always been middle class, I've never had problems with money, I have money for top treatment yet I've still been suicidal for 10 years. I've never cared about money, I've never wanted money, I just want to either feel good like everybody else or have peace. There's no simple pricetag to mental illness.
And generally hating society ESPECIALLY the rich, also makes this statement sound very silly to me.

 

[Holu]

I've always been middle class, I've never had problems with money, I have money for top treatment yet I've still been suicidal for 10 years. I've never cared about money, I've never wanted money, I just want to either feel good like everybody else or have peace. There's no simple pricetag to mental illness.
And generally hating society ESPECIALLY the rich, also makes this statement sound very silly to me.

Fuck the rich fuck the rich fuck the rich fuck the rich fuck the rich

 

[CW36]

I've always been middle class, I've never had problems with money, I have money for top treatment yet I've still been suicidal for 10 years. I've never cared about money, I've never wanted money, I just want to either feel good like everybody else or have peace. There's no simple pricetag to mental illness.
And generally hating society ESPECIALLY the rich, also makes this statement sound very silly to me.

Listen kid, I'm middle class too and I've lived in relative luxury, so don't pretend you have any greater insight. Many people are suicidal, but not as many actually go through with it. Two very different things. If you're a billionaire, it would open a world that you're not accustomed to and to you have no idea how much that might change your outlook. And as for hating society, especially the rich? You're clearly a bit bonkers, because no one said anything of the sort! I suggest you learn how to read before commenting again.

 

[fwompie]

Listen kid, I'm middle class too and I've lived in relative luxury, so don't pretend you have any greater insight. Many people are suicidal, but not as many actually go through with it. Two very different things. If you're a billionaire, it would open a world that you're not accustomed to and to you have no idea how much that might change your outlook. And as for hating society, especially the rich? You're clearly a bit bonkers, because no one said anything of the sort! I suggest you learn how to read before commenting again.

Once you start a comment this condescendingly, I have a hard time taking it seriously. Does it hurt your billionaire bootlicking tongue that much when someone doesn't like them?

Anyways, that is your experience with mental illness, this is mine. Money doesn't make it better for me. Don't think so black and white. There's more suicidal people who are socialist and don't want that money so your 99,99% is literally off already.

Also: I hate society and hate the rich, I said that. Learn to read before commenting again.