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Would you consider yourself as being insane?
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I consider myself way too sane to be the severely depressed I am, and I've been told that too by people who have experienced major chronic depression or depressed people near them.
No.
I consider so-called advanced modern societies to be insane though.
----Born
----indoctrinated in school
----forced to work a meaningless job so corporations, states and banks can profit through taxes and other fiscal measures
----consume ephemeral products, gadgets and services which serves two main functions 1) be kept a docile and willing participant of the social order and 2) to create more wealth/profit for the big companies and multinationals which cut their production costs by exploiting the labor of poor people/children in poor countries through outsourcing and sweatshops
----vote in sham elections which never offer meaningful change
----notice how the media works to create social and political consensus so that the field of acceptable discourse and dissent operates within a narrow margin, so the interests of big banks and global fiscal organizations can be furthered
----witness civil liberties and freedoms being curtailed because of 'terrorism' and 'viruses'
----get informed about how millions of suffering animals are treated and killed in factory farms/slaughterhouses every year
----get constantly told how much of a 'gift' life is, how 'precious' it is, how suicide is some kind of evil act etc, which creates cognitive dissonance in light of all the former observations
----then you die, an insignificant event from the point of view of the wider society, since you will just be replaced by another cog which will generate a finite amount of surplus monetary value during its lifetime then will die in its turn
Much like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", I think similar concepts apply to sanity. Incorporate concepts about "living in glass houses" and then everything is relative and like most aspects of life we are all on a continuum - little in life is black or white. Hopefully, someone can decipher my point.
One thing I perceive is that as humans age throughout life, they tend to get less and less mentally stable, in general. Was taking to my sister about my observation as we both are in late middle ages. I told her so many people around our age seem really messed up. She said it's to be expected after enduring "a lifetime full of the typical shit associated with living".
I guess concepts about loss of resiliency associated with aging might come into play here.
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I wish I were insane because I feel like it would be less painful to be less aware.
I am very sick but every irrational thought and action is clear to me and is so frustrating as I'm a logical person, or perceive myself to be, but can't out-logical mental illness.
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No.
I consider so-called advanced modern societies to be insane though.
----Born
----indoctrinated in school
----forced to work a meaningless job so corporations, states and banks can profit through taxes and other fiscal measures
----consume ephemeral products, gadgets and services which serves two main functions 1) be kept a docile and willing participant of the social order and 2) to create more wealth/profit for the big companies and multinationals which cut their production costs by exploiting the labor of poor people/children in poor countries through outsourcing and sweatshops
----vote in sham elections which never offer meaningful change
----notice how the media works to create social and political consensus so that the field of acceptable discourse and dissent operates within a narrow margin, so the interests of big banks and global fiscal organizations can be furthered
----witness civil liberties and freedoms being curtailed because of 'terrorism' and 'viruses'
----get informed about how millions of suffering animals are treated and killed in factory farms/slaughterhouses every year
----get constantly told how much of a 'gift' life is, how 'precious' it is, how suicide is some kind of evil act etc, which creates cognitive dissonance in light of all the former observations
----then you die, an insignificant event from the point of view of the wider society, since you will just be replaced by another cog which will generate a finite amount of surplus monetary value during its lifetime then will die in its turn
Hm. I guess I think "insane and "crazy" have an inherently negative sound to it. Am I crazy because I've tried to kill myself multiple times? No. Am I crazy for still struggling with suicidal ideation? No.
In fact, I feel as though those who have mental health afflictions are always very intelligent, kind, "woke" (I truly hate that term) human beings. The ones who suffer the most often see things in this life for what they are.
I guess this is a subjective question. I believe it is everyone else that seems "crazy" to me. The ones that buy into this idea of happiness and that think life is beautiful. Life is cruel.
So I guess to answer your question, do I think I'm insane/crazy? Sure. And it scares me. But I am who I am. I'm making very contradictory points within this post and I'm fully aware of that.
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No, and I think that's part of the problem. Whenever I reach out for help, people see that I'm still mostly well-composed and rational, so they assume it's not that bad. I'd love if this were just an error in the way I was thinking and once I was "healthy" again it would go away. The problem is that I feel like I've thought this through from every angle, and suicide is just clearly my best option. If anything, the fact that it seems like the most rational choice is the worst part of it.
(To answer your question seriously, I honestly don't know. I am pretty self-aware and I believe I have a good understanding of events and others outside of my "self"...and ultimately I've philosophized so much to the point where I deem it unworthy of my time and energy to try and act like everything's okay when it is clearly not. So much wrong in the world, so much wrong with me, so much wrong with people around me...ugh. Who even cares, y'know? Why not just fucking lose it? What does it matter anyway?)
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(To answer your question seriously, I honestly don't know. I am pretty self-aware and I believe I have a good understanding of events and others outside of my "self"...and ultimately I've philosophized so much to the point where I deem it unworthy of my time and energy to try and act like everything's okay when it is clearly not. So much wrong in the world, so much wrong with me, so much wrong with people around me...ugh. Who even cares, y'know? Why not just fucking lose it? What does it matter anyway?)
Seriously though, I don't think I am insane most of the time, but when I get too stressed out by things, that can change in a hurry. During those moments, I will often say, believe, or do things that are definitely irrational and then beat myself up over them when I have calmed down.
Depending on the situation, sometimes it escalates quickly, or it's more gradual, but intrusive thoughts can easily worm their way in once the cracks appear and then I end up becoming extremely angry or I have panic attacks. It's during moments like those when I have said horrible things to people and I have lost friends over it. It really sucks.
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I wouldnt call myself crazy, maybe not of this world perhaps. Eccentric absolutely. That's why I feel like my spaceship abandoned me here and forgot to take me back lol
Sometimes yes, but not now. When i know im actually insane, which is when im manic, i dont feel suicidal. I feel very normal except being depressed when im suicidal!
Utterly. Absolutely HoneyNutLoops. I just spent an hour howling at the moon and I now have my pants on my head and a pencil up each nostril. here is a video.
Society sees us as insane/crazy/etc but we are the ones dealing with reality on a daily basis and choosing how to face it and do what we want with it, instead of putting it all in a box and burying it. So are we insane or are the so called 'normal's' crazy?
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Not really. I think the world is insane and because I do not follow societal dictates that make absolutely no sense. I am actually sane. But by the same token, those that do buy into nonsensical societal norms will label me as insane.
I have a sense of morals and ethics but my mental illness makes me odd/weird/an outcast. I think I'm weird but not necessarily insane because I'm definitely not alone in the way of how I feel.
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