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notreallyhere

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Dec 12, 2022
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Will be attempting later this evening with crushed Wolfsbane / aconitum napellus seeds, one package bought on Amazon 20 seeds that weigh in at over lethal dose. From university studies I've read .16g of the seeds is lethal dose. I've fasted to hopefully avoid making as much of a mess from the possible side affects of it. I also have Zofran/ondansetron to pre-med with to avoid nausea and vomiting as much as possible. From MayoClinic and working healthcare I know a 24mg max dosing 30 minutes prior to chemotherapy/severe nausea is advised, so that's what I'll do. Plus side as well of Zofran's heart issue side effects accentuating the Wolfsbane heart affects hopefully.
I also have oxycodone 10mg, gabapentin 600mg, and tramadol 100mg to hopefully also help with accentuating the heart issues and respiratory depression as well as of course keep me calm and just pass out ideally. I have more of each of those but don't want to take so much that I get crazy nauseous and disoriented to a frightening degree as I have no opioid tolerance whatsoever, they are just leftover pet medications. I will also have some activated charcoal capsules and place an IV catheter so that I can administer 5ml of 20mg/ml of Lidocaine if it becomes so unbearable and drawn out that I wish to treat symptoms to stabilize. I don't anticipate this being the case, but of course the idea of sitting in anguish for hours on end without actual death in sight isn't the goal.

Posting this in case it is helpful to any others, as this site has been helpful for me in finding info on technicalities on methods and how I learned about Wolfsbane to begin with. I've seen posts of failed attempts with it but it seems to have been with other strains of Wolfsbane not napellus specifically so I am hoping that is what will make or break the end result. I understand it's not exactly going to be the most peaceful route potentially but I've tried taking as much measures as I can think of to make it better. I will update if it fails or if I end up in hospital instead, though I am driving far out into woods away from folks and have no one in my life so the chances of ending up in hospital are virtually nonexistent. Hopefully these details assist others in planning their route. I appreciate this site for the logistics especially, helping to avoid wasting efforts on methods and incorrect dosing. No one wants to end up with a failed attempt or a vegetable.

My only previous attempts have been with a syringe pump and 2g fentanyl/China white powder bought off the tor.taxi archetyp market but it was shit and wouldn't dissolve despite adding citric acid and then trying to cook it down, tried with it anyway multiple times but the white chunks in it clogged my iv line and wouldn't push through. Immeasurably disappointing as I thought it would be surefire and took work to secure a syringe pump and IV catheter supplies.


For anyone who wants Wolfsbane study specifics, from one of the studies:
"The root is consisted of .3-2% aconitine (poison) which means you would only have to ingest about .15g of the root to reach a deadly dosage. There is a 0.2-1.2% aconite concentration in leaves which means .6g would be needed to kill a person. Lastly, there are 1-2% aconite in the actual seeds of the plant, which means that an adult only needs to take in about .15g of the seed to put themselves in an extremely bad position."


But studies on it are very easy to find if you feel up to doing the research.

Best of luck to everyone here.
 
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AshersGirl

AshersGirl

Girl, Interrupted
Apr 29, 2022
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I am so sad that the difficulties obtaining more peaceful measures drive many to methods that may be more traumatic or cause more drawn out suffering. It's easy to get your hands on these seeds and they only seem to require low dosage to cause potential fatality so restricting SN purchase seems hypocritical but hey ho…. I guess because this is not a "common" method.

Anyway, I can't say much about your method as I know nothing at all about it beyond what you have posted. I truly hope you find peace with minimal suffering whether you choose to attempt this way or to wait.

Thinking of you tonight.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

She wished that she never existed...
Sep 24, 2020
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I hope that you find the freedom you search for, best of luck in your plans.
 
Tears in Rain

Tears in Rain

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Dec 12, 2023
855
The Wolfsbane method, it might catch on! It seems like you have done your homework, I hope it isn't painful for you, I wish you peace!
 
todienomore

todienomore

Specialist
Apr 7, 2023
395
This user failed with 10 seeds and 2oz of plant material, used a plant in the same genus. Unsure if the potency variation between species is actually significant.



i hope they succeed but its a better idea to way overshoot the dose to avoid unexpected potency or bioavailability issues.
 
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DeadHead

Belief is the enemy of knowledge
Aug 20, 2023
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Would appreciate updates for as long as you are able to provide them.
 
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notreallyhere

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Dec 12, 2022
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From all I've read yes it being the specific napellus strain is significant. I saw that post when I was researching others experiences with Wolfsbane on this site, if I remember correctly they chose that strain because they liked the color of that strains flowers and hoped if the seeds survived where their body was buried that the flowers would grow out of them or something like that… while I understand that's a nice thought and all, from everything I read the strain isn't that toxic so I did not go with that one.

Took zofran 45 minutes prior to arrival at my woods spot, took my pills and crushed seeds about 10 minutes ago now. Only slight nausea and no change in heart rate or BP as of yet.
This user failed with 10 seeds and 2oz of plant material, used a plant in the same genus. Unsure if the potency variation between species is actually significant.



i hope they succeed but its a better idea to way overshoot the dose to avoid unexpected potency or bioavailability issues.
 
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notreallyhere

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Dec 12, 2022
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Would appreciate updates for as long as you are able to provide them.
Nothing worse than waking to another failure. Should have overestimated with the seeds I think. Will try 100-200 next attempt, and hopefully be able to find some of the root material as well online that hasn't been boiled off to avoid toxicity. If anyone knows of where to find this please let me know.

Around the 2-3 hour mark sharp tingles and numbness in extremities, slight increase in nausea and stomach cramping but not bad at all.
Around 4-5 hour mark was marked drop in BP and heart rate, around 40 BPM, moderate respiratory depression. Difficult to breathe as though heavy weight on chest, couldn't take full deep breaths in. Still peaceful though.

When I have more seeds to try again will update this. If someone attempts with Wolfsbane please post about how it goes for you to help guide. I'm so disappointed to have woken again. I should've bought more seeds.
 
todienomore

todienomore

Specialist
Apr 7, 2023
395
@notreallyhere

a few notes
have you considered other pharma heart meds?

this mentions a max dose of 20g dried root


"50% of today's genuine Jiangyou Fuzi production has been monopolized by a pharmaceutical consortium (producing aconite injection fluids for heart patients) sponsored by the Chinese government, 40% is bought by Japanese herb companies, and only the remaining 10% yield (from an area smaller than 60 acres) can be purchased from local growers. In addition to non-traditional processing techniques, this paucity of genuine Fuzi is the most important reason why the aconite presently available on the modern market produces is of non-medicinal grade quality and thus often produces side-effects. As evidenced by most texts containing ancient case studies, traditionally processed Fuzi from Jiangyou is not only safe to use for many chronic disorders, but is indispensable in classical Chinese herbalism as "The King of the 100 Herbs.""

 
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notreallyhere

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Dec 12, 2022
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I wonder if that is talking about the Aconitum heterophyllum strain, apparently it is used in cases of heart issues and to counteract toxicity cases which is wild since it exists within the same family of mostly toxic strains of other aconitums.

"Unlike other Aconitum species, Aconitum heterophyllum was proved to be helpful in a rat poisoning study. To begin, the plant's ethanolic extract was tested for oral toxicity, but it was found to be harmless. Castor oil's action was reversed by an ethanolic extract of the plant."

I know that other names for the Chinese medicine versions/processed versions of aconitum that come from the less toxic carmichaelii strain are called a few other names as referenced below, and seem to be all I can find regarding root material on Etsy eBay Amazon or Chinese medicine bulk herb sites. But even though the processed (ie boiled off or soaked in salt mixture for hours to days at a time to negate toxicity) versions are referenced to still be potentially toxic, that means in my view it would make it near impossible to accurately dose for myself to a toxic degree, you know? Which makes it feel quite difficult.

"Caowu, Chuanwu, Fuzi and Tianxiong are four examples of Chinese herbal drugs that are deriving from the same species Aconitum carmichaelii Debx., which is the common herb to be used nowadays [3]. The medical use of Aconitums, regardless of the raw or processed herbs, are highly cautious since its obvious toxicity."

There is someone on here who mentioned harvesting roots fresh but from unknown strain, and I have messaged them directly asking about it but haven't heard back, not sure if they are still active on this site. Only one I've found that mentions access to or experience with fresh root tubers which is very ideal since from what I've read the roots and seeds are the most concentrated toxicity.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/does-chopping-up-the-roots-make-them-less-poisonous.122606/

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When you say other pharma heart meds I assume you mean BP meds? Like ARBs that block the receptors that AT2 uses to narrow your blood vessels?
 

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