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enjolras

enjolras

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Feb 13, 2020
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@Lion84 so sorry about what happened to you. That's a horrible story. Hope the euthanasia assistance where you live can help you, after everything you went through. If you find the strength in you, might be worth to wait. You deserve it

I took two breaths and I was out. Next thing what happened is me laying on the floor very passed out and pissed myself. I my unconcosnius I felt outside my bed and ripped the bag from my head. I wouldn't recommend the Exit Bag at all. It can give you braindamage and you will end it up like me. Very suicidal and unhappy in life. Now I have SN ready to take. I am planning it to take it tomorrow.

That's kind of my reluctance with inert gases, that changes of body position out of self-control can modify the initial configuration of the setup. Were you sitting inside your bed when you did it ?
When you're oxygen deprived, you can experience a loss of coordination. If you try to fight back at such time, it must be pretty miserable
 
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Lion84

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Feb 19, 2020
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yeah (sorry maybe bad english) I was laying in my bed. Half up, half laying, but really on one side of the bed. I did the exit bag over my head and let the gas (Nitrogen) flown in. I remember I took maybe one or two breaths and then all black. Next thing what happened was that I was laying beside my bed on the floor. For how many minutes I don't know. I was laying face down with both my arms under my body. I was dreaming, I was dreaming that I couldn't use my arms anymore, I was trying to reach out to something but there wasn't any strength. My arms turned numb out of blood. Then suddenly I opened my eyes and saw the gastank. Then I realized what was going on. I stood up and saw my bed wet, I looked at my pants and I realized I pissed myself during the time I was away. It was a close call to death and I panicked and have sent to clinic. It was very scary the whole situation. After that I tried it again with helium and also nitrogen but it never did the trick for me. I have also bought a mask but didn't do the trick also. I am done with the exit bag methode. It think it sucks. Few people succeed with it. And it gave me braindamage :(
 
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With how closely you're describing death in your post, I can only question why you pissed yourself before death. I do not buy this at all. Rigor mortis will cause your muscles to relax varying from two hours to six hours. Defecation and urination (while not every dead body will poop or pee) tends to happen after death, not initially while you're dying.

Please don't spout bullshit on the forum. Thanks. People use this forum as an outlet to write their fiction and it's really frustrating to outweigh what is true or not true.
 
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Lion84

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Well pardon me but I don't think you can judge me about sending bullshit through this page. That was really what happened. I lay down, put bag on my head, started the gasflow, suddenly I wake up on the ground, passed out and shit. And I pissed myself. I don't know what reaction that is. Maybe stress or something, but it really happened. Why do I have to lie about it? What is it in for me for lying about my own expierence? Don't say I am talking bullshit because you don't know it. You wasn't here. You didn't have a wet stain in your bed or a pants on who was very wet. It happened my pall it happened.
 
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@Lion84 don't worry, there are good readers of bad english. Kidding you bro ! You're doing very fine

Don't know what to say. As for myself, I trust you. Thank you for taking the time to dive back in your memories and warn us that things can go out of track, ought to be weighted out. You had a shitty experience. At least, your opinion is valuable. Thanks for the feedback
 
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Jan 17, 2019
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The great thing about forums is that anyone can express their opinion and have someone disagree or agree. In this case, I am skeptical about your attempt with inert gas. Even one of the person's who I would deem more qualified to talk about this method even gave some criticism about your attempt.

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Anyone can believe you at the end of the day, however, your actions of dismissing a method that has almost 200+ years of research is awful anyone researching attempts or successful stories. Auditory hallucinations from asphyxiation that lead to brain damage is not anything I've personally heard of. Researching a little further into that topic I was unable to find much regarding cases of it unless they already suffered from psychosis or some other relating issue.

It also especially easy to deflect any criticism of you lying by commenting how "you're not lying [...] you did not piss your pants [...]". This method (aforementioned by various pro-choice groups and fightingioux) is reliable in causing self-termination.
 
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Lion84

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The great thing about forums is that anyone can express their opinion and have someone disagree or agree. In this case, I am skeptical about your attempt with inert gas. Even one of the person's who I would deem more qualified to talk about this method even gave some criticism about your attempt.

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Anyone can believe you at the end of the day, however, your actions of dismissing a method that has almost 200+ years of research is awful anyone researching attempts or successful stories. Auditory hallucinations from asphyxiation that lead to brain damage is not anything I've personally heard of. Researching a little further into that topic I was unable to find much regarding cases of it unless they already suffered from psychosis or some other relating issue.

It also especially easy to deflect any criticism of you lying by commenting how "you're not lying [...] you did not piss your pants [...]". This method (aforementioned by various pro-choice groups and fightingioux) is reliable in causing self-termination.
Well good story, nice research also.
Fact is, I did the exit bag method, with helium. My mother died from it and I found her and I was in misery and grief and did it also. Stupidest thing I ever did.
But fact is, I can hear things inside my head, that is a fact. I can hear it. I also get counseling from an euthanasia clinic here in Holland because they see me struggling to survive each day. And Fact is that is I also tried the exit bag methode with nitrogen.
I passed out, woke up on the floor, all wet and realized I pissed myself. That are the facts given. You can call me liar, son of a bitch, you call me anything but that's are the facts given and that's how I experienced it.
So you can post a reply on it with all kinds of information and other facts but I am living it and it is horror. I wouldn't grant it to the worst kind of people. You don't know me, I am gentle, kind, and good person and I am living the worst life ever. So don't judge me please. I made a mistake with doing the exit bag method, my mother gave the wrong example in case what the do when you are in big trouble. Suicide isn't ever the answer. Sorry for my maybe bad english

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I have red the thing you posted. It hurts, people that don't know how it is.
And honestly I did it the wrong way. I didn't use a proper set up. I just put a bag on my head and let the gas flow into it for 10/15 minutes. No research or nothing. I did it like my mother succeeded with it. It failed me. I didn't even heard of this method until I found my mother with a bag on her head and a helium canister beside her. You can say whatever you say but what I say is for real otherwise I wasn't even on this misery forum.
 
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ennui

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Mar 31, 2020
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what is the N everyone is referring to as being a better solution, like Nitrogen?
 
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Emily123

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May 28, 2019
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I don't want to suffer otherwise I would strted the regim tonight to finish it this weekend . N or F will be the methods that I will go with it without any doubt
what is the N everyone is referring to as being a better solution, like Nitrogen?
Nembutal
 
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The part about SN melting your insides is a lie, and everything else OP said is already very well known, at least by people who have done proper research on the method.
 
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adam&eve

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Dec 16, 2020
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This is the furthest thing from the truth. You basically have to take the PERFECT amount for your height, weight, medical condition, sex, etc. for it to be kind of painless and take less than 30 minutes to kill you (meaning, not fast). Its not like N where the more you take, the faster you die. SN will burn a hole in your stomach if you take too much and may even dissolve your esophagus on the way down. But if you take too little, you're just going to writhed in pain and god knows what else. It will definitely kill you, but if you choose this method, expect suffering and pain for up to 30 minutes before you die.
Great post! This method is very favourised on this forum, but no one mentions the dangers as if there are none.
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
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Great post! This method is very favourised on this forum, but no one mentions the dangers as if there are none.
You are totally wrong, it does not dissolve your insides. All you've done on here is make post after post trying to scare people about brain damage and now this rubbish.
 
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adam&eve

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Dec 16, 2020
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You are totally wrong, it does not dissolve your insides. All you've done on here is make post after post trying to scare people about brain damage and now this rubbish.
I'm a first time poster on this thread...
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
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You've made 33 posts, one suggesting that co-proxamol carries a risk of brain damage.

If you have nothing useful to say just leave.
 
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You've made 33 posts, one suggesting that co-proxamol carries a risk of brain damage.

If you have nothing useful to say just leave.
What are you blabbing? I said I'm a first time poster ON THIS THREAD. Learn to read. I never ever talked about co-proxamol as I don't even know what that is.
You are the one who is being unuseful here, imo.
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
566
Anyone else keep struggling with methods and wish a new one would emerge? | Sanctioned Suicide

That's what I'm blabbing about. I don't care if you only posted once here, I'm talking about the rubbish you've been posting elsewhere as well.

"It might give you brain damage" "SN melts your innards".

You either have no clue what you're talking about, in which case you should profer no opinion, or you are deliberately trying to scare people who are in pain.

Going by your user name I guess you're a pro lifer trying to put people off ending their pain.
 
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Anyone else keep struggling with methods and wish a new one would emerge? | Sanctioned Suicide

That's what I'm blabbing about. I don't care if you only posted once here, I'm talking about the rubbish you've been posting elsewhere as well.

"It might give you brain damage" "SN melts your innards".

You either have no clue what you're talking about, in which case you should profer no opinion, or you are deliberately trying to scare people who are in pain.

Going by your user name I guess you're a pro lifer trying to put people off ending their pain.
It says I WOULD GUESS!!! That means that I am ready for someone to give me exact information about it, not that I am stating that it does!!!

Have you read my OTHER posts maybe???

and yes of course I am VERY concerned about brain damage and I try to find a method that has zero possibility of it!
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
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Death is when your brain dies. There is no method that avoids the risk of brain damage.
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
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What it kills you but your brain stays alive?

To get to death your brain has to be deprived of oxygen, if someone finds you and you get revived during that time then there's a risk of brain damage. Whatever the method.

That's why you make sure you do it right and don't get found, whether it's hanging or compression r SN or anything else.

Every method can result in brain damage.
 
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adam&eve

Student
Dec 16, 2020
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What it kills you but your brain stays alive?

To get to death your brain has to be deprived of oxygen, if someone finds you and you get revived during that time then there's a risk of brain damage. Whatever the method.

That's why you make sure you do it right and don't get found, whether it's hanging or compression r SN or anything else.

Every method can result in brain damage.
But with F the death happens instantly... I don't think if a half hour passed that you would hve the chance to be saved if found. Maybe I'm wrong. But I'm all for those methods that leave a small window for reversal if found. I think F is that option, better than SN in my opinion.
 
TAW122

TAW122

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Aug 30, 2018
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While this isn't my method, I believe (after being on SS for over two years) that it is due to the fact that is a legal substance (used in meat-curing and packaging), along with the fact that N (Nembutal) is banned in many places around the world. Also, that there are many people who have successfully CTB'd using SN. Of course, everyone's circumstances are different, so not everyone can obtain any particular method easily due to their personal circumstances.
 
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mimiopo22

mimiopo22

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Dec 4, 2020
380
Sono d'accordo con questo. SN è molto imprevedibile. È LONTANO dall'affidabile e indolore. Ci sono molti casi in cui ci vogliono fino a giorni per morire mentre si ha un forte dolore. Basta cercarlo su google e troverai molti di questi rapporti. Sono d'accordo che sia facilmente accessibile e sterrato ma non lo rende un buon metodo. Se ne parla molto poiché PPeH lo ha recentemente incorporato nel capitolo sui sali inorganici. Se non hai accesso all'N, puoi considerare i gas inerti, CO o anche la clorochina che penso siano tutte alternative migliori.
I've never heard of cases where it took days to die.
 
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Seagullsiren

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Sep 11, 2019
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I took SN and almost succeeded but I was found in less than an hour. My experience was that the taste was bad, the effects came on suddenly. I was light headed and nauseous. I got out of my car (where I was supposed to stay) and collapsed within a few feet of it. I remember falling and nothing after that. Really wasn't bad at all, and even though I fucked up and was found and brought to the ER which was very close by, I still almost managed to die. It was peaceful, though I realize dose is important. I think I took like 15-20g.
 
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mimiopo22

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Dec 4, 2020
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how do you figure out how much sn you should take based on age and height?
how do you figure out how much sn you should take based on age and height?
 
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Kruger

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Dec 26, 2019
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Because hearsay is repeated by laypeople here until it becomes "fact". There is alo alot of misinfo on pentobarbital. That;s why i went to see a doctor about it, i go by what he says, not people here.
You will see people claiming there will not no ill effects if SN doesn't work. It's patently false - it depends on you and what other conditions to have. In my case, because i have a brain tumour, it could cause a stroke or seizures and/or brain damage. It's vital to get info from credible scientific sources, not forums like this.
 
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