What’s the point of existing if we will inevitably die?

[sserafim]

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We were born to die

 

[ijustwishtodie]

There isn't any point. There isn't any objective meaning to it all. Our lives aren't as valuable or meaningful as humanity thinks it is

 

[sserafim]

There isn't any point. There isn't any objective meaning to it all. Our lives aren't as valuable or meaningful as humanity thinks it is

I just don't see the point in why I had to experience life. I never wanted to anyways, it seems like a burden to me.

 

[ctbcat]

maybe it makes the sweet release of death all the more sweeter...

we know what life puts you through, so when we die, our consciousness must breath a sigh of relief for a split second; 'ah, at least that's over...'

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I just don't see the point in why I had to experience life. I never wanted to anyways, it seems like a burden to me.

There isn't any point. You were just unlucky, that's all unfortunately. I am unlucky too for the same reason. May you find peace soon from the burden of life and adulthood

 

[UKscotty]

To enjoy life and feel happiness I guess.

Sadly not possible for those of us with untreatable depression.

 

[sserafim]

To enjoy life and feel happiness I guess.

Sadly not possible for those of us with untreatable depression.

The happy moments in life are still so rare though compared to the sad moments. The bad parts outweigh the good parts, it's not an equal tradeoff

 

[Deleted member 8119]

To me, make the world better while you can. Have a positive impact and a real reason to be here. Don't just let it as it is.

 

[Adûnâi]

AGI might develop indefinite lifespans after the technological singularity.

Of course, traditionally the view has been that you're a slave to your family.

 

[sserafim]

AGI might develop indefinite lifespans after the technological singularity.

Of course, traditionally the view has been that you're a slave to your family.

It's so unfair though because I never asked for any of this. I never wanted to be alive

 

[Checker130]

What's amazing is that some see it as the endless possibility you don't let go of and others, like us, just want it over with. I wonder if I'm sick or they are.

 

[sserafim]

What's amazing is that some see it as the endless possibility you don't let go of and others, like us, just want it over with. I wonder if I'm sick or they are.

For people (cough cough normies), existing is all they've known, so I guess they're naturally scared that one day they will inevitably die. You only have one shot at life, hence the saying "you only live once". I think that there's nothing inherently valuable about life, it was forced upon and imposed onto all of us. There's nothing inherently good about life or being alive, you just are and it just is.

 

[Adûnâi]

It's so unfair though because I never asked for any of this. I never wanted to be alive

True, it's just an unfortunate side-effect of having sufficient self-awareness. Nature doesn't care about exceptions.

 

[Oliver]

The problem is, that it's not possible to imagine non-existence - we can only imagine being alive - that's all we know. Like the saying goes: "nobody really wants to die, they just want the pain to end", and I believe that wholeheartedly.

 

[Namarupa]

The meaning of life lies in the procreation of life itself. In other words, the same raison d'être as cancer cells.

 

[sserafim]

The problem is, that it's not possible to imagine non-existence - we can only imagine being alive - that's all we know. Like the saying goes: "nobody really wants to die, they just want the pain to end", and I believe that wholeheartedly.

Life is pointless and meaningless though, there's really no reason why we exist. Personally, I would've been okay with never experiencing life. It's an experience that I never wanted in the first place. The thing I hate the most though is that there really was no reason for me to exist, it just happened. I don't like existing or being alive, and I never wanted to be alive anyways. Unfortunately, I didn't have a choice, as I was born without being able to consent. Existence is something that was imposed upon me without a choice or say in the matter.

The meaning of life lies in the procreation of life itself. In other words, the same raison d'être as cancer cells.

Such an annoying reason lol. It's not fair that I had to be born and suffer just because my parents procreated. I literally never asked for or wanted any of this. I never wanted to be alive. I never wanted this experience. I wish that I were never born, or that I could've been aborted or something

 

[Oliver]

AGI might develop indefinite lifespans after the technological singularity.

Of course, traditionally the view has been that you're a slave to your family.

Wouldn't mind not to age. Aging is extremely depressing and often also a horrible way to die.

Life is pointless and meaningless though, there's really no reason why we exist. Personally, I would've been okay with never experiencing life. It's an experience that I never wanted in the first place. The thing I hate the most though is that there really was no reason for me to exist, it just happened. I don't like existing or being alive, and I never wanted to be alive anyways. Unfortunately, I didn't have a choice, as I was born without being able to consent. Existence is something that was imposed upon me without a choice or say in the matter.

Such an annoying reason lol. It's not fair that I had to be born and suffer just because my parents procreated. I literally never asked for or wanted any of this. I never wanted to be alive. I never wanted this experience. I wish that I were never born, or that I could've been aborted or something

You hate the life you have because of reasons I know nothing about - same as I do... If you had magic powers and could be whoever you'd like, do whatever you'd like, look however you'd like, be as rich as you'd like, have no mental issues etc. etc. then I doubt that you would really want to die.

I wouldn't mind being reborn in a parallel universe where things did go a hell of a lot different then they did in this life.

 

[dragonofenvy]

For those who hate life, there is no reason.

For those who love life, it's to continue loving life until they hate it.

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

Just NPCs doing what they do without questioning it.

Most are filthy povery striken, illiterate tramps that can't think past their own shit stained mud hut of mediocrity.

They are the ones who ultimately got flayed alive by peer pressure, societal pressure, thinking what they were doing was some noble deed.

They think "Its just nature" to procreate but nature under then greenery is a horrifying abomination of teeth and claw, desperation and destruction of life forms to endure a pointless continuation of misery.

All life must be erradicated in the universe to achieve utter peace, not just life but all matter so that it doesn't respawn the virus of life.

Humanity unfortunately hasn't understood the true goal, thanks to pissing in their playpen of technological "Progress" which involves nothing purposeful at all.

Humanity could have progressed into annihilation for all, i guess video games and tv are more important.

Such a waste.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

It's so unfair though because I never asked for any of this. I never wanted to be alive

Exactly.

None of us ever asked to work 40-50 hours per week just to pay for a place to sleep and eat. But if we don't work 40-50 hours per week, we will die (unless your parents or a welfare system takes care of you).

None of us ever asked to comply with a tyrannical racist, evil oligarchy that divides and conquers us all. But if we don't pick a side, we will be unable to work 40-50 hours per week because none of their corporations will hire us, none of their banks will work with us, and we'll die.

And even if we do everything mentioned above and do it loyally, we are still going to die.

My human existence was so good with my husband. I looked forward to going to sleep and waking up to his beautiful smile everyday. But even he, who did everything right (worked 40-50 hours per week, never drank alcohol, never committed a crime, voted, paid taxes, etc.) was killed by police at age 31 because he's black. And nobody was held accountable.

Life truly is pointless.

 

[sserafim]

Wouldn't mind not to age. Aging is extremely depressing and often also a horrible way to die.

You hate the life you have because of reasons I know nothing about - same as I do... If you had magic powers and could be whoever you'd like, do whatever you'd like, look however you'd like, be as rich as you'd like, have no mental issues etc. etc. then I doubt that you would really want to die.

I wouldn't mind being reborn in a parallel universe where things did go a hell of a lot different then they did in this life.

Same, I don't want to age either. I'd rather die young than have to get old. I find aging depressing and horrible as well. The end destination is death anyways, so why not fast forward straight to it? There's really no point in having to experience old age and mental and physical decline. There's a saying called old and weak/frail, and that's true.

 

[0000000000000]

After all these years on this planet i recently found something that would be very worthwhile to experience but in this life i don't have it and most likely won't have it so i see no point in continuing to live this life without it.

 

[MrsNobody]

There isn't any point. There isn't any objective meaning to it all. Our lives aren't as valuable or meaningful as humanity thinks it is

I teeter between this being one big experiment and the idea that we are just animals that have gained more self awareness than what was intended.

 

[Oliver]

Same, I don't want to age either. I'd rather die young than have to get old. I find aging depressing and horrible as well. The end destination is death anyways, so why not fast forward straight to it? There's really no point in having to experience old age and mental and physical decline. There's a saying called old and weak/frail, and that's true.

Yeah, totally agree. We were actually meant to die young - that's why we age in the first place. Our purpose is just to procreate and then die. The reasons why I haven't CTB'ed yet are:

1. I still have a small fear of hell (it's said that you go to hell if you commit suicide)

2. I have no access to a gun which is my preferred way to CTB

3. The ones left behind will be hurt a lot. To those who are reading this: DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THIS. Suicide will have a devastating effect on those left behind - there is no denying this. I still plan to CTB in the not so distant future, but one must definitely take into account that someone is going to be hurt a lot by your choice.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

The problem is, that it's not possible to imagine non-existence - we can only imagine being alive - that's all we know. Like the saying goes: "nobody really wants to die, they just want the pain to end", and I believe that wholeheartedly.

I can imagine non existence and it's... beautiful to me

 

[Final_Choice]

There's no point, existence is just life, nothing more and nothing less. If you like it then great and keep living, if you don't then, well... that's why we're here.

 

[Relic]

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We were born to die

Or maybe we were born to train the AI.

 

[FutureHanger]

Not to be argumentative but this logic is contradictory imo, what's the point of caring if everything has a point? Every point is contingent on something else e.g. the point of wanting food is to be alive, the point of wanting something to make sense is to understand it etc. and we weren't born to die, we were born because of evolution and our parents, we just happen to all die but that's not why we were born.

 

[parallelluniverse]

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We were born to die

It's a great question and I'd like to share something.

I think there are many things humans can do, I think we can be good listeners, be super fashionable, make a good coat stand for somebody... just loads of things...

But I think the point, has been decided somehow for us all. By... some, like, thing. The universe works how it does, the phenomenon that is ME just exists without reasons given, and the world floats about like it does (like normal)... and it's like, up to me to find out how it all works and guess wha the point is till I 'pop my clogs' as they say. But maybe, there's more to life after life, so that all the learning and growing and developing between being born and dying was actually for a reason...

I still look around sometimes though... when I walk through a place, and have feelings that I can only describe as revelatory feelings... that life is actually a thing... that its actually real... I think the point is 'experiencing it'... and being a part of the experience... I think what we call life is only a part of the full experience... otherwise, what would be the point?

X

 

[sserafim]

Not to be argumentative but this logic is contradictory imo, what's the point of caring if everything has a point? Every point is contingent on something else e.g. the point of wanting food is to be alive, the point of wanting something to make sense is to understand it etc. and we weren't born to die, we were born because of evolution and our parents, we just happen to all die but that's not why we were born.

Yeah but like there's no meaning of life. That's what annoys and irks me. There's no reason for our existence. Life itself is inherently meaningless, and the main thing I hate is that I was brought into this world without my consent. There is no reason why we were born

It's a great question and I'd like to share something.

I think there are many things humans can do, I think we can be good listeners, be super fashionable, make a good coat stand for somebody... just loads of things...

But I think the point, has been decided somehow for us all. By... some, like, thing. The universe works how it does, the phenomenon that is ME just exists without reasons given, and the world floats about like it does (like normal)... and it's like, up to me to find out how it all works and guess wha the point is till I 'pop my clogs' as they say. But maybe, there's more to life after life, so that all the learning and growing and developing between being born and dying was actually for a reason...

I still look around sometimes though... when I walk through a place, and have feelings that I can only describe as revelatory feelings... that life is actually a thing... that its actually real... I think the point is 'experiencing it'... and being a part of the experience... I think what we call life is only a part of the full experience... otherwise, what would be the point?

X

I never wanted to experience life though. I would've been completely okay with never existing. Existence is something that I never even wanted in the first place