Discussion What Happens to Consciousness When We Die

[goomsoom]

Hopefully @WhyIsLife56 will post something here when she comes back. Her profile says she's taking a little break from the forum.

I read your above post and I always felt the same birth has no value, all the pain one has to suffer is not worth the experience. But thought may be I am little crazy to have all these thoughts, always kept it to myself. I cannot distract myself for long from these thoughts, it doesn't feel like there is a greater purpose for anything, everything is temporary. Too bad I still have a lot of years left unless some accident happen.

Now from @WhyIsLife56 profile I learned about Antinatalism and Efilism its really fascinating. I hope she is still here.

I joined here like 10 days ago, it feels like I am a member here for so long, there is so much info, ironically now I want to wait a bit more in the life.

 

[RedFive]

It will be nothingness, even though we cant comprehend nothingness, yet we have all been in that stage before we were born.

trippy

 

[diyCTB]

So we all dwell in nothingness until we are called back to reincarnate on earth? Also is it nothingness that causes amnesia which is why we don't remember our past lives?

 

[goomsoom]

So we all dwell in nothingness until we are called back to reincarnate on earth? Also is it nothingness that causes amnesia which is why we don't remember our past lives?

Obviously this is my perspective our body changes forms. Your life, experiences everything ends as soon as your brain stops working, our body is made up of trillions of cells and our brain controls it all. No dwelling, no rebirth, no one calls you anywhere just nothing. Its a chemical process it will happen regardless if you do ctb or die naturally. The whole 'we' thing is our memory stored in our brain. You had an accident brain damage oops 'we' is gone now you are a new born. Twins look same but their memories stored in the brains make them different.

Nothingness doesn't cause diseases like how it even can? its literally nothing. You are imagining it as some blank space before your next life starts but its nothing not even blank space. Like any other body part your brains stops working properly and you forget things. You cannot remember your past live because most likely you never existed before in your current form and if you did like infinite years ago your brain with your memories decomposed after you died.

Ex- You are a deer, lion hunts you eats you, remaining flesh is eaten by hyenas, vultures, other worms (whatever that white thing is called i cannot remember) etc. So yeah Next day some part of 'you' reincarnate back on earth in form of poop of different animals, actually you never left earth. - A ridiculous but real example.

Parts of 'you' mixed with other parts of many different things overtime will become part of some living organism. 'You' are nothing 'you' don't exist anymore.

Easy example - Imagine Kim goes rogue and decide to flat everything. Humans go extinct like dinosaurs only some scary single cell organisms remain alive in deep sea. Thats nothingness.

 

[Naysha]

you are right, we can't prove it but still science has gotten far enough to hint there is nothing. Unlike the Bible, which is written by humans to control the masses. There is exactly zero credibility in it.

no need to be scared of nothingness because there will be no consciosness to perceive the nothingness. It's like going to bed and sleep so deeply that the next morning you just remember how you went to bed but nothing after.

Except dying is not like falling asleep. Just visited my dying grandfather and it's not pleasant at all. He wasn't living unhealthily either yet disease of old age ravaged him. Honestly people play off death like it's not a big deal one way or another. It is, the transition from living to dying is no lightly matter. Not to mention the 80 years of torture before that which is basically you slowly dying. I want to die because no matter what I'll do it will all disappear, all the people I love and eventually if I wouldn't kill myself I would find myself on death bed with immense anxiety and pain.

 

[marcusuk63]

When i had my 1st motorbike crash i was UNconscious for 3 days , when i came round i could remember nothing from putting my helmet on to waking up in Hospital and not remembering how to speak .
So IMO you are UNconscious forever and ever , You are no more , you have shuffled off this mortal coil .

 

[Wayfaerer]

What if when the universe dies another big bang happens again? What if this cycle is infinite? Maybe you get recycled and born again infinitely. Maybe in this sense, reincarnation is true.

That is what I fear most. Living my life once was hard enough, but infinitely? Horrifying.

 

[justwantdeath]

That is what I fear most. Living my life once was hard enough, but infinitely? Horrifying.

You wouldn't remember how shitty your previous life was and you may get to be reborn as something more simple like a dinosaur!

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Hopefully @WhyIsLife56 will post something here when she comes back. Her profile says she's taking a little break from the forum.

@goomsoom @BlueWidow
I decided I'd leave a little answer here before I leave ❤

There has been some theories about dinosaurs evolving to birds, as in dinosaurs haven't gone completely extinct. (They say birds evolved from dinosaurs, specifically from the Theropod dinosaurs)
I believe as long as nature exists some form of life will evolve from another form of life. Like how humans evolved from apes when they could've just stopped at apes. Why evolve, right? Why evolve to humans? Why specifically humans with a consciousness?

I came across this quote earlier,

"The whole universe is rotting to nothingness and life is just a worthless byproduct that rots to nothingness in a special, but worse way then the rest, because it is sentient."

This quote, I believe, sums up everything in a concise way about the universe.

 

[freaky3600]

I have no clue what's out there but I love the idea from the 1983 movie Brainstorm. Basically you can revisit memories from your conscience and explore your entire life's memories and the universe itself. It's very idyllic.

If you haven't seen the movie, I highly recommend it.

Spoiler: Brainstorm Trailer

 

[goomsoom]

@goomsoom @BlueWidow
I decided I'd leave a little answer here before I leave ❤

There has been some theories about dinosaurs evolving to birds, as in dinosaurs haven't gone completely extinct. (They say birds evolved from dinosaurs, specifically from the Theropod dinosaurs)
I believe as long as nature exists some form of life will evolve from another form of life. Like how humans evolved from apes when they could've just stopped at apes. Why evolve, right? Why evolve to humans? Why specifically humans with a consciousness?

I came across this quote earlier,

"The whole universe is rotting to nothingness and life is just a worthless byproduct that rots to nothingness in a special, but worse way then the rest, because it is sentient."

This quote, I believe, sums up everything in a concise way about the universe.

Aw thank you so much for replying.

Yes, I also believe everything changes its form but never completely become nothing. Its an meaning less journey, it will much better if we become a rock without consciousness because we cannot control our existence.

the First Law of Thermodynamics shows us that nothing in the physical universe can create or destroy that matter or energy. If nothing natural can create matter or energy, then something supernatural must have created them.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Aw thank you so much for replying.

Yes, I also believe everything changes its form but never completely become nothing. Its an meaning less journey, it will much better if we become a rock without consciousness because we cannot control our existence.

Non existence would be better. And sooner or later that's what everything, including animals and plants as will as nature itself will become--nothing.

 

[goomsoom]

Non existence would be better. And sooner or later that's what everything, including animals and plants as will as nature itself will become--nothing.

Yes, that will be best but I cannot comprehend how anything came into existence from nothing.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Yes, that will be best but I cannot comprehend how anything came into existence from nothing.

Have you heard of Gnosticism? They theorized that an evil Demiurge created the universe. It would make sense if there was one.

 

[goomsoom]

I will read about it. It makes sense there is something super natural and evil who would create a meaningless universe.

 

[KadathianStr1d3r]

The conscious experience is simply a pre-calculated system upon systems of electrical synapses and pulses produced by the grey matter that is our brain ,wever I did said pre-calculated and often if one takes a look at the state of the fateful organism called Life one can see that it always seem to repeat certain things, the same can be said about Humans.
What happens after death may have a greater effect than we actually thought on of the procreation of Human life itself; let me explain.
Let's say that going by statistics that for every death of a person it may affect in whatever amount of grief or glee around 100 people, these 100 people have in some way been influenced in a little or great way by the death of this particular person that it has altered their actions in the coming days proceeding said news of the post-mortem.
The following actions of these 100 groupers can be affected in some way that it directs either one of the 100 persons of the initial group or somebody outside of the 100 group that had their own actions altered by one of the members of the 100 group people that it steers whomever it be towards the pattern direction that will inevitably lead to procreation of a new human life. One is after all a very powerful number when takes a second look at it's importance because without One there can never be no One Hundred and with a sudden Negative One the one hundred becomes 99 to which every single number becomes affected in it's mathmatical value in some way or form that the repeated calculation will be inevitably performed that will bring about a new One that becomes part of the 100 or more.
Just ignore that pseudo-intellectual bullshit I made up there but what I am trying to say is that maybe our consciousness is actually a form of biological software that tends to repeat itself over the course of a organic time and there may be a chance that death itself will inevitably affect 100 or more people's behavioral actions that will lead to procreation of a new life that may possibly be the rebirth of the one that died in the first place.
There is too much in mathematical science that isn't really being used to make life seem more exhilarating and the possible end all fear cure to death itself to which I will promptly admit that I reject the idea of nothingness after death seeing as how we still don't know enough about both the universe and the very foundation of life itself, there is too much in the unknown placidity to make solid conclusion worthy of buoyancy.

 

[Conker]

So we all dwell in nothingness until we are called back to reincarnate on earth? Also is it nothingness that causes amnesia which is why we don't remember our past lives?

Amnesia is a mystery in and of itself, I've often wondered whether or not it's an artificial process imposed on us or a natural symptom of the original design. Doesn't trauma have a tendency to make people forget? Mystery & Misery are not only very similar words but also have overlapping ciphers. You can't keep on churning out such gargantuan amounts of grief & scars without maintaining an age of mass mystery like the one we find ourselves in.

This is like a deeply traumatized species stumbling in the darkness. Most don't know what they're doing, I suspect that perhaps this world has been turned into a soul trafficking farm. English is the language of the enemy.

 

[Alucard]

Nothingness.

 

[Walilamdzi]

 

[Raminiki]

Logic is that it's nothingness. I mostly believe it's nothingness. It makes the most sense. I hope it's nothingness because that is the ultimate escape from suffering. I have, however, witnessed my personal thoughts, experiences, memories, understood and relayed back to me by another. How can my private consciousness be examined by another if it doesn't exist outside of my body? Details spoken back to me I've shared with no other. This person I'd met that same day was the first and only one to recognise my suicidality and speak it. My family hadn't noticed in years of living with me, yet this stranger knew what I was hiding right away. Read me like a book. That's one of many bizzare instances. Too many examples of very private, very personal observations to call it trickery. I don't understand how it can be possible, but there are people that can get in your head with you and it's kinda terrifying. And you can get in the head of others too, even if you're not 'gifted'. I've done it unintentionally. Nobody can believe in this preposterous nonsense unless they've been through it personally. I don't know what to conclude.

 

[Stavrogin]

We ultimately don't know; everything is possible; it's all a matter of faith; place your bets.

 

[Borabora]

As I approach my ctb date, I wonder about consciousness too. I read from people who had near death experiences, that they were aware of their consciousness.
I read that "death is like going from one room to another room." Some said that they saw themselves seeing their own bodies! I cannot wait to see for myself.
Hope my ctb is quick and that I will somehow know to follow the 'white light.' Hope my good friend (C) or (E)-ctb'ed will be there to greet me. I want to spend all my time in the Akashic Records where I will find out what my purpose was on Earth & absorb as much knowledge about the nature of reality as I am permitted.

 

[Dude1983]

I think God is everything, humans, animals, bugs, i think he experiment and knows every conscience at the same time, all at same time present past and future, but then there must be the isolated part because we are isolated consciences (u are not me, and im not u, atleast until we die..), so my opinion is that we are that isolated experiences that God is having.

So in this way, when u die u will know the life u just had, but u will also know the life of everyone else just as if u would have been them , not u.

so at the end u are God himself ..LOL

 

[person123]

Nonexistence.

 

[HeavensOpenDoor]

So I think it's pretty safe to say that I'm the minority in this thread lol. I've been channeling for the past few years, I've remote viewed, had out-of-body experiences, pre cognitive dreams etc. All things that seemingly defy the physics of space and time.

What happens is your consciousness starts to shift in phases. It shifts into a deep dream-like state, then ever so slightly into what I call the between incarnation state. In this state you are still in this vibrational level but you are psychically more aware of who you really are at a soul (soul= personal collective database of spontaneous emotional attitudes) level. From then you can chose to prepare for another incarnation, or move on to a different vibrational level. This choice is based upon your feelings and beliefs with a foundation of unconditional love. In the case of ctb you can alter your consciousness even further and leave this vibrational level temporary or permanently your choice. However, you quickly realize that what you experienced here on Earth was all an illusion and just a small drop in a bucket. There is no judgement either way, no god judging or condemning whatever your choice may be. You are loved regardless.

If you believe there is no god, you will find yourself in an environment where beings believe as you do. If you believe there is a God -lets say a xtian god then you will find yourself in an environment similar to a Heaven-like realm in this between incarnational state. You create your reality based upon your beliefs and that's true in this meat suit or outside of it. You cannot destroy energy. There's just a transmutation that takes place. And freewill is always present in every instant in the body or out of it.

Death is an illusion. Your consciousness just shifts in awareness. You just become aware of a different reality based upon your freewill belief systems. The interesting thing is that what people believe in their meat suit here on Earth, when they make that transition (death) they usually alter their beliefs because what they thought they knew was not the reality they would really like to experience.

Just like in school, learning is cumulative. You progress through different grades.

 

[JustovertheBS]

I had a NDE. Posted on a Facebook site. Will share it here if allowed. It is fn awesome on the other side. Trust me! That's why I don't fear death at all. No judgement please. This happened to me when I was 20. I had lost a child at 14 and I saw him there. NDE's are the real deal my friends. Heaven ( or whatever you choose to call it ) is real. I can share but want to know its allowed here. Its definitely off topic. If interested plz let me know and if it's ok to post.

 

[person123]

I had a NDE. Posted on a Facebook site. Will share it here if allowed. It is fn awesome on the other side. Trust me! That's why I don't fear death at all. No judgement please. This happened to me when I was 20. I had lost a child at 14 and I saw him there. NDE's are the real deal my friends. Heaven ( or whatever you choose to call it ) is real. I can share but want to know its allowed here. Its definitely off topic. If interested plz let me know and if it's ok to post.

Why were we born here then?

 

[Deleted member 17949]

idk about you guys but I'm going to be ascending, gaining the ability to do mental addition and other crazy stuff

more seriously I think life is meaningless and we get nothing when we die

 

[JustovertheBS]

To evolve..to learn. We have many lives...yes reincarnation. We can stay, or come back to grow and learn more and more. Not asking anyone to believe me but this is what I learned during NDE.

 

[person123]

To evolve..to learn. We have many lives...yes reincarnation. We can stay, or come back to grow and learn more and more. Not asking anyone to believe me but this is what I learned during NDE.

How does reincarnation work with your suicide?