Discussion What do you think happens after death?

[Cyc]

I've read some stories of near death experiences and some people report seeing light or a tunnel which makes me think that there could be something, but it also could just be the brain trying to get ready for death
Personally I hope there'll be nothing after death. No afterlife, no rebirth, nothing. I want to be gone forever.

 

[39hatsune]

personally, i think those people were just imagining it, and saw what they wanted to

i dont think theres anything- probably just nothing, like it was before we were born

i dont mind it at all really, i think that might be a good option lol

 

[Cyc]

personally, i think those people were just imagining it, and saw what they wanted to

i dont think theres anything- probably just nothing, like it was before we were born

i dont mind it at all really, i think that might be a good option lol

I agree it's the best option. No more suffering for eternity

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

Unconsciousness, which is basically unimaginable. The only way we experience it is jumping forward in time. But that won't happen.

 

[BlendedHeart]

Same thing as before I was born: The sweet, sweet unconsciousness.

At least that's what I hope for. No reincarnation, no eternal return, no heaven, no hell, no anything else. I've had enough.

 

[badatparties]

All NDEs share commonalities but are too varied to be any sort of a proof. The commonalities just seem like a thing your brain does during death. I lean towards non existence, but you never know for sure. No one has the answers.

 

[sshine]

If suicide meant you'd reincarnate in one of the 135 million babies born each year ,would you still do it?

This question just put doubts in me. As shitty as my life may be, it forces me to acknowledge that I'm in a far privileged situation to countless kids worldwide. I'll just pray reincarnation doesn't exist because if forced to choose between living their life or my current one,as suicidal as I...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[merlinscries]

NDEs might be just your brain releasing DMT. There are structural similarities between DMT experiences and near death experiences. Basically ego death. Physical death is the complete cessation of (your) consciousness.

 

[FuneralCry]

All I wish and hope for is the true permanent peace of non-existence where this dreadful, cruel and deeply undesirable existence is finally all gone and forgotten about, in this torturous existence of endless suffering where there is no limit as to how much one can be tortured non-existence is just all I could ever see as positive.

I just want some peace from the terrible suffering and torture of existing where there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel, I'll always see existence as an abomination, to me existence is just the most terrible mistake that only ever causes all this torture, harm and suffering with existing beings in agony every second, all I want is the peace of non-existence to solve everything for me, I just want to never suffer ever again.

 

[thefarter]

suffering or peace in the grave.. kinda like purgatory. if you have more good deeds, you get blessings. alternatively if u have more bad deeds, u get punished.
uhh and then that continues until the end of the world (day of judgement).
and then if you were of sound mind when you killed yourself, you will most likely end up in hell for eternity.
if you weren't of sound mind, your suicide is excused and you may not end up in hell. i assume it depends on the rest of your record.

only God knows thou

 

[prompt_critical]

I try to look at it like this. Consciousness is truly a mystery. But...

Memory can be destroyed
Senses can be destroyed
Ability to think can be destroyed
Ability to feel emotions can be destroyed

All by destroying various parts of the brain. So if all that is gone (which is demonstrable), what exactly is left?

 

[yotaka]

Seems like lots of folks here (myself included) are pretty much on the same page, which I find interesting. I wonder if there's any kind of statistical correlation between suicidality and lack of belief in an afterlife.

The way I tend to explain myself is: I don't know that there's no afterlife, but I strongly suspect it. Traditional religious ideas of life after death don't make any sense to me, at least not as far as I understand them. In particular, I find the idea of punishment or eternal suffering completely absurd. If there is anything beyond this, I think it must be incomprehensible to us as we are right now.

I find the idea of panpsychism interesting and think it could be relevant to discussions like this, but I'm by no means an expert.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

I wonder if there's any kind of statistical correlation between suicidality and lack of belief in an afterlife.

I'm just pulling this out of my butt but I suspect suicides expect relief after death, some kind of peaceful, sleeplike or even dreamlike state. If you really reflect on unconsciousness it gives you pause. All you have is your conscious life. Suicide just ends it. As much as I'd like there to be some relief after, and I'll probably delude myself to some extent into thinking there is, there isn't. This life is your experience. Disappointing.

 

[finaldestination22]

I really suggest you read Imagine Heaven by John Burke, it sent me into a rabbit hole for years also helping to disover all the mess around the world and the elite that runs it. There is also a second part Imagine the God of Heaven I have it shipped tomorrow and will probably finish it all in a couple of days. It's no religious doctrine or anything like that, just lots of real verified NDE's and it could very well be a Netflix movie from all that stories.
Definitely not a boring read and I personally believe them and it really opens your eyes. 100% recommend it

 

[capi]

I'm just pulling this out of my butt but I suspect suicides expect relief after death, some kind of peaceful, sleeplike or even dreamlike state. If you really reflect on unconsciousness it gives you pause. All you have is your conscious life. Suicide just ends it. As much as I'd like there to be some relief after, and I'll probably delude myself to some extent into thinking there is, there isn't. This life is your experience. Disappointing.

I try to look at it like this. Consciousness is truly a mystery. But...

Memory can be destroyed
Senses can be destroyed
Ability to think can be destroyed
Ability to feel emotions can be destroyed

All by destroying various parts of the brain. So if all that is gone (which is demonstrable), what exactly is left?

yep, after studying death for a while these are the conclusions ive came to.
there is one argument that can be made that nothingness quite literally doesnt exist, so consciousness would continue somewhere else. which makes sense because.. nothing is nothing, so nothing doesnt exist.

but, an argument you could make against that; is if you broke an individual ceramic vase into pieces, even though the clay fragments exist, the vase itself existing is now nothing, and its impossible to make that exact configuration again where the atoms are in the same exact spots. the original vase is forever gone, even if you remolded it using the same clay. just like our original consciousness would be forever gone.

unless of course this universe is infinite and cyclical which means the exact same atom arrangement could happen again idk but most science points to a heat death.

 

[Arlowantsushi]

Honestly i hope nothing happens.
i think the sweet nothing is kinda a beautiful end.
i feel like any other option leaves chance for even more pain yk.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

but, an argument you could make against that; is if you broke an individual ceramic vase into pieces, even though the clay fragments exist, the vase itself existing is now nothing, and its impossible to make that exact configuration again where the atoms are in the same exact spots. the original vase is forever gone, even if you remolded it using the same clay. just like our original consciousness would be forever gone.

Yeah. All kinds of things that used to exist now don't, so that "nothing is nothing" bit doesn't seem applicable. My body will break apart, energy will be released as it decomposes, etc.

 

[yotaka]

I'm just pulling this out of my butt but I suspect suicides expect relief after death, some kind of peaceful, sleeplike or even dreamlike state. If you really reflect on unconsciousness it gives you pause. All you have is your conscious life. Suicide just ends it. As much as I'd like there to be some relief after, and I'll probably delude myself to some extent into thinking there is, there isn't. This life is your experience. Disappointing.

You make a good point. Thinking about non-existence in the abstract is one thing. But, as I'm sure you (and many others here) are all too aware, actually standing face to face with it is terrifying. Beyond terrifying. Maybe theists have an easier time with suicide after all.

By the way, I hope I'm not coming off as saccharine with my talk about the possibility of an afterlife. Truthfully, I have a very hard time convincing myself that anything other than oblivion waits beyond this life, but for some reason with other people it's easier for me to say, "Well, maybe..."

 

[kufajoy]

Idk know what's after death but I believe there's nothing after death. At least I want to.