Discussion What comes next after death?

[Skyyyfarer 26]

I like to believe we either enter a perpetual dream state or our consciousness ceases to exist. Either way I've made peace with the fact that I don't know what comes after death.

 

[Prime0]

We simply cease existing, which is my only relief, everything else is bullshit.

 

[Pomegranate]

I like to believe we either enter a perpetual dream state or our consciousness ceases to exist. Either way I've made peace with the fact that I don't know what comes after death.

Can you please elaborate on how you've come to peace with what's after death? I have a perpetual fear of hell that's been terrorizing me for months, so any help is appreciated

 

[Prime0]

Can you please elaborate on how you've come to peace with what's after death? I have a perpetual fear of hell that's been terrorizing me for months, so any help is appreciated

You don't need to worry about that anyway, hell and heaven are man made, scientificaly speaking they're impossible to exist, our consciousness is made in our mind (brain) which means if our brain stops working our consciousness cease to exist, we stop perceiving things.
We're only biological creatures, spirituality is total bullshit and there's no single proof that it's true.
I just wish that this world was a better place where people weren't indoctrinated by religious dogma and being afraid of death due to that, but unfortunately that's the kind of world we live in, for some reason, despite non existence not being bad (heck subjectively speaking even good in some ways) people are afraid of nothingness, which is probably why they procreate anyway.
You come in peace with "what's" after death when you totally realize that dogmas taught to you are false, every living being only exists at this "current" moment, we don't have any connection with the past (aside our memories which is a different thing) nor with the future, when we're gone it's all over fortunately.

 

[ctb-soon]

What do you think, are we born again after death? Some say for suicide you will get into hell, is this true? Or at least things don't get better, you will keep your problems although you are dead. I want to do suicide in order my problems are away. I don't want to worsen the situation.

I am sorry you are going through this. But I believe you do not exist after you CTB. Nothing

 

[leavingsoon99]

The Eternal Beautiful.

 

[ForsakenShadow]

Nothing. I hope

 

[Homo erectus]

What are you trying to get at here? You think the afterlife will suck or that it's just completely impossible?
I think the whole going to heaven or hell thing, still with your own body.. yeah I don't know.

ok you've convinced me.. I 100% need to do psychedelics before I ctb.

Nde, psychedelics, sensory deprivation are probably gateways to other worlds. There many well polished caves around the world. They are probably used for sensory deprivation and spiritual travel. While one can travel out, others can also travel in. Many people are reported to have become a different person after nde.

 

[drownll]

When the body is no more, you enter your imagination.
So the afterlife is like a lucid dream, but without "glitches" when the brain is involved, a smooth and stable lucid dream, a new boundless reality.
See it as a realistic solo offline rpg game, you can use cheats and mods there is no rule. And the npcs, despite not having a soul like you, (not being controlled by external entities that are the players, but entities born directly in the games code) And this life is an mmo, it's online so you play with other people like you that you cannot control, there are rules and anti cheat, and you are weak and vulnerable.
When you're tired of this solo rpg without limits, you can wish to erase your mind, it's the second death. You killed your body (you then left the physical plane), you killed your mind (you then left the mental plane), what remains now is your core, your True self, the indestructible thing in which all layers of reality are built on. Basically you return to THE ALL, it's an absolute state that absolutely cannot be described. But this state is not eternal as nothing is eternal and everything is cycling, so then the layers are built again and realities are formed.

Keep in mind these things are impossible to describe or explained in words, it's very simplified, planes of existence are more like a spectrum.

 

[Darkover]

just like before you was dragged into hell you was nothing upon death we return this nothingness
death is simple not existing at all or is it a long sleep from which we awake at some point again
time will tell, maybe nothing forever or rebirth

now imagine we was inside a computer simulation do you really think knowing your built from math you can really die forever

 

[Davey36000]

Near-death experiences are well-documented and are the product of significant brain activity. There's no biblical or mythological truth to it. People hallucinate before they die and that's it. We've had concepts of the underworld and afterlife before Zoroastrians and Jews took up the concept of hell. It's all made-up.

That is what you believe, not the truth.

 

[dudeman]

how tf do we know? nobody knows, useless, useless question nobody have the answer for

People are allowed to speculate, there probably isn't anything else afterwards but it's fun hearing other peoples thoughts

 

[Generic_Account]

post hominis, vermis

 

[Davey36000]

1) People who had an nde, remember it, and tell others.

2) You can ignore people who sell their nde's for profit or any other personal gain.

3) You are still left with thousands of very similar nde reports.

4) Nderf.org has many reports, many from anonymous sources.

Just need to look at it with an open mind.

 

[ringo99]

Hopefully nothing

 

[Skyyyfarer 26]

Can you please elaborate on how you've come to peace with what's after death? I have a perpetual fear of hell that's been terrorizing me for months, so any help is appreciated

I don't know if I would be of much help here because my family wasn't religious growing up and I'm an atheist so I pretty much never believed in heaven or hell to begin with?
Idk if that answers your question

You don't need to worry about that anyway, hell and heaven are man made, scientificaly speaking they're impossible to exist, our consciousness is made in our mind (brain) which means if our brain stops working our consciousness cease to exist, we stop perceiving things.
We're only biological creatures, spirituality is total bullshit and there's no single proof that it's true.
I just wish that this world was a better place where people weren't indoctrinated by religious dogma and being afraid of death due to that, but unfortunately that's the kind of world we live in, for some reason, despite non existence not being bad (heck subjectively speaking even good in some ways) people are afraid of nothingness, which is probably why they procreate anyway.
You come in peace with "what's" after death when you totally realize that dogmas taught to you are false, every living being only exists at this "current" moment, we don't have any connection with the past (aside our memories which is a different thing) nor with the future, when we're gone it's all over fortunately.

Yes! You couldn't have verbalised this any more accurately!
I guess what I meant by "coming to peace" is that I have accepted or rather prefer that nothingness over living.

 

[moribundbody]

I hope nothing happens, however no one knows.

 

[shantyizlit]

People who are on this forum are probably not into this topic but I think it sounds interesting sometimes


Your post reminded me of this YouTube vid. Turn subtitles to understand (unless you happen to be Greek). The talk from 9:50 - 14:16 in particular is semi-relevant to both this thread and your post. I had become interested in religion (Eastern Orthodox Christianity particularly) around 3 years ago. I considered starting to observe it and baptizing, although nothing came of that. A bit after starting to become interested in it I also had a period in my life where I was lurking on this site a lot and some parts of the vid stuck with me because it had some theological discussions on death which somewhat coincided a bit with my interest in suicide at the time. That was about 2 years ago.

Although you are probably joking

I think metaphysics and theology can be cool. Some truly noble people who also completely dedicate their life to it are interesting sometimes, although, in-general, I can't understand the implications of that way of life

I wasn't joking I really do have a feeling of longing for that time in the past

Nde, psychedelics, sensory deprivation are probably gateways to other worlds. There many well polished caves around the world. They are probably used for sensory deprivation and spiritual travel. While one can travel out, others can also travel in. Many people are reported to have become a different person after nde.

yeah it makes a lot of sense to change after something as wild as an NDE lol

 

[CTB2023]

I wasn't joking I really do have a feeling of longing for that time in the past

just be a neet and its basically the same thing

 

[shantyizlit]

just be a neet and its basically the same thing

Been a NEET for 8 years buddy this shit sucks

 

[CTB2023]

Been a NEET for 8 years buddy this shit sucks

how do you afford drugs then?

 

[Namensjemand]

Consciousness, as energy, is IMO an inherent quality of existence and like energy can not die but only transform.

To me, that is self-evident and at least can be argued and defended as a POV really well.

What I reject is the materialist POV that consciousness is just a weird byproduct of a bio computer. That makes no sense whatsoever.

However, this doesn't answer the question what such a transformation actually means. Reincarnation? Return to some formless overconscioussness? Or a mere despertion of concentrated consciousness into the elements of a dead and quickly decaying body? To that I got no answer.

 

[shantyizlit]

how do you afford drugs then?

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'Huge'(by my standards) monthly welfare check. I can easily cruise by in life on this, and at this point I have a shit ton (by my standards) of money saved up which I can just spend on whatever the fuck I want before I ctb.

 

[Sichi]

That, my dear, remains as one of the mysteries of the universe. I'd like to believe that there's nothing after death tho. The thought is comforting.

 

[アホペンギン]

Its impossible to know for sure what happens after death, anyone who dies can't just come back to life and tell their experiences. I assume that after death, you're alone with your thoughts in a black void. For most people, being in this situation would be undesirable but for me, it brings me comfort that i'd have that instead of being alive. Anyone can interpret what is after death in their own ways but there is no way to actually verify it. All I can tell you is that you should form your own opinion, whatever suits you best.

 

[iDieUDie80]

That is what you believe, not the truth.

Everything I said is supported by the evidence. If NDEs are evidence for your god, why does everyone hallucinate something different? Especially something relevant to their own culture or religion in different parts of the world?

 

[mafuyu]

i assume it's like when you're in the womb

 

[wagner2029]

of course nobody is going to say that suicide is good, otherwise there would be suicide epidemics. Another point is that we evolve millions of years to live, this affliction when facing death is normal, I couldn't do it that night, I'm ready, but when it's time to open the valve I froze, I can't live, I can't die, I'm feeling a greater affliction than usual, maybe I'll manage later, I'm going to buy a diving mask, I believe that will work, I couldn't put the plastic on my head.

 

[Pardoe84]

Is it possible that we get punished for doing suicide in after life?

My mom says if it would be so easy, everyone could do this.

My neighbour suffered from such big pain everyday and no painkiller was working for that, so he shooted himself. I can understand him. What should he do, if he cannot endure the pain and suicid is no solution, so where is the way to get out from this?

 

[SlenderM]

Technically I like to think we app become reincarnated one day, millions of years in the future, after the universe has reset itself and humans are recreated. It's probably just darkness until then tho, like how you feel from ages 0 - 1, just mindless darkness.

- S