Trying to get the nature of this forum..about suicide or psychiatry bashing??

[LastFlowers]

Just try to ignore them.

Many people here have had terrible experiences. Some may be making shit up or projecting their illness or hate onto their provider. I suspect some people here are struggling with undiagnosed psychoses and see their doctors as part of a conspiracy. That is their illness, not who they are.

Some folks, like me, have had both good and lousy providers. I love to talk about the psychiatrist I had in another location. He was awesome and saved my life when it was worth saving. Had I not moved, I would have stayed his patient forever. Many, many folks here have read that sentence before, so I don't post it as much as I used to.

The thing to remember is that this is a public forum and it may skew one way or another, depending on the day. For a more positive slant, you may want to visit the recovery board. It's not pro-life, per se, but a reflection of where folks are right now on their journeys.

There is a lot of information here and much of it is useful. The trick is figuring out how to take what you need and leave the rest behind, much as you would on any other site.

One day is not a lot of time to decide who we are here. I hope you'll look around a bit more before deciding there's nothing here for you.

…hmm..that first paragraph is a bit dismissive, no? And presumptive..
I have only seen a handful of people over the course of my time on this site, who displayed genuine signs of psychosis or gave me reason to doubt their experiences with the system.
Also, if the conspiracy theorists were to be right about anything, psychiatry ain't a bad place to start.

Don't jump to dehumanize people, reducing their passion against something harmful into that being "their illness" and "not who they are", ironically this is what many Psychiatrists and Psychologists do, and it's part of the problem.
So I request that people not brush off other's stories, experiences, or damage just because they may have a certain tone or way about their words, which could be incited by the hell they endured from their time with these so called professionals rather than being symptomatic of some mental disorder made up, at whim, for the DSM.

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

…hmm..that first paragraph is a bit dismissive, no? And presumptive..
I have only seen a handful of people over the course of my time on this site, who displayed genuine signs of psychosis or gave me reason to doubt their experiences with the system.
Also, if the conspiracy theorists were to be right about anything, psychiatry ain't a bad place to start.

Don't jump to dehumanize people, reducing their passion against something harmful into that being "their illness" and "not who they are", ironically this is what many Psychiatrists and Psychologists do, and it's part of the problem.
So I request that people not brush off other's stories, experiences, or damage just because they may have a certain tone or way about their words, which could be incited by the hell they endured from their time with these so called professionals rather than being symptomatic of some mental disorder made up, at whim, for the DSM.

You don't think that exact same thing was done to me? I was jumped on before anyone actually asked me more details of my story or why I was here.

 

[Snake of Eden]

You don't think that exact same thing was done to me? I was jumped on before anyone actually asked me more details of my story or why I was here.

You espoused a certain viewpoint which was safe for people to assume where you were coming from. I dont see any sort of injustice done to you based on what you have been saying. Again if you have stories to share you are welcomed to do so even when you started with a very inaccurate generalization and presumption on what kind of rhetoric is espoused about psychiatry in the forum. In other words you werent jumped out of thin air. One person called psychiatrists murderers and torturers and you decided that this is the general view of the forum. People including myself jumped to correct that and clear up any confusion you may have and to show whoever is watching that its not accurate the way you felt thats all

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

I don't see it as bashing, I see it as valid criticisms.

You had a different experience from them, and perhaps you had a different starting point and issues more suited for the field to address. However both practices of Psychiatry and Psychology (as a diagnostic tool) are rife with issues that should not ever be swept under the rug.
For a lot of individuals, these doctors and what they have to "offer" (or force) deserve the vitriol.

As for a lack of ill intentions on the Psychiatrist's part..
Remember what the road to hell was paved with?

This is so wrong. Thanks for the judgement. You have no idea what I've been through.

 

[Snake of Eden]

This is so wrong. Thanks for the judgement. You have no idea what I've been through.

I dont get what are you trying to accomplish by making comments critisizing what you have said look like as somewhat of personal injustices against you. We get it. You too had bad experiences with psychaitry. What more would you like to add?

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

You espoused a certain viewpoint which was safe for people to assume where you were coming from. I dont see any sort of injustice done to you based on what you have been saying. Again if you have stories to share you are welcomed to do so even when you started with a very inaccurate generalization and presumption on what kind of rhetoric is espoused about psychiatry in the forum. In other words you werent jumped out of thin air. One person called psychiatrists murderers and torturers and you decided that this is the general view of the forum. People including myself jumped to correct that and clear up any confusion you may have and to show whoever is watching that its not accurate the way you felt thats all

No i did not state that this was the general view of the forum. I asked it as a question. I made no accusations. Then I got accused of being "pro life". Then I got judged for being a healthcare worker. I got judged for seeming to have a positive experience with psychiatry when I clearly named that I had experienced many problems with the field over the course of trying for 22 years so far including permanent damage. But yes jump on me because clearly all my thoughts toward psychiatry are positive.

I don't understand your last sentence "it's not accurate the way you felt" ??

How is that a validating statement? The way I'm reading it you're saying the way I felt wasn't accurate. Aren't you dismissing the way I felt than which is exactly what you're encouraging people not to do?

I dont get what are you trying to accomplish by making comments critisizing what you have said look like as somewhat of personal injustices against you. We get it. You too had bad experiences with psychaitry. What more would you like to add?

I'm responding to the posts on my forum? Isn't that the purpose of this

 

[Snake of Eden]

I don't understand your last sentence "it's not accurate the way you felt" ??

How is that a validating statement? The way I'm reading it you're saying the way I felt wasn't accurate. Aren't you dismissing the way I felt than which is exactly what you're encouraging people not to do?

I'm responding to the posts on my forum? Isn't that the purpose of this

I am not going to validate your presumption that many users here see psychiatrists as murders and torturers as you inaccurately stated in your OP because that is not true. We preach validation and tolerance for people's own experiences as means of actually listening and understanding them for what how they feel. You wont even accept that you were basing your assumption on one post and you keep on saying I just asked a question and everyone jump on me. Well you got your answer but you wont acknowledge the part where you were wrong. I am not going to validate that. If you have personal stories to share then we are here to listen and validate you about them but perpetually crying around being invalidated over your simple question how you saw it when you started the thread and people jumping you, will not get you much sympathy around here

 

[Snake of Eden]

I'm responding to the posts on my forum? Isn't that the purpose of this

Not once you attempted to acknowledge that your generalization about the forum attitude towards psychiatry is inaccurate or rash. It is hard to sympathize with your cause after everyone here explained to you how dimissive and inaccurate you sounded in your original post. And i still fail to understand why you keep saying i just asked a question I just asked a question and people jumped on me. What are you trying to exactly do here?

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

I am not going to validate your presumption that many users here see psychiatrists as murders and torturers as you inaccurately stated in your OP because that is not true. We preach validation and tolerance for people's own experiences as means of actually listening and understanding them for what how they feel. You wont even accept that you were basing your assumption on one post and you keep on saying I just asked a question and everyone jump on me. Well you got your answer but you wont acknowledge the part where you were wrong. I am not going to validate that. If you have personal stories to share then we are here to listen and validate you about them but perpetually crying around being invalidated over your simple question how you saw it when you started the thread and people jumping you, will not get you much sympathy around here

I don't believe all members think that psychiatrists are murderers. I brought up a post I saw. That was it.


"perpetually crying" ..Coming from the guy who preached I needed sensitivity not long ago .
Who is asking for sympathy? This sounds like a dictatorship. I'm asking people to back up their statements just like you've asked me to follow up on mine. So they get to make their statements and I don't get to ask for more specifics? What kind of a forum is this if you don't get to ask people for clarifications on their statements? No sympathy needed!

 

[lostautist]

I'm responding to the posts on my forum? Isn't that the purpose of this

At this point, you're the one perpetuating all of this by continuing to respond. To what end? There is a lot of good content on this site. Isn't this discussion settled?

 

[Mtnwildflowers]

At this point, you're the one perpetuating all of this by continuing to respond. To what end? There is a lot of good content on this site. Isn't this discussion settled?

Because people made so many posts I didn't even get to read because there were so many. Some of them are accusatory towards me. Saying that I have certain views that aren't true or things about me that aren't true. If you are going to make those statements, than at least tell me where specifically where I gave you these impressions and I can correct the false assumptions. Don't I get a chance to defend myself when someone makes a post talking about me?

 

[LastLoveLetter]

Following discussion with the Moderator team, I have locked this thread. The conversation has run its course and back and forth arguing is not constructive at this point. Thank you.