How did you get on? Did u try any other mat
Hi how did you get on. Did you try any other materials? Thanks
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Can you do this lying down? Do you have to try and put knot on catotid and stick anywhere. Thanks
Superfluous
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- Mar 16, 2019
- 973
You can certainly do this lying down. Have you read Five Last Acts? (available for download in the List of resources thread (sticky). Check out the section on Ligatures (tourniquet) in section 1. It should provide the answers you're looking for. If you still have questions, please feel free to post them.
Shananaginns
BeautifullyBroken
- Jan 11, 2019
- 26
To be 100% honest, I'm not so sure about God. I don't know anything for sure about the other side. I just know what I was taught and even that I'm not so sure about. I'm just saying that if it is all real, then I'm not afraid of being punished for killing myself. If God is truly who He is believed to be, then I/ we should have nothing to worry about. I often find myself wondering why He doesn't intervene if He knows how truly hurt and broken I am. I've been told that it's all tests and trials and then I'll come out stronger and blah blah blah but what I need is not a test or strength training. I need love and peace and hope for something better.
ZomGuy
Member
- Mar 1, 2019
- 86
I've been close to passing out using a scarf. But I think a scarf is pretty suboptimal. There's a case where someone succeeded using a fabric belt, so I'm going to try that. If you wanna tie a knot at the front, I guess you have to choose a pretty flexible material but I'm not too sure which. I recommend reading "The five last acts", there's a section explaining which materials work best.
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hi . Yes I'll re read that. Seemed today most things should work. Do you mean thin silk like scarf or thick one? He doesn't seem to say about knot placements but s knot best near carotid. Is that what you did? Thanks
ZomGuy
Member
- Mar 1, 2019
- 86
I've used a thick scarf but I think silk should work better. I almost passed out but it wasn't enough pressure and I couldn't do another rotation because the scarf wouldn't let me. I haven't tried using knots yet, but yeah I guess you should place the knot where the carotid artery is. And the better the material is, the more effective your knot will be. I would choose any of the most recommended materials and it should be fine.
Weems
Experienced
- May 5, 2019
- 204
HopelessFashionista
Member
- Jul 8, 2019
- 21
OK, so for the past two weeks, I've been trying this off and on, and I'm having the same trouble as some of you! I've watched videos, read detailed instructions, and as someone said, "your explanation is detailed, I just keep failing at it." That's me!
I guess it's just something that takes a lot of practice. I'm not doing the padding properly. Once I tighten the tourniquet enough, I start having trouble breathing. I've also padded too much and can't seem to initiate the dizziness. And my padding keeps shifting out of place. I used duct tape but still had trouble and then was quite aggravated having to pull the tape off over and over trying to get it right (and still failing).
I'm failing miserably on the execution of this method (pardon the pun)!
I really want to make it work, though. The inert gas method I think is too difficult for me. I'm afraid of getting any of these methods wrong. :/
Rocksandsand
Specialist
- May 26, 2019
- 396
I just had a muck around with this method with a wooden spoon and the twists were secured very well by the spoon lodging at my collar bone. But I didn't get any feeling remotely like loss of consciousness, or even increased pressure in my head. I have a fat neck - but what else could it be?
Admittedly it was very comfortable, all things considered. I was able to breathe the whole time
Admittedly it was very comfortable, all things considered. I was able to breathe the whole time
Does anyone have an archive of the now deleted photos? (also I cant access the hanging page)
i tried hanging myself with partial suspension. There was so much pressure on my neck that my windpipe was closed off. But I didnt even feel close to passing out. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
I made a few mistakes that were preventing me from get this method right, but now it does seem like it works, so I thought it was worth it to share, since this is a tricky method:
1.Not applying pressure before turning the tourniquet. That might seem obvious to some people, but before you start, make sure you are pulling the cord (or whatever you're using) with enough force against one of the sides of your neck, so that there is pressure against the carotid right from the get go. Don't start with the tourniquet just loosely wrapped against your neck, in the end the pressure won't be enough.
I tried to making a drawing so hopefully it's better to understand what I meant.
2. Taking everything too literally. Some people describe that they feel dizziness once there's enough pressure, I didn't quite feel that, so I assumed it wasn't working. I did feel something strange, sounds would fade out and I felt ... Dissociated? I'm not sure how to put it into words, but I thought that was not what I was supposed to be feeling and I was doing something wrong, but it actually was. When doing it in front of a mirror, I can see my face turn blue and veins popping out of my forehead, so it's certainly doing its thing. Also, 10 seconds is not enough for me to faint, so I would prematurely "undo" the tourniquet thinking it was not working. I just had to give it more time.
P.S.: I had no luck with a shoestring, but a nylon sock with a pen works just fine.
1.Not applying pressure before turning the tourniquet. That might seem obvious to some people, but before you start, make sure you are pulling the cord (or whatever you're using) with enough force against one of the sides of your neck, so that there is pressure against the carotid right from the get go. Don't start with the tourniquet just loosely wrapped against your neck, in the end the pressure won't be enough.
I tried to making a drawing so hopefully it's better to understand what I meant.
2. Taking everything too literally. Some people describe that they feel dizziness once there's enough pressure, I didn't quite feel that, so I assumed it wasn't working. I did feel something strange, sounds would fade out and I felt ... Dissociated? I'm not sure how to put it into words, but I thought that was not what I was supposed to be feeling and I was doing something wrong, but it actually was. When doing it in front of a mirror, I can see my face turn blue and veins popping out of my forehead, so it's certainly doing its thing. Also, 10 seconds is not enough for me to faint, so I would prematurely "undo" the tourniquet thinking it was not working. I just had to give it more time.
P.S.: I had no luck with a shoestring, but a nylon sock with a pen works just fine.
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Method won't work, your si will kick in everytime, the better way would be a motor that keep fastening your ligature so that you won't be able to interfere with.
Tourniquet works just as OP has described.
I managed to get the light-headedness/euphoria in a matter of seconds, that i have not been able to achieve with a modified night-night method or with partial suspension hanging. I was juts testing it for the first time, but since i know where my Carotids are and where to apply force it worked right away. Next couple attempts, due to moving the rope a bit up and down my neck i couldn't hit the "sweet spot". But i now know it is possible, and much more easier this way. I felt SI kick in for hte first time, and that was a wild ride.
I did it with a BDSM style hemp rope 6mm in diameter and a large wooden cooking spoon as the lever. You don't need a lot of rope to do it, that wayne gacy video posted earlier on is extremely informative.
I managed to get the light-headedness/euphoria in a matter of seconds, that i have not been able to achieve with a modified night-night method or with partial suspension hanging. I was juts testing it for the first time, but since i know where my Carotids are and where to apply force it worked right away. Next couple attempts, due to moving the rope a bit up and down my neck i couldn't hit the "sweet spot". But i now know it is possible, and much more easier this way. I felt SI kick in for hte first time, and that was a wild ride.
I did it with a BDSM style hemp rope 6mm in diameter and a large wooden cooking spoon as the lever. You don't need a lot of rope to do it, that wayne gacy video posted earlier on is extremely informative.
Edit: one more thing about knots. The Wayne gacy way worked when i tried it, but i think the reef knot tied around the lever is extra secure. This is also the knot discussed in the Five Last Acts book, although from the example given the elder woman killing herself in the hospital bed (pg 214 onwards) does NOT tie the knot AROUND the lever.
reef knot:
You might struggle with tying this knot with juts enough rope to allow three fingers width to the knot from your neck (as suggested by the book). In that case i would simply try using a bit more rope so you can tie the knot before hand and fit it over your head. If your knot is secure and your lever doesn't budge, a few extra cranks should not make any difference.
reef knot:
You might struggle with tying this knot with juts enough rope to allow three fingers width to the knot from your neck (as suggested by the book). In that case i would simply try using a bit more rope so you can tie the knot before hand and fit it over your head. If your knot is secure and your lever doesn't budge, a few extra cranks should not make any difference.
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I'd probably opt for something not as smooth just in the rare case a knot slips.
Akeolodo
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- Oct 13, 2019
- 62
Tasdevil
Student
- Jan 20, 2020
- 115
How reliable is this method compared to hanging? I have tried any method yet I am looking for a method that I can do without attracting attention as I don't live alone.
Ilikeshrimp
tired
- Feb 2, 2020
- 22
I feel a slight headache and also my teeth and parts of my face feel numb, but I can still breathe fine. I think that isn't how its supposed to feel but does anyone know if I'm close? I didn't tighten all the way because I wasn't sure if I did it right. I'm going to try again at night and I'll see what happens.
billyoudont
New Member
- Feb 19, 2020
- 4
I attempted this method several times over the course of a week, with varying degrees of success
My most successful attempt caused a temporary loss of vision, with stages in this order:
Anyone know if I was close at all, or whether I'm just completely off track? I'm planning to attempt again with a far firmer piece of cloth (wish I had rufflette as recommended in Five Last Acts). I really want this method to work, because it seems like an incredibly elegant and painless way to ctb.
My most successful attempt caused a temporary loss of vision, with stages in this order:
- Center of vision fading out
- Black shapes (cross between a diamond and the shape bounded by four equal radius circles that touch externally and are centered on each of the four corners of a square) pulsing and disappearing
- Center of vision goes black (looks like a tunnel)
- Everything starts to go white from the center out
- Pure white (but not a solid white) and faint colored curved mosaic type patterns with small pieces fading in and out of focus
Anyone know if I was close at all, or whether I'm just completely off track? I'm planning to attempt again with a far firmer piece of cloth (wish I had rufflette as recommended in Five Last Acts). I really want this method to work, because it seems like an incredibly elegant and painless way to ctb.
Hello,
I discovered the tourniquet method in the five last acts books and was immediately seduced by it: little materials required, unconsciousness happening quickly, no pain or discomfort, and from what I understand very efficient (it is even a high risk of accidental death in wrestling with choke-holds - or, sadly, with black people being killed during arrests in the US...).
So I tried to practice it, using a long scarf and a wooden spoon, but all I could obtain was this unpleasant swelling sensation in the head, due to insufficient strength of compression, compressing only the veins and not the arteries. Applying more pressure seemed impossible, and very painful, especially because it applied a lot of pressure on my Adam's apple, and I was nowhere near unconsciousness at any point. I don't know if it is my morphology or something else, there seem to be very little space between my Adam's apple and my jaw bone, but the recommendation of applying the rope above the Adam's apple was not for me. I was very disappointed and frustrated.
But yesterday I tried something else: put my scarf below my Adam's apple. And suddenly everything worked like a charm ! I was able to apply a lot of pressure, without feeling any discomfort (breathing without problem, no pain anywhere). When applying this amount of pressure, in a couple of seconds I felt an intense dizziness growing in me, with no swelling of the head at all. So I'm pretty sure I was able to cut the oxygen supply to my brain, and if I had continued, I would have passed out (I passed out a few times in my life, and it felt exactly the same). As I'm totally chicken-hearted, I did not pursue further, but I will definitely practice again this way, try to actually pass out in a way that when I do I let go of the spoon, to see if I can fight the survival instinct (probably the hardest part). But I have the feeling that it could be very quick, a matter of a few seconds. With the wooden spoon blocked by my shoulder, there is no way it can move afterwards, so that seems extremely promising to me.
I'm posting this here mainly because I did not see such information anywhere else, I hope you will find it useful/interesting, and I would also be happy to hear if anyone else tried that, and whether it is something that works only with me, or also for other people.
I discovered the tourniquet method in the five last acts books and was immediately seduced by it: little materials required, unconsciousness happening quickly, no pain or discomfort, and from what I understand very efficient (it is even a high risk of accidental death in wrestling with choke-holds - or, sadly, with black people being killed during arrests in the US...).
So I tried to practice it, using a long scarf and a wooden spoon, but all I could obtain was this unpleasant swelling sensation in the head, due to insufficient strength of compression, compressing only the veins and not the arteries. Applying more pressure seemed impossible, and very painful, especially because it applied a lot of pressure on my Adam's apple, and I was nowhere near unconsciousness at any point. I don't know if it is my morphology or something else, there seem to be very little space between my Adam's apple and my jaw bone, but the recommendation of applying the rope above the Adam's apple was not for me. I was very disappointed and frustrated.
But yesterday I tried something else: put my scarf below my Adam's apple. And suddenly everything worked like a charm ! I was able to apply a lot of pressure, without feeling any discomfort (breathing without problem, no pain anywhere). When applying this amount of pressure, in a couple of seconds I felt an intense dizziness growing in me, with no swelling of the head at all. So I'm pretty sure I was able to cut the oxygen supply to my brain, and if I had continued, I would have passed out (I passed out a few times in my life, and it felt exactly the same). As I'm totally chicken-hearted, I did not pursue further, but I will definitely practice again this way, try to actually pass out in a way that when I do I let go of the spoon, to see if I can fight the survival instinct (probably the hardest part). But I have the feeling that it could be very quick, a matter of a few seconds. With the wooden spoon blocked by my shoulder, there is no way it can move afterwards, so that seems extremely promising to me.
I'm posting this here mainly because I did not see such information anywhere else, I hope you will find it useful/interesting, and I would also be happy to hear if anyone else tried that, and whether it is something that works only with me, or also for other people.
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Very interesting that you mention below the adams apple. The trick is also to be able to comfortably block the wooden spoon or tourniquet behind the neck/shoulder. This part of the method makes it not too reliable for me. I fear the tourniquet could get undone if one moves around while unconscious.
Well, with the high amount of tension needed, plus maybe the fact that I am using a scarf, so a quite thick "rope", in the end the wooden spoon feels quite securely in place. In fact it was even a bit scary as not so easy to remove even when conscious.
But on the other hand I have no idea how much movement your body can make once unconscious. I suppose only incoherent twitching/convulsing, but not enough to turn over if you are lying, or to have coordinated movement to untie a knot...
The biggest hurdle in my opinion is to overcome this initial phase before you pass out, it's a bit like jumping off a cliff because once it's done there's no turning back. But even that would probably not be a big issue when catching the bus will be my only remaining option. I'm not completely there yet, but I want to be ready when it comes to that.
But on the other hand I have no idea how much movement your body can make once unconscious. I suppose only incoherent twitching/convulsing, but not enough to turn over if you are lying, or to have coordinated movement to untie a knot...
The biggest hurdle in my opinion is to overcome this initial phase before you pass out, it's a bit like jumping off a cliff because once it's done there's no turning back. But even that would probably not be a big issue when catching the bus will be my only remaining option. I'm not completely there yet, but I want to be ready when it comes to that.
Found another reference to below the Adam apple fact : https://scenesdecrimes.blogspot.com/2009/11/la-strangulation.html
