Story Top students use AI

[tasmaka]

Im not a very angry person Im kinda the opposite but recently in my history class I missed a day due to health so I hade to take a make up exam, 3 page essay, so I did.

Spent probably 2 days staying up late making sure all 3 pages supported the thesis I was given to work with, turned it in, I got a zero??

Another guy in my class also missed the exam, did the essay, copied directly from chat gpt, and the professor gave him a mid 90s grade.

My feedback stated that since I didnt use 3 sources from the universities textbook that it was "unacceptable work", but mr.gpt passed from a single prompt…

The top 10 students of my class are known cheaters and use ai, only maybe 4 actually care for academic integrity.

Just to protect myself im not dumb in any sense loll 4.1 gpa , former AP student, if not ap or dual its always honors, but my only downside is ive refused to cheat or use ai for my own gain.

As I am currently a student I think It might mean more or less but Ive heard people claim how grades slowly mean less and less as year go own, be it because of how students dont care, or the teachers dont actually reach them, or about every student now depends on ai to get work done, it isnt just oldheads spewing whatever its ACTUALLY happening.

And I get it if you may not care as its likely you may not be in school, but alot of people I watch cheating constantly and using gpt are medical students, going into law, or becoming future educators.

We are COOKED

 

[sanctionedusage]

half the people in my yr who got into high profile unis proudly lol'd about faking their exam scores

then, everyone was constantly talking about how to bypass the ai checkers for their history/lit papers.

probably the most depressing time as a senior and knowing exactly how college would be at this rate

and they get so defensive about it. "well its just notes!!" yeah and i wonder what you use for the foundation of your essay.. couldnt be your notes!! that you couldn't even use your basic reading comprehension skills for!

 

[Pvnie]

All you had to do was bullshit and put down one of the sources from the textbook onto your sources page or whatever. Did that shit all the time in ap sem and other classes back in highschool.

 

[tasmaka]

All you had to do was bullshit and put down one of the sources from the textbook onto your sources page or whatever. Did that shit all the time in ap sem and other classes back in highschool.

My prof a sweat and actually checks everything 🫩🫩I did that through english and comp but I had 2 just not textbook cuz the instructions just said minimum 2 sources not specified

 

[Karrikin]

LLM's are making my (future) English degree lose value by the day lol. Reminds me of my econ final where this one person who was the known class clown, cheater, etc. passed with a 90 while I sat there with a 58 --granted, I did not study as I should but I was basically the only that stuck to a "no-AI" policy.

Starting to think I should give it a try...

Just to protect myself im not dumb in any sense loll 4.1 gpa , former AP student, if not ap or dual its always honors, but my only downside is ive refused to cheat or use ai for my own gain.

Very commendable effort though, if you can stick to it. There's a growing shortage of people willing to think through problems purely with their own brainpower.

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

Don't let it bring you down. I've seen a lot of people in my computer science major who fully vibe code everything. Don't give me wrong. I use AI, and maybe sometimes more than I should, but I can probably say I've learned a lot through my degree and I haven't cheated my way through it. I know people who have made it to senior level and still vibe code.

For those who don't know, vibecoding is where you repeatedly prompt AI to create something and you never check it. The only checking you do is if it works or not, and if it doesn't work, you try to get ai to fix it without understanding the issue.

Regardless, as I said, don't make yourself feel too bad because there's a shortage of people in this world who can actually critically think and use their brains. If you're one of the few who could use your brain, you're in a better position than most. I can only imagine this slow degradation of critical thinking skills will be detrimental later.

 

[Pluto]

 

[Not_A_Seagull]

All you had to do was bullshit and put down one of the sources from the textbook onto your sources page or whatever. Did that shit all the time in ap sem and other classes back in highschool.

lmfao i did this all the time in hs but like i just made some source up "oh yea i TOTALLY got this from britannica on this exact page!"

 

[noname223]

I quit college two years because it almost made me kill myself. I was hanging by a thread. I couldn't cope with it anymore. I used AI for college. In Germany there are grades from 1,0 to 5,0. I used AI but tried to perfect it myself. It was able to do a decent job in my experience. I regularly received an 1,7. The third best mark.

However, ironically I think without AI just doing it on my onw (before AI chatbots became popular) I had the same marks. Or even better ones. I think i you just copy paste it there will be issues and it can be really flawed. But it might dependent on your subject. I wrote one pretty strong paper and I noticed when doing the research with AI if I Just take the sources AI gives me the paper will be really medicore. I think using google scholars is way better reading the sources on your own. Even though, the feedback on a written text can be really valuable. But you need some basic knowledge about the topic in order to differentiate between true fact and hallucinations.

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

I quit college two years because it almost made me kill myself. I was hanging by a thread. I couldn't cope with it anymore. I used AI for college. In Germany there are grades from 1,0 to 5,0. I used AI but tried to perfect it myself. It was able to do a decent job in my experience. I regularly received an 1,7. The third best mark.

However, ironically I think without AI just doing it on my onw (before AI chatbots became popular) I had the same marks. Or even better ones. I think i you just copy paste it there will be issues and it can be really flawed. But it might dependent on your subject. I wrote one pretty strong paper and I noticed when doing the research with AI if I Just take the sources AI gives me the paper will be really medicore. I think using google scholars is way better reading the sources on your own. Even though, the feedback on a written text can be really valuable. But you need some basic knowledge about the topic in order to differentiate between true fact and hallucinations.

Yeah I think one of the issues with AI is that many people DON'T get the foundational knowledge needed to do it on their own and because AI makes it so easy, there's no incentive to until it harms you. I've done this before but only minimally and stopped when it hurt me and my performance. I can only speak for my major, which is Comp Sci, but I have seen so many people copy and paste code, even though you can get the AI to explain it line-by-line. Even ChatGPT, which isn't very good at coding, but usually good enough, can explain code fairly well. People just don't do that and will regret it later when they can't do basic tasks without AI assistance.

Actually, I just remembered I have a brief anecdote to share. I know a team in Capstone last semester completely vibe coded their project, didn't even create the necessary parts to test it. Fast forward a few weeks before the capstone is due, and this was for a fire department btw, they went to the professor for help. He asked where their database was, they didn't have one. They had to come clean that they completely used AI, and they failed. Now, a team this semester in my class is actually tasked with cleaning up their mess and giving this municipality a proper web presence.

 

[violetforever]

i needed to read this right now oh my god. i was just thinking about this while writing my 4 page essay! ive spent way longer on it than i should because my brain wont focus or think nowadays from stress/depression i guess. i could usually get this done in about 2 days but im deteriorating now. its fucking late too so i wont even get more than an F grade for it. its basically useless to write but yeah i still wrote it all myself, no AI. i mean its my fault for having it overdue when it was worth a bunch of my grade and now my grades dropped from an A to C. i cant help but think of AI though. why am i trying when other people just use AI and AI will eventually take over anyway? i dont even feel "superior" or "moral" for actually doing honest work and making an effort. my teacher doesnt really like me now either so he wont care much or give me academic validation ugh. school is becoming unenjoyable now that my classes for my major ended this semester :c

 

[Apathy79]

It makes no sense to still prescribe essays or assignments today that are graded. I think that will be completely obsolete within a few years. The only way for grades to ever mean anything to anyone anymore is through exams without devices.

 

[buriedinmyhead]

It pisses me off so much!! I was taking a course last semester that I was struggling through, and had to watch as other people used ai for classwork... I had to actually work to earn the B I got, whereas other people just screwed around (though the exam wasn't something you can cheat on, so maybe they did poorly on that).

 

[BradGuy123]

I'm really worried about AI taking a lot of jobs and causing mass unemployment including my industry. I've literally lost sleep over this. That is why I joined this forum - to research methods in case I have to CTB if I become unemployable.

As far as the OP goes, I can see a lot of students cheating and using AI to do their coursework. But they aren't learning the concepts. They are cheating themselves and there will come a time (perhaps on an in person test) where they can't use AI and they will be in big trouble.

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

I'm really worried about AI taking a lot of jobs and causing mass unemployment including my industry. I've literally lost sleep over this. That is why I joined this forum - to research methods in case I have to CTB if I become unemployable.

As far as the OP goes, I can see a lot of students cheating and using AI to do their coursework. But they aren't learning the concepts. They are cheating themselves and there will come a time (perhaps on an in person test) where they can't use AI and they will be in big trouble.

What industry are you in?

 

[WrathfulGloom32]

Capitalism is so trash. I don't know what system could replace it, maybe wipe out 99.99998% of humanity and leave a couple of people farming until we go extinct, that's a good system imho.

Life as we made it is so pointless, everyone is an individualist at heart.

 

[majnun]

um... yes I do. It does help me check for plagiarism and flag what might come off as AI. As someone who is very creatively inclined, I look down upon the usage of AI generated posters, imagery, etc. I absolutely cannot stand generative AI. But AI that's just for plagiarism checks? Perfectly fine imo. But to write whole stories with it, make art with it - that is where I draw the line. You must never outsource your creativity to something that is just linear regression on steroids.

 

[BradGuy123]

What industry are you in?

I'm paranoid about revealing info about myself here like what I do for work and where I live. I have a white collar job. I've seen demos of AI being used to do a variety of different types of jobs. It's scary stuff. These people pushing for widespread use of this at their companies don't care about the number of jobs this will displace.

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

I'm paranoid about revealing info about myself here like what I do for work and where I live. I have a white collar job. I've seen demos of AI being used to do a variety of different types of jobs. It's scary stuff. These people pushing for widespread use of this at their companies don't care about the number of jobs this will displace.

I understand, no worries. AI is certainly scary. Honestly the scarier part to me is the lack of regulation regarding it. The "move fast and break things" energy coming from tech leaders does often ignore the very real people who's livelihood is on the line.

That being said, despite the hype, most companies are finding that AI produces "hallucinations" that require human oversight. So the job might change, but the need for humans to intervene and fix these errors is a major bottleneck.